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Possibly this was mentioned upthread.  I have not read all of the messages...  There seems to be a possibility (or it has been confirmed?) that this Virus has been transmitted from one person to another person, when the first person was asymptomatic? 

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22 minutes ago, Lanny said:

Possibly this was mentioned upthread.  I have not read all of the messages...  There seems to be a possibility (or it has been confirmed?) that this Virus has been transmitted from one person to another person, when the first person was asymptomatic? 

I think this was true with the cases in Germany.  And also possibly in Japan that people have tested positive without having symptoms but not transmitted it.

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27 minutes ago, Lanny said:

Possibly this was mentioned upthread.  I have not read all of the messages...  There seems to be a possibility (or it has been confirmed?) that this Virus has been transmitted from one person to another person, when the first person was asymptomatic? 

20200201-sitrep-12-ncov.pdf?sfvrsn=273c5

latest who report that talks about it a bit

sorry I didn’t mean to embed but can’t link for some reason 

 

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29 minutes ago, Lanny said:

Possibly this was mentioned upthread.  I have not read all of the messages...  There seems to be a possibility (or it has been confirmed?) that this Virus has been transmitted from one person to another person, when the first person was asymptomatic? 

 

The German case, iirc: Someone who hadn’t been in China got sick after contact with a coworker who had been in China and was asymptomatic positive       I think I saw there was one other such in another country.

Also possibly the Japanese tour bus driver who got sick after driving a tour group from China where apparently no one on tour had been clearly showing significant sickness symptoms?

 

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3 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:

https://vietnamnews.vn/society/591720/viet-nam-confirms-seventh-coronavirus-case.html
 

not sure if this is where I saw it but it’s one report anyway. Not sure about the source

 

Thanks.  

I noticed in article it talked about Vietnam stopping flights from China, where Hong Kong was included, then in part of the restriction lifted.  BBC had reported that medical workers in Hong Kong were threatening to strike to get incoming traffic from mainland China stopped because they can’t handle the Coronavirus cases coming in. 

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8 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:

Lol my patient zero is now 10 and it’s slowing down slightly.  My oldest ds gets cranky when he sees patient zero touching stuff in shops because he’s paranoid of getting sick

Yup - my older daughter gives him heck when she catches him! 

8 hours ago, StellaM said:

 

It's super hard. But at least if you have properly and regularly washed hands accidentally touching your face, you're lightening the germ load.

Yes - with it being flu season I'm making sure everyone washes hands with soap as soon as we walk in the house from anywhere, and while out when possible. But when doing an hour long shopping trip or what not, there are SO many chances to touch something on the shelves and then touch their face before we finish up and wash hands. Sigh. 

I've actually started braving the store on the weekend so I can leave kids home with DH, rather than do it when it is less crowded during the week. A decision solidified yesterday when I was there and heard a mom choosing medication for her daughter,r who was with her, because she wanted something labeled for cold AND flu. Meanwhile, her coughing snotting daughter is touching five million things on the shelf! 

I get it, I do - I've had to take sick kids to the store to get meds/tissues/food before. But please try to keep them from touching things! I put mine in the cart if I could at all manage it to help. but she didn't even mention to her daughter to please stop touching things. Ick! 

I did have DD2 with me, but she sits in the cart so she can't reach to touch anything, and I disinfect the areas she can reach as best I can before putting her in. 

2 hours ago, Carrie12345 said:

I say this with all the love in the world, mother of 5, aunt of 8, Gaga about several friends’ offspring (my keyboard auto capitalized Gaga, lol)...

Children are disgusting. Many adults are barely any better. And we all have unconscious habits and reflexes. I hate winter.

Totally. I worked in veterinary medicine where a normal day had me cleaning up poop, getting peed on, and sticking my fingers up someone's butt. No where near as gross as kids, lol. 

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I'm wondering if all this about the coronavirus will bleed over into educating people about preventing flu - about being cautious regarding asymptomatic exposure, hand washing, etc. 

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I think tonight (Sunday night USA time) the U.S. Government is hoping to have a 2nd Charter flight leave Wuhan for the USA.  Yesterday, they designated 4 military bases where the  people can be taken.

