acyrologia

[gardenmom5]

 

reminds me of the time one of the narcissists in my life (who is always disdainful of English Majors as having no value) - was using "mute" instead of "moot" . . . 

or my favorite (someone else), which still gives me a chuckle - used ancestor when they should have used descendent.  

[Miss Tick]

My mil used to call Abercrombie & Fitch, Anaconda & Finch. 😂

In 3rd grade I taught my dd the internet joke, "Sometimes I like to use big words that I don't understand because it makes me seem more photosynthesis." Her dad still laughs about it.

[klmama]

Thanks for the laugh!  

[Lecka]

I witnessed some people be really rude to someone because he mispronounced "pseudo."  It was really awkward and I thought they were overly rude about it.  

I thought it was an honest mistake and not something to be like -- "we all know how to say this word and you don't, what a loser."  

Edited January 29, 2021 by Lecka

[gardenmom5]

1 hour ago, Lecka said:

I witnessed some people be really rude to someone because he mispronounced "pseudo."  It was really awkward and I thought they were overly rude about it.  

I thought it was an honest mistake and not something to be like -- "we all know how to say this word and you don't, what a loser."  

That is sad - and says more about those who'd make fun of someone for mispronouncing something.  Did you speak up?

If you've only learned the word from reading as opposed to hearing, mispronunciation is more likely.

there are those who use "big words" to try and sound impressive - and indirectly (intentionally) demean those to whom they are speaking.  e.g. as mentioned, my brother holds english majors in contempt, he thinks it's a worthless degree (he was married to his second wife when she got one).  So, I did eventually point out his (repeated) misuse of (specific) words.  It was a "come to Jesus" moment  - if you're going to mock english majors for being "dumb", the least you can do is to use English PROPERLY!

I did just stare in shock (didn't say anything) as I was listening to my son's high school *english teacher* misuse what I consider fairly basic words.  (It also explained why she previously accused him of plagiarism.) 

[4atHome]

I consistently forget pronunciations for certain words:( Temporal is one of them.  I have to stop and think about the word before I say it.  It is so frustrating.  I can't think of others right now... but they are repeat offenders.

[Drama Llama]

3 hours ago, gardenmom5 said:

That is sad - and says more about those who'd make fun of someone for mispronouncing something.  Did you speak up?

If you've only learned the word from reading as opposed to hearing, mispronunciation is more likely.

there are those who use "big words" to try and sound impressive - and indirectly (intentionally) demean those to whom they are speaking.  e.g. as mentioned, my brother holds english majors in contempt, he thinks it's a worthless degree (he was married to his second wife when she got one).  So, I did eventually point out his (repeated) misuse of (specific) words.  It was a "come to Jesus" moment  - if you're going to mock english majors for being "dumb", the least you can do is to use English PROPERLY!

I did just stare in shock (didn't say anything) as I was listening to my son's high school *english teacher* misuse what I consider fairly basic words.  (It also explained why she previously accused him of plagiarism.) 

I'm sure there are people like this.  But there are also many people for whom problems with word retrieval are a symptom of a language disorder or other neurological problem.  I have pretty frequent word retrieval problems, and work with kids with developmental disabilities for whom this is a common problem.  I don't see how making fun of people for misusing words is different from making fun of people for mispronouncing them.  

[marbel]

1 hour ago, 4atHome said:

I consistently forget pronunciations for certain words:( Temporal is one of them.  I have to stop and think about the word before I say it.  It is so frustrating.  I can't think of others right now... but they are repeat offenders.

This happens to me too. I remember being so embarrassed when I mispronounced "vehemently" once - I was using it correctly - and someone mocked me about it. 

And of course there are the words people read but don't hear, so innocently mispronounce them. Happens all the time to one of my kids - who has a great vocabulary and great reading comprehension despite LDs and a lack of understanding of phonics (I tried). 

I'm just over folks who need to be the smartest person in the room and point out others' minor and inconsequential errors. There seem to be more and more of them in my world all the time. 

[Creekside5]

Is “miner” spelled wrong?? Shouldn’t it be “minor”.  Because of the topic, it struck me as funny. 

[gardenmom5]

34 minutes ago, BaseballandHockey said:

I'm sure there are people like this.  But there are also many people for whom problems with word retrieval are a symptom of a language disorder  

I have a word retrieval problem.    I've always considered it as being part of my ASD/ADD.

Was there something you were wanting to say, but preferred to beat around the bush instead?   I can have a hard time picking up on those things - that's also part of my ASD.

 

[Drama Llama]

Just now, gardenmom5 said:

I have a word retrieval problem.    I've always considered it as being part of my ASD/ADD.

