And now it's close to home 😢

[busymama7]

My oldest son has been exposed at work.  His wife is pregnant.  We are in the same town and trying to decide what to do.  The situation is that a family member of a co worker (close office contact with my son) is positive.   Possible he has already spread it to his wife.  I suppose unless the co worker doesn't have it? My son did not have contact with the person who is positive just with the family member.  

He doesn't want to go home. He can come here maybe. Two adults in our 40s six kids ages 5-17.  I have asthma which is my main hesitation. I have not seen them for a week but they were here (outside) and had some contact with the rest of the family on Sunday. Not close contact as they stayed outside but some. 

Also my missionary son is coming home six weeks early.  Those two phone calls came 20 min apart.  I'm frazzled.  

[Pawz4me]

I'm sorry. I'd try not to worry too much. From what I understand the contact your DS had would be considered very minimal risk

[busymama7]

So yeah. The risk is low but where does he go? He can't separate at home really as they have others who live there. (2 year old, 20 something, 40 something) and it's a small house. 

If he has it he already spread it to his wife so should he just stick with that risk or come here and possibly give it to us?

Which is higher risk asthma or pregnancy?  Probably asthma right?  She is so stressed out though which is also not good for baby so what is the best course.  

[regentrude]

6 minutes ago, busymama7 said:

Which is higher risk asthma or pregnancy?  Probably asthma right?  She is so stressed out though which is also not good for baby so what is the best course.  

From what I have read, as far as they know, there is no increased risk for pregnant women. There definitely is for asthma

Edited March 18, 2020 by regentrude

[barnwife]

3 minutes ago, regentrude said:

From what I have read, as far as they know, there is no increased risk for pregnant women. There definitely is for asthma

This. And I have been paying attention because *cough* I might know someone who that applies to *cough*. I'd just have him go home and change/shower immediately. 

[RootAnn]

3 minutes ago, barnwife said:

This. And I have been paying attention because *cough* I might know someone who that applies to *cough*. I'd just have him go home and change/shower immediately. 

You should have that coughed looked at. [Attempt at levity]

[regentrude]

5 minutes ago, barnwife said:

This. And I have been paying attention because *cough* I might know someone who that applies to *cough*. I'd just have him go home and change/shower immediately. 

can you *cough* pass on congratulations to the someone?

[barnwife]

1 minute ago, RootAnn said:

You should have that coughed looked at. [Attempt at levity]

Well, I did smile, so the levity must have worked. And the doctor assured me it would go away in about 6 more months. (Is it bad I'm already counting?)

[J-rap]

I'd consider asthma a higher risk.  I was listening to NPR the other day, and they talked about a small study they did in China of women who were pregnant while having CV.  I think it was it was just 10 women, but all 10 of them delivered healthy babies.  

I know it's a hard decision.  Could your ds sleep separately in his own home?  (Even on a mattress on the floor) and avoid close contact for awhile?  Or, could his wife go somewhere for two weeks?

I wouldn't be too worried, while at the same time, I'm sure it would weigh on their minds a lot.

Is the co-worker still going to work?

[kbutton]

1 hour ago, busymama7 said:

Also my missionary son is coming home six weeks early.  

I hope he is going to quarantine for 14 days. Otherwise, what Stella says. An exposure to an exposure is not an exposure if the spouse your son works with is not positive for COVID.

47 minutes ago, StellaM said:

Medical advice here would still be low risk also. 

If he is very worried about his wife, can they sleep separately for a week or so, until it is clear that he does not have it? And avoid hugging etc for a time. 

Use separate bathrooms, or, if they only have one, she uses first, then he does, and then he cleans the bathroom.

Don't share towels, cups, glasses etc. And step up the cleaing of surfaces, including tables, benches, door handles, light switches. 

(I think the above will turn out to be uneccessary, but you never know, and I understand his anxiety to protect his wife. Depending on his household size, I would not move a (Low risk for exposure but still possible) person to a household with more people.

Remember that the evidence re pregnant women is not really conclusive. There may be a correlation between coronavirus and earlier delivery, but there may not be, and unlike the flu of a decade or so back, pregnant women don't seem to be particularly susceptible.

 

[busymama7]

Ok so my son is going to stay at the office tonight.  The co worker had a test done today and will have results tomorrow.  I dont know for sure that he's not at work but I'm almost certain he isn't.  The coworker's family (household member)  got it at his work at the county hospital.  

My other  son isnt coming home until the end of May and he is in the states.  We will quarentine as needed/recommended then.  

[Junie]

I would have your DIL stay with you and your son can stay at his own house.