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2 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-CN&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://archive.is/ObawP&xid=17259,15700019,15700186,15700191,15700259,15700271&usg=ALkJrhhh4UF-lUF2EVK9nWCTwWvU6DP0Yg
 

article on why the statistics may be wrong.  No idea about the source accuracy 

following China nonghua news on twitter.  No idea who they are but Love their spirit.  Not pg though 

 

To the extent I can make sense of that it sounds awful.   The descriptions sound consistent with the podcast report about “a virus journey across China” linked above somewhere. 

Maybe later @Arcadia will see it and let us know if the general sense (never mind who is male and female and “coronary” for Coronavirus type mistranslations) of people not being able to get through on 911/999 type emergency lines because of a queue of 500 ahead and infecting families at home because hospitals are full is correct.  

 

 

I had the feeling, though it wasn’t stated that the elderly aren’t being admitted to hospital (or sent home even if very ill) perhaps because they aren’t expected to survive?  Maybe limited beds given to people with more chance? 

 

 

I wonder if it’s known for certain that cremation is a good solution.  It would be terrible if cremation is being rushed and turns out to itself cause greater dispersal of virus.  Maybe worry about that is why remains are not being sent home for dispersal.  

 

I also wonder how the building of the new hospitals is coming along.  

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Does anyone know a link to article on the early stage of the epidemic where, iirc, a doctor (maybe named Huang ?) said it couldn’t be caught except direct from infected animals, thus probably causing too little concern and leaving behavior that changed situation from a small number of cases to an epidemic? 

I am concerned that a similar thing could be happening now with reassurances that outside of China it’s not really a problem.  Not testing the person in Australia who got sick after being on plane outside the designated number of plane rows away from a known case etc.    

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The anti-viral remdesivir worked well for the man in Washington state. He developed atypical pneumonia around the beginning of the second week. When his oxygen dropped to 90% and he had other markers of serious infection, they gave him remdesivir. The next day he felt much better and improved dramatically, except for a lingering cough which would not be unusual for someone to have after pneumonia. Anti-virals are being used elsewhere as well, including China, but the don’t have enough for everyone. They also do not know long-term effects.

Asian males might also be more vulnerable to develop more serious NCoV infections if it’s true that they have significantly more ACE2 receptors which I’ve read is what the NCoV binds to. Not sure if this is true.

 

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Australians still not out yet, supposed to be tomorrow.  I hope so.  I feel pretty concerned that the measures China is seem to be using to try to control it.  

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9 hours ago, Pen said:

 

One UK case was a university student wasn’t it? That might make for more awareness amongst students. 

The two U.K. cases are in York, one is a student at the Uni there.  York is rather close to our home village and I know my kids awareness is heightened at that news.  They know several students at that Uni and are very aware that York is a favorite shopping spot for our village.  An easy drive or train ride for a nice meal and better shopping so friends go up to York every day......we normally go every other week.   York is a major tourist destination both within the U.K. and internationally so the possibility for spreading quickly to many locations is definitely large.  That said both my kids decided not to go to grad school in the U.K. and are in the US.  So Ds was sharing his hand sanitizer at an event in Florida where we are all currently living.  That said because of the number of students who traveled over the holidays when combined with close living conditions at all Uni’s,  students are a group that need to be very aware.  My kids have pointed out their classes are completely available online so if needed they feel fortunate to be able to hang out with mom and dad with their internet and mom’s freezer!  

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6 minutes ago, mumto2 said:

The two U.K. cases are in York, one is a student at the Uni there.  York is rather close to our home village and I know my kids awareness is heightened at that news.  They know several students at that Uni and are very aware that York is a favorite shopping spot for our village.  An easy drive or train ride for a nice meal and better shopping so friends go up to York every day......we normally go every other week.   York is a major tourist destination both within the U.K. and internationally so the possibility for spreading quickly to many locations is definitely large.  That said both my kids decided not to go to grad school in the U.K. and are in the US.  So Ds was sharing his hand sanitizer at an event in Florida where we are all currently living.  That said because of the number of students who traveled over the holidays when combined with close living conditions at all Uni’s,  students are a group that need to be very aware.  My kids have pointed out their classes are completely available online so if needed they feel fortunate to be able to hang out with mom and dad with their internet and mom’s freezer!  