Was there something you were wanting to say, but preferred to beat around the bush instead?   I can have a hard time picking up on those things - that's also part of my ASD.

 

That what you posted was making fun of people with language disabilities and really hurtful.  

Maybe pulling up a related word isn’t how your ASD presents but it is how it presents for lots of people.  

[Amy Gen]

My kid mispronounced denouement when she was presenting at a graduate conference. I realized she had only encountered it reading and never heard it used. No one except for me (later) pointed it out to her. All of the lovely people in the room were so generous with their appreciation and praise. 
 

I think I’ve been really hard hit with word retrieval during and post chemo because I already had learning disabilities and my limited understanding is that the chemo hit the part of my brain that I used to compensate for them. 
 

I often say a completely bizarre substitution without noticing like, “Please go get your clean clothes out of the freezer.”

I definitely substitute words that sound a little similar but mean completely different things. When I do that, I know it is wrong at least, and can ask, “What is the word I’m trying to say?”

Sometimes I only remember the first part of a word and I keep repeating it, hoping that will trigger memory of the rest. 
 

The very worst is when I forget the word, or sometimes a whole thought stream, and there is just nothing there to search or give me a hint. I feel like a person in a show who has a blackout. I’m thinking and searching and there is only void. 
 

I’m hopeful that it is slowly getting better, though, and someday, I’ll go back to being just a learning disabled person. 
 

The aunt I was named after has pretty advanced dementia. She is such a role model for me because she just laughs about it and stays so good natured about everything. One interesting thing is that in conversation, she won’t have the words that she wants to say, so she will break out into a hymn that she memorized as a child. The hymn will be exactly appropriate to the topic of the conversation. It is just that the part of the brain where the music is stored is the part least damaged. 
 

I’m not nearly as good natured. When my kids laugh at mistakes, which they love to do, I go into my room and slam the door. I can tell that I am not likely to be a fun old person. LOL. 

[kbutton]

1 hour ago, BaseballandHockey said:

I don't see how making fun of people for misusing words is different from making fun of people for mispronouncing them.  

The way I read this, the meme specifically states that it's about people who are trying to sound more sophisticated as a point of pride. 

I have word retrieval issues while also appreciating specialized vocabulary (the word retrieval issues start in my family at about age 30, like clockwork--name retrieval is the first place it shows up, and it's downhill from there). I have 2 kids with language issues, including one with ASD/expressive language issues and one with dyslexia. My extended family jokes that our conversations are like a game of Taboo sometimes. I had to fix sound alike words that I accidentally substituted while typing this response! (Are for our!)

Both of my kids would find this funny, and I think it's hilarious. Perhaps that's because we do seem to get credit for being smart when we're not around brilliant people who don't understand 2e problems. I can imagine being discouraged if it's just one more thing people dog pile on. We tend to get "your so smart from one crowd" and the side eye from the other crowd.

People don't get nearly so touchy about being bad at certain math things--they tell on themselves. Lots of people joke about how bad they are at balancing a checkbook, for instance.

I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their triggers, but I do think the meme was pretty specific.

ETA: Ha, I also used the wrong your. 

Edited January 30, 2021 by kbutton

[ktgrok]

On a lighter note, anyone else thinking of the Friends episode where Joey says "moo point" instead of "moot" point? 

That may be my favorite moment from Friends. 

 

Edited January 30, 2021 by ktgrok

[Forget-Me-Not]

59 minutes ago, Amy Gen said:

My kid mispronounced denouement when she was presenting at a graduate conference. I realized she had only encountered it reading and never heard it used. No one except for me (later) pointed it out to her. All of the lovely people in the room were so generous with their appreciation and praise. 
 

 

I just realized *I* have only encountered it reading and googled to see if I was pronouncing it correctly in my head.  I was not!  I have encountered the same thing frequently with my youngest who is reading far, far beyond his grade level.  Once in a while he throws out a word and I have to think about it in context or even ask him to spell it because he's pronouncing it wrong but using it otherwise correctly.  

Reddit has a subreddit called BoneAppleTea that highlights these sort of word mis-replacements.  But it gets snarky, so be forewarned if you head that way.  

[klmama]

3 hours ago, SRoss5 said:

Is “miner” spelled wrong?? Shouldn’t it be “minor”.  Because of the topic, it struck me as funny. 

Yes.  There are a number of purposely incorrect words, but if you read it through quickly it's super easy to miss them; our brains often replace the wrong words we see with the "correct" version.  If you go back and read it all very slowly, you'll spot others.