[Pen]

2 hours ago, busymama7 said:

So yeah. The risk is low but where does he go? He can't separate at home really as they have others who live there. (2 year old, 20 something, 40 something) and it's a small house. 

If he has it he already spread it to his wife so should he just stick with that risk or come here and possibly give it to us?

Which is higher risk asthma or pregnancy?  Probably asthma right?  She is so stressed out though which is also not good for baby so what is the best course.  

 

Asthma.

 

and having him with her may be less stressful for a pregnant mom

[PeterPan]

2 hours ago, regentrude said:

From what I have read, as far as they know, there is no increased risk for pregnant women. There definitely is for asthma

Bingo. NO WAY IN THE WORLD would I intentionally bring in my home someone who has been exposed. I have asthma, well controlled at the moment, but it goes to pneumonia in a flash. You understand you can DIE from this virus if it gets in your lungs with your asthma??? It's viral pneumonia. No antibiotics, just you and your vitamin C and whatever treatment cocktails they've figured out and a respirator. And you have a lot to live for.

Your adult son needs to figure out his plan, but it's no where near you. Sorry. He can go to a hotel or sleep in a separate room from his wife. He can call the county board of health or CDC or his doctor and ask what to do. But he shouldn't be near you.

[PeterPan]

31 minutes ago, Junie said:

I would have your DIL stay with you

Has she already been exposed by the ds, her dh? If so, then no she can't come either. It's unfortunate. 

They're going to need to talk with their doctors and let the doctors give recommendations.

[busymama7]

They did talk to Drs. She called her obgyn who said to do whatever my son's job suggested.  And nothing they could do unless she gets symptoms.  I'm not joking.  

He isn't coming here.  But he can't go to a hotel.  All are shut down here.  He is sleeping at work.  

She could potentially have it depending on asymptomatic spread anyways.  She was washing his clothes at the door and cleaning the house daily but when she called me she was like, that's all fine and good but we kissed! (Of course) and before someone jumps all over it those preventions were BEFORE the news of a possible closer exposure. We do have community spread so we were all staying home except the two men who were going to work (my dh and my son)

 

Edited March 18, 2020 by busymama7

[ktgrok]

2 hours ago, barnwife said:

This. And I have been paying attention because *cough* I might know someone who that applies to *cough*. I'd just have him go home and change/shower immediately. 

Congratulations on that cough 🙂

2 hours ago, kbutton said:

I hope he is going to quarantine for 14 days. Otherwise, what Stella says. An exposure to an exposure is not an exposure if the spouse your son works with is not positive for COVID.

 

But, they don't know if the coworker has it or not. One can have it and be asymptomatic entirely, and able to spread it. There is no way to know until coworker is tested. The advice not to consider this an exposure is why this is spreading (not blaming you, but the general advice that would say there is no worry here. There IS reason to worry, until proven otherwise)

1 hour ago, busymama7 said:

Ok so my son is going to stay at the office tonight.  The co worker had a test done today and will have results tomorrow.  I dont know for sure that he's not at work but I'm almost certain he isn't.  The coworker's family (household member)  got it at his work at the county hospital.  

My other  son isnt coming home until the end of May and he is in the states.  We will quarentine as needed/recommended then.  

Perfect. I mean, sleeping at the office isn't fun, but if there will be results tomorrow, that will give him the info he needs. 

[kbutton]

3 minutes ago, Ktgrok said:

But, they don't know if the coworker has it or not. One can have it and be asymptomatic entirely, and able to spread it. There is no way to know until coworker is tested. The advice not to consider this an exposure is why this is spreading (not blaming you, but the general advice that would say there is no worry here. There IS reason to worry, until proven otherwise)

This is per CDC, though I somewhat agree with you. 

It sounds like they'll know soon if the spouse is being tested.

[ktgrok]

4 minutes ago, kbutton said:

This is per CDC, though I somewhat agree with you. 

It sounds like they'll know soon if the spouse is being tested.

That is the CDC reccomendation for testing, but it is a way to ration tests, not a way to have greatest assurance. If it was actually a safe practice we wouldn't have so many people catching it. 

I mean, it's just basic logic. If person A has it, and is in close contact with person B, than it is entirely possible that person B now has it, and could have transmitted it to their close contacts, which in this case is person C. Person B is only "not positive" in the sense that he hasn't been tested yet. (or I guess now he has, but we don't have results). 

Schrodingers virus? 

[City Mouse]

Why not have the pregnant wife go to your house, and the potentially exposed stays at his own home. 

[busymama7]

5 minutes ago, City Mouse said:

Why not have the pregnant wife go to your house, and the potentially exposed stays at his own home. 

We considered that but she has kinds been exposed too through him.  We will know if the man at work has it tomorrow so it's only one night