 

Ah. Didn’t realize you were in USA currently.  Being able to study or work online from home could be a big help in getting illness under control.  

Dorm life plus uni stresses  tend to promote illness proliferation IME  

I live in a rural area where nearest decent size city is a university town,  which I think adds to illness spread in our area, but the Willamette valley of Oregon was apparently considered an area of illness back into Native American days, perhaps  related to environmental conditions, perhaps the very high winter humidity, or maybe an apocryphal  story.  My son though tended to get sick when track meets took him up into higher Cascades towns, even if drier and snowy rather than drenching rain of the valley and lower mountains .  I think it was from getting chilled. 

 

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1 hour ago, Pen said:

Maybe later @Arcadia will see it and let us know if the general sense (never mind who is male and female and “coronary” for Coronavirus type mistranslations) of people not being able to get through on 911/999 type emergency lines because of a queue of 500 ahead and infecting families at home because hospitals are full is correct.  

I also wonder how the building of the new hospitals is coming along.  

 

The cached copy of the article is here in Chinese  

https://terminus2049.github.io/archive/2020/02/02/people-outside-of-statistics.html

Having gone through SARS in Asia, not surprising that hospitals are full and test kits are in short supply. Asia people knows the numbers can never be accurate in an epidemic even if no numbers were fudged. China is also battling the H5N1 avian flu as well. https://www.businessinsider.com/bird-flu-china-coronavirus-pathogenic-strain-of-h5n1-highly-2020-2

According to below linked Chinese article, two new hospitals would be ready on Feb 5th. They use the blueprint of the SARS epidemic hospital for these two.

The link is a mirrored copy of the original article on hospital building progress http://m.qulishi.com/article/202001/389581.html

Have to leave for my infusion treatment soon. I’ll check for more updated news articles later.

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46 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

Australians still not out yet, supposed to be tomorrow.  I hope so.  I feel pretty concerned that the measures China is seem to be using to try to control it.  

 

They were apparently wrongly assured early on that it wouldn’t spread human to human.

 By time it was clear that was a wrong belief, virus was already epidemic in Wuhan / Hubei.  From then on they were “behind the eight ball” so to speak.    

At that point measures seem simultaneously and frighteningly both draconian and utterly inadequate.   And even amazing things like building a 1000 bed hospital in 7 days can’t begin to deal with all the critical condition cases let alone less severe ones. (Even if there are only 8000 sick in Wuhan, not far more sick, 1000 beds won’t suffice.)  

It sounds like they are triaging, which is really all that can be done when the number of sick are far more than resources can handle.  But with an easily spread infection that’s also a problem. 

I wonder if people who have had it and recover have immunity?

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I need to stop reading this thread. 

At this point, it seems inevitable to me that it cannot be contained. It also seems like it's being spread often during the incubation period and that is part of what's driving the spread.

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@Pen

This article is written more as a local government press release. It does contain information and google translate does a decent job translating https://m.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_5736167

This article is written as a news article. Google translate somehow translated Feb 1st to May 1st which is weird because it’s obviously Feb 1st. Less laborious read compared to first article and good information too. https://m.yicai.com/news/100485658.html

 Both articles stated medical supplies are short. Monetary donations are being raised and used to buy medical supplies. China Red Cross is doing their part in monetary donations and medical supplies. 

If you want to use google translate, do it on the second article as the first article is very verbose. Information is similar.

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2 hours ago, Pen said:

 

I wonder if people who have had it and recover have immunity?

Viral infections almost always result in immunity. There may be concern though that the virus itself could mutate into multiple similar strains, as influenza does; a person could catch a new strain even if they recovered from the original one.

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37 minutes ago, maize said:

Viral infections almost always result in immunity. There may be concern though that the virus itself could mutate into multiple similar strains, as influenza does; a person could catch a new strain even if they recovered from the original one.

Eventually, it's part of what ends an epidemic. The virus starts losing enough hosts.

