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HVAC issue— we only have old heater, but my impression is some filters are supposed to have pores small enough to filter some viruses (don’t know about SARS-CoV-2 specifically). However judging by ours , there is still a lot of gap where filter isn’t a perfect fit, so there are space in visible gap size, not just pores in material.

 

 I think if there’s a known sick person they are supposed to be isolated in one room as much as possible with window open to ventilate as much as possible. A mask worn (I know, ha ha, what mask, there aren’t any, but whatever is possible then) when going to use communal bathroom etc.

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DS got home 3 hours ago!  ❤️❤️

Update-  my youngest is not only short of breath, coughing, dizzy, nausaues, and with headache-  she is also confused.  I called our doctor and talked with him and she is going to be going to the ER.

Thought I'd post a pic of my dd, getting ready to spend another day in a coronavirus triage tent!  

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https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/kaiser-to-open-drive-up-coronavirus-testing-areas/2253063/

“Kaiser Permanente medical facilities in Northern California are planning to open drive-up coronavirus testing for members who meet the criteria for a test, the health care nonprofit announced Wednesday.

The locations will enable Kaiser to safely test patients who may have COVID-19 while protectiing its own staff and minimizing potential exposure in the greater community, Kaiser said.

Patients who meet the Centers for Disease Control criteria for a test will receive a doctor’s order and an appointment to arrive for testing at one of the specially-equipped testing sites, Kaiser said. Medical staff will take necessary swabs for COVID-19, Flu and respiratory virus (RSV) testing while the patient remains in their car.”

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16 minutes ago, mom2scouts said:

Most schools in our area have planned spring break in the next several weeks. Our governor just announced that all K-12 schools have a mandatory 3 week spring break starting Monday. Colleges have already been closed. My poor homeschooled kids are still going to have school. Everything is being cancelled and we'll be stuck at home, so we might as well get some work done!

My poor kids have basically no spring break (well, two online providers have a break but their course load is heavy enough that they are using it to catch up.  Other parents are talking about having fun trying out homeschooling, meanwhile my poor kids have their noses to the grindstone!

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1 minute ago, SKL said:

Yes, I think people will ask elderly folks and certain out-of-towners to stay home, but it is hard to think of calling the whole wedding a sunk cost.  As for funerals, it's not like you can reschedule those.

I get what you’re saying but to be honest one wedding is going to be the least of the sunk costs we are talking about worldwide.

we have rellies getting married in a couple of months.  The couple wanted a smaller wedding and the parents a big one. Good chance they might be getting a smaller one after all.

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OK I'm not complaining about school being closed, but this is a big deal.  Lucky for me I work at home anyway.  Right or wrong, a lot of parents are gonna need a lot of help in the near future.

Also ...

My kids' cell phones are going nuts with KIDS being angry about school being closed!  That is a surprise.  😛

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Our Governor (Larry Hogan) is supposed to speak here at 4pm. According to dh’s friend (whose wife is a school principal) he is going to close all schools. 

I’m so stressed out about France.

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2 minutes ago, square_25 said:

 

OK, but we have no reason to believe the cases are geographically restricted right now. We simply aren't testing enough. So chances are, it's going to be everywhere. At this point, all that matters is HOW MANY people you come in contact with. 

I absolutely see the point about highway rest stops, though. I didn't think of that. 

 

I think we need to presume that it is not absolute ly everywhere yet.

Because if we prematurely act as if it is then we will make it be everywhere even if it is not at this time.  

People I know in some parts of Oregon and California are *not* seeing or hearing about the same sorts of weird probably CV19 illness that I have been seeing and hearing about in the interstate 5 corridor.   My mom in a part of NC is not yet, even though it has reached the state and nearby parts of neighboring states. 

I expect that even though it is in NYC already, it isn’t yet even in every spot of NYC. 

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That may be so. I think in some families every time anyone gets a cold everyone does. But it isn’t universally true even in very small single bath homes.

 

In my house I see no point to attempting social distancing... you do what works for you. However, I think it's worth noting that just because not everyone shows symptoms doesn't mean they avoided exposure. You can be infected with colds, flus, and coronavirus and show no symptoms. Asymptomatic cases are far more likely the reason not everyone gets sick when living in the same house.

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6 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

@Pen@MEmama@mathnerd

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/kaiser-to-open-drive-up-coronavirus-testing-areas/2253063/

“Kaiser Permanente medical facilities in Northern California are planning to open drive-up coronavirus testing for members who meet the criteria for a test, the health care nonprofit announced Wednesday.

The locations will enable Kaiser to safely test patients who may have COVID-19 while protectiing its own staff and minimizing potential exposure in the greater community, Kaiser said.

Patients who meet the Centers for Disease Control criteria for a test will receive a doctor’s order and an appointment to arrive for testing at one of the specially-equipped testing sites, Kaiser said. Medical staff will take necessary swabs for COVID-19, Flu and respiratory virus (RSV) testing while the patient remains in their car.”

 

Not shooting messenger, just commenting on content of post 😀😉

 

Unfortunately the CDC criteria are still way too narrow!!!

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11 minutes ago, Quill said:

Our Governor (Larry Hogan) is supposed to speak here at 4pm. According to dh’s friend (whose wife is a school principal) he is going to close all schools. 

I’m so stressed out about France.

 

I’m sorry, I’d be stressed too.

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51 minutes ago, Joker said:

Can't link right now but is it true that Disneyland was given an exemption from the large gatherings ban? 

