caffeineandbooks Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I'm moonlighting on this board - although I have an afterschooler in 8th, I'm not quite in the HS category yet, but I'm hoping y'all will have a better idea of what programs continue to be good through the high school years, rather than just seeming good in middle school. I'm trying to decide what to do after Singapore for a kid going into 6th and a kid going into 9th - obviously one a little accelerated and one a couple years behind. I'm not in the US, and math in my country is usually integrated - so each year will have a little algebra, a little geometry, etc rather than separating each strand out into its own year. I don't want to just do Singapore Dimensions for two years and then end up tossing them into one of the standard programs here anyway - if I can't find something likely to take them right through to year 12, I'd rather make the switch now when the stakes are a little lower. To borrow a phrase from another boardie, my accelerated kid will "happily have math when served it for lunch, but doesn't want it for snacks", so I don't think AOPS is the right path (and definitely not for the afterschooler). My own math education was distinctly procedural, and I have appreciated the Singapore Home Instructor Guide for its clear explanations of how to teach the "why" of the concepts. I took a humanities track at college, so I expect to lean on a teacher book more as they get into the upper levels. There is a "Singapore" type book available here called "New Syllabus Mathematics" (published by Shinglee I think?) which has five years' worth of work and claims to include a teacher resource book, though I can't see samples online and am reluctant to fork out $175 for a single year sight unseen! What would you do - or avoid! - in my shoes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 IIRC, there were people on these boards using the new syllabus Singapore series awhile back so if you search smart enough, maybe you can find more. There are other integrated options out there... but American schools that use an "integrated" approach usually just do a three year pre-algebra, algebra I and geometry approach, not a long term integrated math sequence. Plus, I don't know of anyone providing teacher support for in depth integrated the way that say, Nicole the Math Lady does for Saxon or Derek Owens does or in a full class style thing like they have here at WTMA and other providers. I know of a couple of providers who have integrated math, but not at the upper levels and not places with amazing math reputations. If anyone knows of such a thing, please share, but I think you're going to be out of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 It seems to me Derek Owens is the go to for kids wanting rigor but not AoPS. Foerster textbooks could be another option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal_Bear Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Roadrunner said: It seems to me Derek Owens is the go to for kids wanting rigor but not AoPS. Foerster textbooks could be another option. If Foerster, possibly Math Without Borders teaching videos and worked solutions might be enough support? https://mathwithoutborders.com/ Integrated doesn't exist AFAIK probably because IM was never adopted by homeschoolers. A basdic demand = supply or in this case a lack of demand. Edited February 8, 2021 by calbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8filltheheart Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Foersters is not spiral. I haven't seen Dimensions, but MiF Courses 1 and 2 are also not spiral. I have not seen DO's alg course, but his precal course is also not spiral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_a_Number Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, caffeineandbooks said: To borrow a phrase from another boardie, my accelerated kid will "happily have math when served it for lunch, but doesn't want it for snacks", so I don't think AOPS is the right path (and definitely not for the afterschooler). For the record, I don't think most kids who do AoPS love math 🙂 . So it could be worth a try -- I wouldn't discount it immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 If you want to try Shing Lee (I used their version of primary maths after getting one level by accident, and my kid preferred the more "Singapore" flavor and animal illustrations to the Mitchell Cavendish Americanized one), see if you can find someone stationed in Singapore who can ship it to you. The cost is MUCH less that way, at least for student books (I didn't order a teacher's guide). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, 8filltheheart said: Foersters is not spiral. I haven't seen Dimensions, but MiF Courses 1 and 2 are also not spiral. I have not seen DO's alg course, but his precal course is also not spiral. You are right. I think Saxon is the only spiral one I have ever come across. And Integrated math is a post Common Core phenomenon. It will be hard to find quality textbooks that are integrated. Hmmmm. Edited February 8, 2021 by Roadrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I'm a little confused... Derek Owens, Math Without Borders, and Foersters are all in the traditional American algebra-geometry-algebra ii-pre-calc sequence. I thought the OP specifically wanted something that was not in that sequence? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Farrar said: I'm a little confused... Derek Owens, Math Without Borders, and Foersters are all in the traditional American algebra-geometry-algebra ii-pre-calc sequence. I thought the OP specifically wanted something that was not in that sequence? You are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlily Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Saxon Math fits your criteria. It's a tough program and people seem to either love it or hate it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 You might take a look at MEP. The lower grades are much more spiral than the upper grades, but it does go all the way to A level further maths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, stripe said: You might take a look at MEP. The lower grades are much more spiral than the upper grades, but it does go all the way to A level further maths. I was going to post this too! This has a lot of teacher help as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyPenn Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Shormann Math is integrated. Algebra 1 is combined with geometry, as is Algebra 2. When algebra 1 is completed, the student will receive 1 credit in algebra and 1/2 geometry credit. Same in algebra 2. You have a year and a half to do each course, or do the honors option and complete them faster . https://diveintomath.com/shormann/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyPenn Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I should also add that Dr. Shormann uses Saxon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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