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3 hours ago, maize said:

Viral infections almost always result in immunity. There may be concern though that the virus itself could mutate into multiple similar strains, as influenza does; a person could catch a new strain even if they recovered from the original one.

 

What was on my mind asking that is the thought that maybe by now there are a number of recovered milder case people who will in not too long be feeling well enough to be able to help with sick people in some way.  

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6 hours ago, BeachGal said:

The anti-viral remdesivir worked well for the man in Washington state. He developed atypical pneumonia around the beginning of the second week. When his oxygen dropped to 90% and he had other markers of serious infection, they gave him remdesivir. The next day he felt much better and improved dramatically, except for a lingering cough which would not be unusual for someone to have after pneumonia. Anti-virals are being used elsewhere as well, including China, but the don’t have enough for everyone. They also do not know long-term effects.

Asian males might also be more vulnerable to develop more serious NCoV infections if it’s true that they have significantly more ACE2 receptors which I’ve read is what the NCoV binds to. Not sure if this is true.

 

Here's a Reuters article about a different med protocol that also worked well in Thailand:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cocktail-flu-hiv-drugs-appears-124753996.html

The doctors from Rajavithi Hospital in Bangkok said a new approach in coronavirus treatment had improved the condition of several patients under their care, including one 70-year-old Chinese woman from Wuhan who tested positive for the coronavirus for 10 days.

The drug treatment includes a mixture of anti-HIV drugs lopinavir and ritonavir, in combination with flu drug oseltamivir in large doses.

"This is not the cure, but the patient's condition has vastly improved. From testing positive for 10 days under our care, after applying this combination of medicine the test result became negative within 48 hours," Dr. Kriangska Atipornwanich, a lung specialist at Rajavithi, told reporters.

"The outlook is good but we still have to do more study to determine that this can be a standard treatment."

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I read, somewhere, today, on FoxNews.com or in the Google Discover feed on my phone, that the U.S. Government is increasing the Quarantine time, from 14 days to 30 days. I am not sure if that applies only to U.S. Citizens and their families who are being evacuated to the 4 military bases in the USA, or if it also applies to Aliens.  Or, if  Aliens coming from Hunan will be barred from entry.  The article I read was to me ambiguous in exactly what the regulations are and I suspect the regulations are not yet in concrete.

Those who were on the first evacuation flight are under the first quarantine order the CDC has issued in 50 years. I believe that quarantine is for 14 days. They are in So CA.

It seems that they do not have a solid understanding about how this Corona Virus works. If that lack of understanding continues, I suspect they will limit travelers from China going to the USA.

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I definitely don't think there's been a coverup worldwide. I mean, in China, they definitely covered up the early spread. But I don't think other large governments are at the moment.

One thing that has been growing is bigotry against Chinese Americans in the wake of this. I read about a Chinese American professor who hasn't been to China itself in many years whose students demanded she wear a mask to come to class and teach. Like, ugh. Not cool, folks. 

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39 minutes ago, chiguirre said:

Here's a Reuters article about a different med protocol that also worked well in Thailand:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cocktail-flu-hiv-drugs-appears-124753996.html

The doctors from Rajavithi Hospital in Bangkok said a new approach in coronavirus treatment had improved the condition of several patients under their care, including one 70-year-old Chinese woman from Wuhan who tested positive for the coronavirus for 10 days.

The drug treatment includes a mixture of anti-HIV drugs lopinavir and ritonavir, in combination with flu drug oseltamivir in large doses.

"This is not the cure, but the patient's condition has vastly improved. From testing positive for 10 days under our care, after applying this combination of medicine the test result became negative within 48 hours," Dr. Kriangska Atipornwanich, a lung specialist at Rajavithi, told reporters.

"The outlook is good but we still have to do more study to determine that this can be a standard treatment."

 

Fauci mentioned that they are looking at a number of anti virals as well as possibly something new that involves antibodies. The Riverside evacuees are involved in the antibodies treatment from what I’ve read but I don’t know much about it. Gilead, the US company that makes Remdesivir, the anti viral that worked very well in the Washington State man, has given China some doses of Remdesivir to use. We’ll have to wait to hear more about them.

