Terabith Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ausmumof3 said: All the epidemiologists etc have said that the measures are the same social distancing masking etc. it’s just that to achieve the same slow down we need more people to be doing the measures better. If it’s 50pc more contagious I guess that maybe means people need to reduce exposure by that much to get the same effect? Basically the spike is now better at hooking on to human cells (?) so you don’t need to be exposed to as much to get an infectious dose. (From my very much non expert translation of what I read so take that for what it’s worth) I did read some hamster research today that said tentatively surface transmission may be causing less severe disease than breathing it in which was interesting. Great. We're completely unable to get people to mask and social distance here even before. Will masks provide less protection now? Like, if before my Happy Mask provided 15 minutes or so of protection in a store, will that now be five minutes or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamonlyone Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) I thought this Johns Hopkins mortality analysis was interesting (case-fatality ratio of the 20 most affected countries). United States is 18th out of 20 in observed case-fatality ratio (1.7%): https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality For some reason, when my cousin posted the link on Facebook it was taken down as spam. I just noticed the tab for deaths per 100,000, and the US is 4th out of 20 in that category. Edited December 30, 2020 by iamonlyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Terabith said: Great. We're completely unable to get people to mask and social distance here even before. Will masks provide less protection now? Like, if before my Happy Mask provided 15 minutes or so of protection in a store, will that now be five minutes or something? Maybe? Because you won’t need as many virus particles (? Is that the right word?) to get infected so you need to figure out how to reduce the dose. But I think the science is still a bit fuzzy - they only have the one analysis on the percentage increase in transmission and the thing about the mechanism as to why. It might still turn out that some of the increase was just luck with the new variant turning up during the Christmas sales or something. Although that’s seeming less likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Any idea what people who doubt the existence or importance of Covid are saying about the death of Luke Letlow? Do they think he died of something else? Or..... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-55481711 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Laura Corin said: Any idea what people who doubt the existence or importance of Covid are saying about the death of Luke Letlow? Do they think he died of something else? Or..... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-55481711 From what I've seen so far, while most news stories are saying he died of covid, RW media (Fox, NY Post, Daily Mail, etc.) are saying he "died of a heart attack after a procedure related to covid." So maybe the deniers will write it off as yet another person who died "with covid" but not "of covid"? The photos of him with his little boy and baby girl, who will now grow up without their father, are just heartbreaking. 😥 By all accounts he was young, fit, and healthy, with no underlying conditions, and yet he went downhill so fast. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Down to three new cases in NSW and 0 in Vic. Maybe lower testing on NYE but they had 32,000 tests. Really hoping we’ve been lucky again 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 new cases in Vic all connected to NSW We are expecting the numbers to go up as the Vic / NSW border is totally closed now ( hard closure, even Vic people will no longer be able to return even if they do hotel quarantine except special circumstances) and thousand s and thousands of Victorians on summer holidays had to rush home to avoid getting stuck in NSW for who knows how long. These thousands of people were (suppose) to travel non stop without stopping to their homes then get tested and isolate for 14 days. the reality is that lots of them were camping, and had to drive up to 2000 km. meaning they had to stop on the way, get food, take their kids to toilets etc on the way. Now there are small towns having panic attacks and mass testing requested as there is traces in sewage etc 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkie Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Seasider too said: Well what could that procedure have been? All I can think of for rapidly progressing covid would be intubation. I read that it was surgery for a Covid-related blood clot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 8 cases in NSW and 3 in Vic. They are concerned about the number of exposures in NSW linked to a BWS (beer wine spirits store). our borders are still open to Vic for now but advice is to reconsider travel. Here in SA we’ve had another case in quarantine of the new UK strain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 PA Republican State Representative Mike Reese died of a brain aneurysm after contracting COVID 19 at age 42. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532378-pennsylvania-state-rep-mike-reese-dies-at-42 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) On 12/30/2020 at 8:38 AM, iamonlyone said: I thought this Johns Hopkins mortality analysis was interesting (case-fatality ratio of the 20 most affected countries). United States is 18th out of 20 in observed case-fatality ratio (1.7%): https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality For some reason, when my cousin posted the link on Facebook it was taken down as spam. I just noticed the tab for deaths per 100,000, and the US is 4th out of 20 in that category. Nm Edited January 3, 2021 by Frances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Worldwide passed 85,000,000 cases US passed 350,000 deaths. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbutton Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Jean in Newcastle said: PA Republican State Representative Mike Reese died of a brain aneurysm after contracting COVID 19 at age 42. