bnwhitaker Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 I'd love to hear your experience if you've used it! Or if you've heard about it and decided against it, your why? Quote
Not_a_Number Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 I haven't, but you've now led me on a rabbit trail 😄. I looked up what this is and am intrigued. I'm curious how this would look like in practice... I think I do some of this automatically, since I tend to generalize naturally, and I communicate the generalizations to my kids. (And they are very logical as well.) But how would one do this in a structured way? 1 Quote
PeterPan Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 My ds has SLDs, and it's pretty popular right now to blend SWI with OG type instruction. So you end up with products like spell-links https://learningbydesign.com/ or Morpheme Magic https://morphememagic.com/ I think it makes a lot of sense as a methodology when you're at the roots/morphemes stage of spelling but is maybe less efficient in the earlier stages when something prefab might do as well. In a way it's what SWR, WRTR, etc. have been doing for years. (not exactly, but sort of) https://www.teachercreatedmaterials.com/campaign/vocabulary/ I got workbooks from this series, because I wanted something easier to implement. Rasinski also blends SWI methodology into his fluency workbook series. I particularly like his poetry workbooks. https://www.teachercreatedmaterials.com/parents/p/poems-for-building-reading-skills-level-4/50238/ I'm not really in a position to make anything more free form happen, but that's great if you can. 2 Quote
kirstenhill Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 I'm really curious about SWI because I'm trained in OG but didn't take the level of training that looks much morphology. I really love that SWI is coming from linguistics as a field of study. That being said I don't know much about it yet. I feel like this has the feel of implementing SWi in a homeschool curriculum, but I don't know enough to know if this is actually a faithful representation : https://www.rootedinlanguage.com/instructional-materials/word-study-packet. 4 Quote
Terabith Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 It's all the rage on the dyslexia groups I'm on, but I wasn't able to find anyone trained in SWI to help my kid. I think it would have been really good for her, but she's almost 16, and she is DONE with remediation. (I don't mean she doesn't have stuff that could use remediation; it's just that there is no more will for it. She finished Wilson. I think she would really benefit from SWI, but....not available and I don't think she has the patience for it.) 1 Quote
Not_a_Number Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 Well, this thread inspired me to tell DD5 about WHY we add an s to a word and how that helps us read it. We were already working on adding s's, but I suddenly realized that I never talked about what the point of this was grammatically. Can someone summarize the idea of this approach for me by any chance? We've so far used phonics with both the kids, and I do think phonics is important... but I'm intrigued. Quote
kirstenhill Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Terabith said: It's all the rage on the dyslexia groups I'm on, but I wasn't able to find anyone trained in SWI to help my kid. I think it would have been really good for her, but she's almost 16, and she is DONE with remediation. (I don't mean she doesn't have stuff that could use remediation; it's just that there is no more will for it. She finished Wilson. I think she would really benefit from SWI, but....not available and I don't think she has the patience for it.) Bunny trail for a minute...would you mind sharing what dyslexia groups you have found helpful? I'm in a couple groups on FB for OG practitioners that I joined after I took OG training, but both groups are heavily populated with classroom teachers and school interventionists, and their needs are so different from mine just working with one kid in a homeschool setting. 1 Quote
Terabith Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, kirstenhill said: Bunny trail for a minute...would you mind sharing what dyslexia groups you have found helpful? I'm in a couple groups on FB for OG practitioners that I joined after I took OG training, but both groups are heavily populated with classroom teachers and school interventionists, and their needs are so different from mine just working with one kid in a homeschool setting. I'm on a facebook group - Dyslexia support for parents of dyslexic children. I'm also on a group called Parents of Twice Exceptional Children. I wouldn't say they've been extraordinarily helpful, but my kid is older and also not a classic dyslexic. Her actual diagnosis is dysgraphia. She had trouble learning to read but has read above grade level since about age 8, but even after the full 12 volume Wilson program, she spells at maybe a third grade level (at almost 16). She's fine with handwriting, and she composes well, but spelling and written conventions are very, very challenging. I think her real issues are difficulty with visual memory and working memory, but vision therapy was a disaster. 2 Quote
bnwhitaker Posted April 14, 2021 Author Posted April 14, 2021 On 4/11/2021 at 7:19 PM, PeterPan said: My ds has SLDs, and it's pretty popular right now to blend SWI with OG type instruction. So you end up with products like spell-links https://learningbydesign.com/ or Morpheme Magic https://morphememagic.com/ I think it makes a lot of sense as a methodology when you're at the roots/morphemes stage of spelling but is maybe less efficient in the earlier stages when something prefab might do as well. In a way it's what SWR, WRTR, etc. have been doing for years. (not exactly, but sort of) https://www.teachercreatedmaterials.com/campaign/vocabulary/ I got workbooks from this series, because I wanted something easier to implement. Rasinski also blends SWI methodology into his fluency workbook series. I particularly like his poetry workbooks. https://www.teachercreatedmaterials.com/parents/p/poems-for-building-reading-skills-level-4/50238/ I'm not really in a position to make anything more free form happen, but that's great if you can. Thanks for the links! I loved morphememagic! On 4/11/2021 at 7:34 PM, kirstenhill said: I'm really curious about SWI because I'm trained in OG but didn't take the level of training that looks much morphology. I really love that SWI is coming from linguistics as a field of study. That being said I don't know much about it yet. I feel like this has the feel of implementing SWi in a homeschool curriculum, but I don't know enough to know if this is actually a faithful representation : https://www.rootedinlanguage.com/instructional-materials/word-study-packet. Thanks for the link! 2 hours ago, kirstenhill said: Bunny trail for a minute...would you mind sharing what dyslexia groups you have found helpful? I'm in a couple groups on FB for OG practitioners that I joined after I took OG training, but both groups are heavily populated with classroom teachers and school interventionists, and their needs are so different from mine just working with one kid in a homeschool setting. I had this same questions as I read. Glad to hear the answer! 1 Quote
Clarita Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/11/2021 at 6:59 PM, Not_a_Number said: I'm curious how this would look like in practice... I think I do some of this automatically, since I tend to generalize naturally, and I communicate the generalizations to my kids. (And they are very logical as well.) But how would one do this in a structured way? Lower School Structured Word Inquiry | The Nueva School This is a video of some teachers teaching this to younger students. Towards the end of the video is a teacher doing a lesson with preschool or kindergarteners which I thought was super interesting since I always thought of this method as something to do after they have a solid grasp of how to read. 1 Quote
Clarita Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 I did look into it. (I was a whole word, 3 cue reading graduate so had to do my research to teach my kids) I decided not to start with structured word inquiry with my beginning reader, because it seemed like you would have to go through a lot of learning before you could read anything by yourself. I figured I would revisit this method when I was ready to teach spelling. 1 Quote
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