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Patient in home isolation in my city tested negative. 

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The CDC site lists 121 patient tests awaiting results In the US. Seeing whether those are mostly negative or not will say a lot about where we are with this in the US. Hopefully they’re all negative and the tests are just being done out of an abundance of caution. There have been 114 negative tests already, so hopefully that’s at least reassuring that so far most tests have been negative. 
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

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48 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

Thank you for this, did not know about it. We went to a local university campus today to attend an event. Lots of people wearing masks there.

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9 hours ago, Farrar said:

I need to stop reading this thread. 

I am feeling like I am going to have to stop reading this board for awhile. Between this thread, the threads with people who are sick, people trying to prevent getting sick...I feel like I'm gonna catch the flu from the forum!!

I don't even know a lot of sick people right now IRL but a few minutes on here is making me anxious about breathing in public.

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1 hour ago, mathnerd said:

Thank you for this, did not know about it. We went to a local university campus today to attend an event. Lots of people wearing masks there.


There are quite a few boardies living in our county. Less people out shopping today but we were thinking it is because of Super Bowl.

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43 minutes ago, EmseB said:

I don't even know a lot of sick people right now IRL but a few minutes on here is making me anxious about breathing in public.

Trying being one of those recently sick people and fearing walking by people in the stores who are coughing or sneezing -- LOL!  I certainly don't want the flu again -- LOL!

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From abc7news https://abc7news.com/health/2-cases-of-coronavirus-confirmed-in-san-benito-county-health-officials-say/5899327/

“BREAKING: Two cases of coronavirus have been confirmed south of Gilroy in San Benito County, according to health officials. They say the case includes a husband and wife, and both are 57 years old.”

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1 hour ago, EmseB said:

I am feeling like I am going to have to stop reading this board for awhile. Between this thread, the threads with people who are sick, people trying to prevent getting sick...I feel like I'm gonna catch the flu from the forum!!

I don't even know a lot of sick people right now IRL but a few minutes on here is making me anxious about breathing in public.

Lol

i was shopping the other day and there were people coughing everywhere.  I think just because I was noticing them.  I did my usual “push the button on the lift” to ds who thinks that pushing lift buttons is his life mission.  Then I was like ah no... not with your finger ahh too late.  The other dude in the life was having a good laugh at the paranoid mum.

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For those who are interested in epidemiology & infectious diseases in general, there was a Canadian drama show about it that was added to Amazon Prime video recently.  It's a show called ReGenesis.  Some of it is way over the top, but it's an entertaining thing to stream when you're working out.  As an aside, I think it was Ellen Page's first role.  She played the teen daughter of the main character.

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6 hours ago, Lanny said:

I read, somewhere, today, on FoxNews.com or in the Google Discover feed on my phone, that the U.S. Government is increasing the Quarantine time, from 14 days to 30 days. I am not sure if that applies only to U.S. Citizens and their families who are being evacuated to the 4 military bases in the USA, or if it also applies to Aliens.  Or, if  Aliens coming from Hunan will be barred from entry.  The article I read was to me ambiguous in exactly what the regulations are and I suspect the regulations are not yet in concrete.

Those who were on the first evacuation flight are under the first quarantine order the CDC has issued in 50 years. I believe that quarantine is for 14 days. They are in So CA.

It seems that they do not have a solid understanding about how this Corona Virus works. If that lack of understanding continues, I suspect they will limit travelers from China going to the USA.

 

My most recent news still gave 14 day quarantine, but only aliens who have American family or other ties can come if they have been in ? China ? In the last 2 weeks (so no Australians who have been to China recently, for example) making it clear to me it is about likelihood of potential exposure, not race. 

Also one new hospital is all done! 

It gave confirmed case number as over 17,000

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/live-updates/china-coronavirus-outbreak-us-plans-wuhan-evacuation-death-toll-number-cases-rises-today-2020-01-28/

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13 hours ago, Farrar said:

I definitely don't think there's been a coverup worldwide. I mean, in China, they definitely covered up the early spread. But I don't think other large governments are at the moment.