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532378-pennsylvania-state-rep-mike-reese-dies-at-42 That’s the first mention I’ve seen that he had Covid. Ugh. We are an aneurysm-y family (multiple kinds, multiple sides of my family). Aneurysms are already something thought to be unusual, but aren’t really. I wish we had better data on the Covid aneurysm connection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 3 cases in Vic, 0 for NSW but two that came in after the cut off time. Back to the roller coaster of wondering if we’re going back to lockdowns or we’ll get back to zero Covid again. Genomic testing showed the Benalla cluster isn’t linked to the Avalon cluster so there’s two separate break out events it seems. Edited January 4, 2021 by Ausmumof3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 BBC News - Covid in Scotland: Scots ordered to stay at home in new lockdownhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55531069 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Are you able to work from home? That's a lockdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Starr said: Are you able to work from home? That's a lockdown. Yes. I've been mostly home since March last year. I went into the largely-empty office one day a week from summer until the end of November. It's easy to work from home, thank goodness, but I miss the students dropping by and I worry about their isolation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 cases for Vic and four for NSW (including the two mentioned yesterday morning) lots of cases in hotel quarantine around the country as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 This is just so incomprehensible. After reading about the situation in TN hospitals here, I just saw a report that they are opening up movie theaters to 100% occupancy. It’s beyond belief. 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/prevent-spread-covid-19-within-your-home nothing revolutionary but guidelines for keeping safe while caring for Covid patients at home. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Laura Corin said: Yes. I've been mostly home since March last year. I went into the largely-empty office one day a week from summer until the end of November. It's easy to work from home, thank goodness, but I miss the students dropping by and I worry about their isolation. I'm sure having the students drop by was a bonus to your job. It's nice to be around young people. Hopefully this will get sorted before everyone goes crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal_Bear Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 12/30/2020 at 5:47 AM, Terabith said: Great. We're completely unable to get people to mask and social distance here even before. Will masks provide less protection now? Like, if before my Happy Mask provided 15 minutes or so of protection in a store, will that now be five minutes or something? @Terabith I don't think of it has less protection...I think it is more like thinking about your risk budget and how much you are willing to expend. Masking doesn't eliminate all risk of exposure. It just reduces your overall risk exposure. Of course, when there is a lot of community spread...then doing what you can to minimize how much your expose yourself is a good thing to at least lower the amount of virus you are exposed to which means if you do get sick, you will likely have a milder illness. I use that map from GA Tech to think about when and how often anyone in my household needs to go anywhere right now. Looking at that helps me decide based on the number of people indoors the likelihood someone is infected. In San Diego, the health department started testing for the UK strain and all the cases are popping up with no travel history so they have concluded that it is wide spread throughout the community right now. AFAIK in the anecdotal stories I am hearing, the people who are contracting it where not adhering to social distancing and masking. And there was lots of large gatherings for all the various holidays. Here's the tool if you want to use it: https://covid19risk.biosci.gatech.edu/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 BBC News - Covid: England and Scotland begin new lockdowns as cases risehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55540679 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 12 hours ago, TCB said: This is just so incomprehensible. After reading about the situation in TN hospitals here, I just saw a report that they are opening up movie theaters to 100% occupancy. It’s beyond belief. And people will justify it as "mental health" as if movie theater attendance was a basic necessity of life. We'v lost all track of needs vs wants in this country. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadie Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, keithrooney said: No matter how much we are in isolation, my opinion will last until 2022, you need to entertain yourself with something)) who wants to have a good time come Reported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Bno BREAKING: San Diego County reports 28 new cases with coronavirus mutation first found in the UK, raising county's total to 32 All of the new UK variant cases in San Diego are from specimens collected last week and come from 19 different households San Diego County's health officer on new cases with UK variant: "The fact that these cases have been identified in multiple parts of the region shows that this strain of the virus could be rapidly spreading" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 new local case for Vic. There’s concern over a Covid positive case who travelled into regional areas of NSW so hopefully didn’t manage to spread it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Governess Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said: Bno BREAKING: San Diego County reports 28 new cases with coronavirus mutation first found in the UK, raising county's total to 32 All of the new UK variant cases in San Diego are from specimens collected last week and come from 19 different households San Diego County's health officer on new cases with UK variant: "The fact that these cases have been identified in multiple parts of the region shows that this strain of the virus could be rapidly spreading" This is frightening. I really hope that some of the rapid spread we have experienced recently is due to this strain and this isn’t newly arrived. Things don’t need to get any worse here. 😞 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 5 hours ago, lovelearnandlive said: This is frightening. I really hope that some of the rapid spread we have experienced recently is due to this strain and this isn’t newly arrived. Things don’t need to get any worse here. 