PeterPan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Ds had been asking for the thief/lying version of monopoly (I forget what it's called) and I vetoed it. Now I'm noticing children's literature explores these ideas of lying, pranks, doing what's wrong, and it's kind of helpful. We haven't really had a common language for this. https://www.amazon.com/Here-Comes-Trouble-Kate-Hattemer/dp/1524718467/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=here+comes+trouble&qid=1610260451&sr=8-6 Here Comes Trouble by Kate Hattemer https://www.amazon.com/Camp-Shady-Crook-Gjertsen-Malone/dp/1534422277/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=camp+shady+crook&qid=1610260383&sr=8-1 Camp Shady Crook (emphasis on CROOK, haha) by Malone. He's listening to this right now. So what will be next? Any suggestions? This Camp Shady Crook seems very tongue in cheek. I don't know if he's getting warped or developing social perception. I'm HOPING it's the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Would Brer Rabbit type books be applicable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Did you ever see that episode of Red Dwarf where Lister is trying to teach Kryten to lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terabith Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, Rosie_0801 said: Did you ever see that episode of Red Dwarf where Lister is trying to teach Kryten to lie? Oh, that would be perfect!!! Some of the old Gordon Korman books might be good for exploring the idea of under the table shady stuff. No Coins Please and Who Is Bugs Potter? come to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lecka Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) A big plot of every Slappy book in Goosebumps is: Slappy does things and the kids get blamed for something they didn’t do. Slappy is a dummy who comes to life, and he will do things like make a big mess. Then the kids tell the parents “Slappy did it,” but he has gone limp, and the parents don’t believe the kids. This has been very interesting and hard-to-understand for my son. It definitely gives an opportunity to talk about what one person knows, but another person doesn’t know. I think it has helped give him some language around perspective taking that way, and lying. For my son — it’s easier that there is the same character and a similar plot in a lot of books, plus Slappy was in the recent Goosebumps movie with Jack Black and looked really cool in it. They are definitely books to preview, though! Edited January 10, 2021 by Lecka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lecka Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Since I know you have these books — there is a section on perspective taking in Book 2 of the Mindwings Autism series. Page 14.14 and page 14.15 have a visual for two different characters. They have a thought bubble for what is “thought” and a talking bubble for what is “said.” My son has a hard time with — someone saying something that doesn’t represent what they are thinking. But he is better at the language/understanding of “the mom said this, but the son knows that really happened.” It’s helped with his understanding of the words “think” and “know.” I can say “the mom believes this happened, but the son knows that happened.” And use some of the “mental state” words in a meaningful context. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lecka Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 My husband just said, there are a lot of times where Slappy says something like “thanks a lot,” but he is being sarcastic. Almost any time something is sarcastic, my son won’t know. But it’s so over-the-top and we already know Slappy is sarcastic, so he has a lot better chance of realizing Slappy is sarcastic. And can talk about what it means to be sarcastic. My son is better at noticing really blatant, oblivious sarcasm in Goosebumps since he started liking them, but it’s still hit or miss. But at least he knows what it is at all! He did not before. No way to say “he is saying thank you, but he doesn’t mean thank you,” that my son could understand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I have a friend with a son (who is now grown) with autism, and when he was a teen they used to watch Survivor together. They would look at the end first to see who was voted out, and then see how things led up to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 3:11 AM, Rosie_0801 said: Did you ever see that episode of Red Dwarf where Lister is trying to teach Kryten to lie? No, but that's a riot!! I will definitely have to look for it. You're right, that's exactly the kind of stuff. On 1/10/2021 at 12:49 PM, EKS said: I have a friend with a son (who is now grown) with autism, and when he was a teen they used to watch Survivor together. They would look at the end first to see who was voted out, and then see how things led up to it. That's smart!! You're right, that show is just FILLED with dynamics, hmm. And we really like to have tv series we watch together. On 1/10/2021 at 4:04 AM, Terabith said: Oh, that would be perfect!!! Some of the old Gordon Korman books might be good for exploring the idea of under the table shady stuff. No Coins Please and Who Is Bugs Potter? come to mind. That name sounds familiar, must look them up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 Now to see if the larger series is available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) On 1/10/2021 at 4:04 AM, Terabith said: Oh, that would be perfect!!! Some of the old Gordon Korman books might be good for exploring the idea of under the table shady stuff. No Coins Please and Who Is Bugs Potter? come to mind. Oh now I know. I had just seen his name in looking at books last night. He has a new book War Stories. I was rabbit trailing these other books. I'll go look for the two you mentioned. He has 40+ books on BARD! None of the ones you listed, but still quite a few. If he likes them, jackpot! Edited January 11, 2021 by PeterPan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, PeterPan said: Now to see if the larger series is available Um. Not if echolalia is a problem... It's not a show with a G rating, let's just say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terabith Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Rosie_0801 said: Um. Not if echolalia is a problem... It's not a show with a G rating, let's just say... True. (But it's absolutely hilarious, if your kid gets situational language and such.) We sing the theme song every time it's cold outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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