One thing that has been growing is bigotry against Chinese Americans in the wake of this. I read about a Chinese American professor who hasn't been to China itself in many years whose students demanded she wear a mask to come to class and teach. Like, ugh. Not cool, folks. 

A Chinese British lecturer I was talking to on Friday hadn't reported any prejudice against him, but has a cough and is self-conscious about what people will think.

Meanwhile, two people in my department got into an argument last week and their boss had to step in. Person A talked all morning about the virus. Person B finally asked him to be quiet so that she could concentrate as she had a deadline. Person A said Person B should not be in work because she had a cold (no travel history). Person B said it was just a minor cold, no sneezing/cough. Person A said she should get it checked out (he comes to work with colds all the time). Person B said, 'So, would you rather I wasn't here?' Person A said 'Yes'. Person B walked out.

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So the two cases in my state that initially stated they were asymptomatic on the plane flight have now said that one of them did have symptoms on the plane.  So health authorities are trying to contact trace all the other passengers.  Also trying to confirm that when the couple self isolated they really were properly isolated.  
 

they have set up a lab for local testing but are currently verifying results against interstate testing.  By the end of the week should be up and running reducing turn around from 48 to 24 hours.

 

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I also find myself wondering whether that could be a factor in other apparently asymptomatic cases.  That actually people have either miscommunicated or been embarrassed to say they were there when they weren’t 100pc

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10 hours ago, EmseB said:

I am feeling like I am going to have to stop reading this board for awhile. Between this thread, the threads with people who are sick, people trying to prevent getting sick...I feel like I'm gonna catch the flu from the forum!!

I don't even know a lot of sick people right now IRL but a few minutes on here is making me anxious about breathing in public.

I know more sick/recently sick people than I care to right now, lol. I probably don’t belong in public because my face doesn’t hide anything, no matter how hard I try.  I was shopping last week when a guy sneezed in the aisle.  He looked offended, so I’m guessing my face was pretty offensive!

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Here is a snippet from the NYT that arrived in my inbox this morning:

Last month, the government put Wuhan in a virtual lockdown, sealing off the city and banning most public transportation and private cars from its streets in a desperate effort to contain the outbreak. Now, many residents say it is nearly impossible to get the health care they need to treat — or even diagnose — the coronavirus.

Expressing exasperation, doctors say there is a shortage of testing kits and other medical supplies, and it is not clear why more are not available. The ban on transportation means some residents have to walk for hours to get to hospitals — if they are well enough to make the journey. Layers of bureaucracy stand between residents and help. And the long lines outside hospitals for testing and treatment suggest that the outbreak is spreading far beyond the official count of cases.

Not surprisingly, it looks like the situation in China is way worse than the official numbers would indicate.  I can't imagine how scary it must be living in Wuhan right now.

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1 hour ago, Carrie12345 said:

I know more sick/recently sick people than I care to right now, lol. I probably don’t belong in public because my face doesn’t hide anything, no matter how hard I try.  I was shopping last week when a guy sneezed in the aisle.  He looked offended, so I’m guessing my face was pretty offensive!

 

I was at the register the other day as the cashier walks over to hand sanitizer and uses it making a comment to a coworker about the previous person in line. She had started to cough and made some comment that it was just allergies. This woman looked awful. There was no way she just had allergies. Had I touched her body I'm positive it would have been fever level hot.

I would have been sympathetic if she were buying medicine. But I was at a party supply store.

Earlier in the week, I was the coughing person who felt terrible. I had just eaten some granola before entering the dentist office and legit had some tickling my throat. So I start a coughing fit just as two women walk into the tiny waiting room. I immediately excuse myself to the bathroom, get water, and clear it out. But I knew whatever I said to them they wouldn't believe me.

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Yes, in Wuhan they're burning bodies that died of pneumonia, without counting them in the virus totals (because they were never tested); there are neither enough hospital beds nor enough test kits to either address or even count the number of people who have the virus and are dying of it.