😞 I hope so as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 China seems to be having an outbreak around Hebei area. They are implementing “war time measures” and blocking off some roads. they also seem to be denying access to the WHO team investigating the origins right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Tiggywinkle Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 The South African strain is also very concerning. We know now this is endemic and something humanity is going to be living with likely forever. We can hope the vaccine is flexible enough for various mutations, but there are just no guarantees for anything. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambam Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 This extremely rapid and accurate test sounds promising:https://www.kltv.com/2021/01/06/tech-professors-create-ultra-fast-covid-test-that-gives-results-seconds-gold-standard-accuracy/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 0 local cases for both Vic and NSW 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Bambam said: This extremely rapid and accurate test sounds promising:https://www.kltv.com/2021/01/06/tech-professors-create-ultra-fast-covid-test-that-gives-results-seconds-gold-standard-accuracy/ This could make a huge difference. I wonder how cheap they will be to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) A quarantine hotel worker in Brisbane has tested positive. Also one more case in NSW that came in after this mornings report. Edited January 7, 2021 by Ausmumof3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 US - over 4000 deaths in a day on worldometer also record case numbers. Not sure what percent positivity is doing UK - first day over 60,000 cases. Over 1000 deaths (back up to almost April levels 😞 ) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 The case in Brisbane had been confirmed tonight be the more infectious uk strain 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 from BNO Details on new coronavirus lockdowns in China: - Shijiazhuang, capital of Hebei province, bans 11 million residents from leaving city - Nearby Gaocheng District, with nearly 800K residents, put on total lockdown. 1 person per family can buy essential items every 2 days 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55574662 New treatments test well. Edited January 7, 2021 by Laura Corin 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfknitter.# Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, Laura Corin said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55574662 New treatments test well. This is the kind of news I've been wanting to hear more of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, Elfknitter.# said: This is the kind of news I've been wanting to hear more of. I hate to be a pessimist but I can tell you that, when you’re working in ICU with these Covid patients, it really feels like these meds hardly do anything. We were just talking about it at work yesterday. It’s really hard to maintain too much optimism about the patients who end up sick enough to be in ICU. I’m not saying they don’t help, but the effect does not seem to be enough to feel like it’s helping much. That’s why we need studies not anecdotes, of course. Also, I haven’t used those mentioned in the study, but have seen all the others used regularly. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 New England Journal of Medicine just published a small (n=160) but solid RCT indicating that plasma can be helpful — but only if given within 3 days of symptom onset. Only 16% of the treatment group developed severe respiratory disease versus 31% of the placebo group. All participants were over 65 and many had one or more underlying conditions. The fact that the treatment needs to be given by IV so early in the progression of symptoms (likely before the patient is hospitalized or may even have seen a doctor) makes it somewhat impractical for most cases, but it has been suggested as a possible treatment in care facilities, where cases can be caught very early and patients can get IV treatments in situ. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2033700 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) Brisbane has 9 new UK strain cases. The whole greater city is to go into full lockdown effective immediately Edited January 7, 2021 by Melissa in Australia 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said: Brisbane has 9 new UK strain cases. The whole greater city is to go into full lockdown effective immediately ☹️ fam cancelled their trip down from Brisbane a couple of days ago probably lucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 So it looks like the 9 cases were all in hotel quarantine - it’s only the one cleaner who tested positive that has been out in the wider community. Let’s hope it didn’t escape. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Laura Corin said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55574662 New treatments test well. That’s good news! I had heard positive things about tocilizumab earlier but no actual data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Ausmumof3 said: So it looks like the 9 cases were all in hotel quarantine - it’s only the one cleaner who tested positive that has been out in the wider community. Let’s hope it didn’t escape. That is good news 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 So we are having some changes around borders etc Pre flight testing for all international arrivals mandatory masking on domestic and international flights lots of local internal border changes etc several states cutting international arrivals in half looks like they are fairly concerned about the Models of the more transmissible variant. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Bno Los Angeles County reports nearly 20,000 new coronavirus cases - New cases: 19,719 - Positivity rate: 20.4% (-1.4) - In hospital: 8,098 (+75) - In ICU: 1,620 (+15) - Available ICU: 0% (-) - New deaths: 218 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookbard Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Thanks Ausmum, I saw Scomo for 2 secs on TV and thought something was up. I am glad they're doing something. I'm quite concerned that this new strain could overwhelm contract tracing here. There are people streaming out of the cities into country towns for camping and so on - it could cause serious issues. I wish they'd lock down Sydney to be honest, or at least say stay within Greater Sydney - it's big enough, after all! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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