Nature-throid recall!!! Any opinions on Armour vs. NP Thyroid?

[PeterPan]

I wondered why I was feeling much sluggish, not quite my usual vavoom self, and turns out the Nature-throid had issues with potency and has been recalled!!! So the pharmacist is saying my alternatives are NP Thyroid and Armour. I used to take Armour years ago. I liked the Nature-throid for the no junk fillers. Anyone have a preference between these options? I'm definitely getting the new med filled PRONTO.

[eagleynne]

I take NP Thyroid and I've never had issues with it. My endocrinology office doesn't like to use Armour because the current formulation uses fillers that make it hard for some people to absorb.

[Soror]

Well, that sucks. Naturethroid has worked the best for me. I'll go get new, I don't want to switch they gave me WP once when there was a Naturethroid shortage and it was a huge difference for me. I've had some trouble with sleep but my schedule was messed in July so I attributed it to that. There have been a few other things that I thought was due to this and that but I'll be interested to see how I feel when I get it changed back. I just did labs last week, we'll see what they show. 

[Jean in Newcastle]

I prefer NP Thyroid. 

[Jean in Newcastle]

What I was told on the Nature Throid was that the potency was stronger than usual.  I just kept taking it and was fine. 

[Soror]

20 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said:

What I was told on the Nature Throid was that the potency was stronger than usual.  I just kept taking it and was fine. 

https://www.drugs.com/fda-alerts/2189-4139.html

The way I read this is that it is the opposite, it is not as strong as listed. 

[Jean in Newcastle]

2 minutes ago, soror said:

https://www.drugs.com/fda-alerts/2189-4139.html

The way I read this is that it is the opposite, it is not as strong as listed. 

What I got was a letter from my medical insurance company.  Perhaps it was a different alert? 

[PeterPan]

5 hours ago, eagleynne said:

I take NP Thyroid and I've never had issues with it. My endocrinology office doesn't like to use Armour because the current formulation uses fillers that make it hard for some people to absorb.

Yes, I thought I was reacting to the fillers before when I was on armour. Naturethroid had been completely fine. Guess I'll have to hope NP Thyroid is good for me.

4 hours ago, Jean in Newcastle said:

What I was told on the Nature Throid was that the potency was stronger than usual.  I just kept taking it and was fine. 

No, it's sub potent. That's what the Walgreens paper said and what that recall statement says. 

5 hours ago, soror said:

WP once when there was a Naturethroid shortage and it was a huge difference for me. I've had some trouble with sleep but my schedule was messed in July so I attributed it to that.

Oh dear. Well I won't let it go long. The pharmacist suggested if I was having a big reaction to a minor change that maybe I needed to run my labs again. I stopped taking kelp/iodine sources a year ago (except for the RDA) to shift completely over to thyroid meds. I had assumed we had it stabilized, so I'm not sure what part of my symptoms are maybe more fallout from that (needing a higher overall dose) vs. what is the sub potent meds. I guess I could run the labs to baseline before I begin the new med (same dose). I can't fathom my doc being willing to *increase* my dose with a new med. Seems like he'd slide me to the new med, same dose, and run the labs in 6 weeks and adjust at that time. Besides, it takes a long time for your TSH to go up when your dose is too low. Months. 

Wow, it just seems like West Throid and Nature Throid shouldn't have been so different. I don't know. I guess I'll just eat a lot of salad and hope for the best.

[PeterPan]

5 hours ago, Jean in Newcastle said:

I prefer NP Thyroid. 

Oh that's interesting. Why?

[PeterPan]

5 hours ago, soror said:

Naturethroid has worked the best for me. I'll go get new,

The pharmacy told me it's all recalled, every drop. So there's no more naturethroid to get it filled. I asked him what other ndt products he had, so that's what I'll be choosing from. Sounds like I'll give NP Throid a try. I'll call the doc tomorrow and get the new scrip. 

[Jean in Newcastle]

2 minutes ago, PeterPan said:

Oh that's interesting. Why?

I feel better on it. It’s hard to tell but it seemed more comparable to Nature Throid. 
 

I have had it compounded before at a compound pharmacy when there was a problem. But I am pretty sure that it was more expensive that way. (It was a long time ago so I don’t remember clearly. ). 

[Soror]

7 hours ago, PeterPan said:

The pharmacy told me it's all recalled, every drop. So there's no more naturethroid to get it filled. I asked him what other ndt products he had, so that's what I'll be choosing from. Sounds like I'll give NP Throid a try. I'll call the doc tomorrow and get the new scrip. 

Nice, I'll call my pharmacy today and see what they say and what they have. I know I don't want WP since it didn't work well for me before. I've heard not so great things about Armour when they reformulated a few years back. I got a call from my dr's office while I was out about the shortage, they prescribe it in house, not sure what they are planning to do.

[Soror]

I had the pharmacy order me NP Thyroid, should be here tomorrow. They had Armour and WP in stock but since I know WP doesn't work well for me and know too many adversely affected when Armour changed formulations I picked the NP, fingers crossed it works well for me.

[melmichigan]

Nature-thyroid is the new recall for sub potency.  NP thyroid was recalled in May for super potency of T3.

Edited September 16, 2020 by melmichigan

[PeterPan]

1 minute ago, melmichigan said:

Nature-thyroid is the new recall for sub potency.  NP thyroid was recalled in May for super potency of T3.

Oh please, smack me in the head now. So is it reasonable to assume that if the pharmacy still has it then the stuff they're selling me is ok?

[Jean in Newcastle]

11 minutes ago, melmichigan said:

Nature-thyroid is the new recall for sub potency.  NP thyroid was recalled in May for super potency of T3.

Thanks.  This must have been my confusion.  I must have been on the NP thyroid and gotten the letter about that.  (My pharmacy tends to shift me from one to another at times so I'm not always sure.)

[PeterPan]

Ok, I'm excited!! I started the new NP Thyroid last night, and it's NOTICEABLY better. I'm back to feeling the way I should feel. My heartbeat is stronger (not faster, stronger), my oxygen is up, mood brighter, and my VAVOOM is back. So much better, oh my. My I'm going to go clean and I can sprint is back. This is how I SHOULD feel. And just think, this is only the first day! So I should feel even better over the next few weeks as it absorbs fully into my system. Wow.

So I think they're under defining to us what was up with the nature throid, because this is a definite shift. I assumed the assaying at 87% meant the nature throid was evenly low. It could have been something imbalanced, like sucky low on the T3. I don't know. Whatever it was, it's just noticeably different.