I'm hopeful that that means that it can be controlled, at least this spring and summer, outside of Wuhan, in places where it hasn't gotten so out of control that people with the virus can't be isolated or treated and end up spreading it farther, making the situation ever worse, because the health infrastructure can't handle it.  In the US and even outside of Wuhan in China it seems like people with the virus are mostly being found, isolated, and treated.  Inside Wuhan it's a nightmare, but I don't know what else can realistically be done. They built a hospital in 7 days.  It's just not enough.

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35 minutes ago, Susan in TX said:

In Seattle they are doing house calls for suspected cases https://komonews.com/news/local/harborview-begins-house-calls-to-check-for-coronavirus

The amount of protective gear that the medical team is wearing does not reassure me. 

Susan in TX 

Wow, that’s definitely... something I can’t fully process right now.

I’m looking forward to bad weather for the next few days so I don’t have to make excuses to stay home. If cases in NYC start testing positive, I’m going into hibernation mode.

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17 hours ago, kand said:

The CDC site lists 121 patient tests awaiting results In the US. Seeing whether those are mostly negative or not will say a lot about where we are with this in the US. Hopefully they’re all negative and the tests are just being done out of an abundance of caution. There have been 114 negative tests already, so hopefully that’s at least reassuring that so far most tests have been negative. 
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

So far, so good. Only 82 pending now, and 167 negative. That’s a good trend. 

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Caixin English website with updates up to Feb 2nd  https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-02/wuhan-virus-latest-china-reports-second-pneumonia-linked-death-101505300.html

Caixin Chinese website with updates up to Feb 3rd http://www.caixin.com/2020-01-21/101506971.html

google translation of the Feb 3rd press release 

“On February 3, the National Health and Medical Commission held a press conference to address the progress in the use of drugs in the clinical treatment of the new coronavirus pneumonia epidemic. Song Shuli, a spokesperson for the National Health and Medical Commission, revealed that at present, one is Kelizhi and Chinese medicine treatment. Some clinical trials are collecting clinical information data, and recently there is a new drug called Redecive. Many medical institutions are conducting clinical trials on this drug organization in order to study the safety and effectiveness of the drug.

At a press conference on the prevention and control of the new crown pneumonia epidemic in Beijing on February 3, Miao Jianhong, deputy head of the Xicheng District, said that there were 9 cases of cluster diagnosis in the intensive care unit of the Cardiology Department of Fuxing Hospital, of which 5 were medical staff and 5 were hospitalized Four cases have been transferred to designated hospitals for treatment, mainly mild. As of 24:00 on February 2, a total of 212 confirmed cases were diagnosed in Beijing. He Xiong, deputy director of Beijing Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said that at present, a total of 41 cluster cases were reported in the city, involving 124 cases, accounting for more than 50% of confirmed cases.

On February 3, the National Health and Medical Commission informed that from 04:00 to February 2nd, 2829 newly diagnosed cases (2103 cases in Hubei Province) and 186 severe cases (139 cases in Hubei Province) were newly reported in the Mainland. There were 57 more deaths (56 in Hubei Province and 1 in Chongqing City), 147 newly cured cases (80 in Hubei Province), and 5173 new suspected cases (3260 Hubei Province). As of 24:00 on February 2nd, a total of 17,205 confirmed cases had been reported in the Mainland, 2296 severe cases, 361 deaths, 475 cured patients, and 21558 suspected cases.

On February 3, the Hubei Provincial Health and Health Commission informed that from 04:00 to 24:00 on February 2, 2103 new cases of new coronary pneumonia were reported in Hubei (including: 1033 in Wuhan, 166 in Jingzhou, 169 in Xiaogan, and Huanggang City 244 cases). There were 56 new deaths in the province (41 in Wuhan). As of 24:00 on February 2, a total of 11,177 confirmed cases (including 5142 in Wuhan, 548 in Xiangyang, 918 in Xiaogan, and 1246 in Huanggang) had been confirmed in Hubei Province. 295 cases have been cured and 350 patients died ( Among them: 265 in Wuhan, 15 in Ezhou, 14 in Xiaogan, 17 in Huanggang, and 10 in Tianmen. At present, 9618 patients are still being treated in the hospital (among them: 1223 severe cases and 478 critical cases).”

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