I just don't get the stupidity if true. 

Yep.  I saw on CNN.  Also movie theatres etc.  cancelling private events and leaving those places open doesn’t make much sense.  

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17 minutes ago, Quill said:

I’m so stressed out about France.

I feel your stress.  I just want to get my boy home. I need to quit reading this thread, but I also feel like I need to be informed.  But there's nothing I can do, either his plane flies on Monday or it doesn't. I think the stress is having a child in a foreign country.

I am overwhelmed with FUD. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt. 

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46 minutes ago, Arcadia said:


https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-california-disneyland-closures-governor-newsom-covid/

“ANAHEIM (CBSLA/AP) – Disneyland and other large theme parks will not required to comply with California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s order against large gatherings to counter the spread of COVID-19.

Newsom said California public health officials issued an updated policy saying “non-essential” gatherings such as sporting events, concerts and conferences should be postponed or canceled until at least the end of March.

At a news conference Thursday, Gavin said Disneyland and other large theme parks, theaters and casinos are exempted from his order against gatherings of 250 people or more due to coronavirus due to the “complexity of their unique circumstances”, but discussions remain ongoing”


My ds who works for The Mouse figures one of these evenings before long, after park close, they will finally make an announcement and just not reopen the next day. For now attendance is probably low due to the rainy weather.  But then again, all those college kids whose classes are cancelled wouldn't let a little rain stop them from going to the parks!  

I can't believe a youth musical I'm involved with is going on as planned this weekend. I figure attendance will be so low that the audience can spread out and distance themselves appropriately! 

 

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36 minutes ago, mom2scouts said:

Most schools in our area have planned spring break in the next several weeks. Our governor just announced that all K-12 schools have a mandatory 3 week spring break starting Monday. Colleges have already been closed. My poor homeschooled kids are still going to have school. Everything is being cancelled and we'll be stuck at home, so we might as well get some work done!

Yes, lots of upcoming spring breaks everywhere! I was talking specifically about colleges, though. (This thread is moving really fast!) 

UGA and several others are out this week and then Georgia State and Georgia Southern and several more are out next week. Apparently, a lot of UGA students are also from the Atlanta area, which is where we have the highest concentration of cases. If they don't extend or cancel spring break, I'm concerned they're going to end up with a ton of cases in a few weeks. I also don't want to see them bring cases into the dorms only to spread it around and then as cases inevitably pop up decide to suspend classes and send all those kids home, potentially many of which could asymptomatic carriers.

Of course, suspending classes comes with its own set of problems. There's just no easy answers to this situation. But the curve has to be flattened, and that's going to mean hard choices.

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5 minutes ago, lewelma said:

I feel your stress.  I just want to get my boy home. I need to quit reading this thread, but I also feel like I need to be informed.  But there's nothing I can do, either his plane flies on Monday or it doesn't. I think the stress is having a child in a foreign country.

I am overwhelmed with FUD. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt. 

Feeling so much for all the WTM mums with kids in other countries right now.  Hoping they all make it home safe and soon.

 

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Just now, lewelma said:

I feel your stress.  I just want to get my boy home. I need to quit reading this thread, but I also feel like I need to be informed.  But there's nothing I can do, either his plane flies on Monday or it doesn't. I think the stress is having a child in a foreign country.

I am overwhelmed with FUD. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt. 

Your son is at MIT? Does he have a place to go while figuring out his next step? We aren’t in Boston but not *too* far away if he needs a temporary place...

Im sorry you and he are in this position. DS is thinking about going to school in the UK, so I can only imagine... 😞

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2 minutes ago, square_25 said:

I'm so sorry. That's very stressful :-(. 

It seemed so reasonable 2 days ago to pick a Monday flight.  But things are moving fast.  NZ has no current cases -- the 5 we had have recovered. So I don't think Trump with ban flights to NZ, and NZ would not ban the flights, just require self-quarantine. I am more worried that United and AirNZ will cancel flights for lack of travellers. 

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One thing I’m wondering.  How strong is our internet going to be?  If more and more service move online is it likely to get overloaded?  I know in my area (semi rural) on weekends or evenings when everyone’s home it already gets really slow.  I can imagine if everyone’s locked down and trying to school and work online it will probably just fall over.  

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1 minute ago, Ausmumof3 said:

One thing I’m wondering.  How strong is our internet going to be?  If more and more service move online is it likely to get overloaded?  I know in my area (semi rural) on weekends or evenings when everyone’s home it already gets really slow.  I can imagine if everyone’s locked down and trying to school and work online it will probably just fall over.  

I never even thought of that! Such a good question!

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Just now, lewelma said:

It seemed so reasonable 2 days ago to pick a Monday flight.  But things are moving fast.  NZ has no current cases -- the 5 we had have recovered. So I don't think Trump with ban flights to NZ, and NZ would not ban the flights, just require self-quarantine. I am more worried that United and AirNZ will cancel flights for lack of travellers. 

I think from some stuff I’ve seen they have to keep a certain number of flights running if they want to continue to own rights to fly that route?

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/airport-slots-ghost-flights/index.html

hopefully this means that they will keep flying for a bit.

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2 minutes ago, MEmama said:

Your son is at MIT? Does he have a place to go while figuring out his next step? We aren’t in Boston but not *too* far away if he needs a temporary place...

Im sorry you and he are in this position. DS is thinking about going to school in the UK, so I can only imagine... 😞

Yes, he is at MIT and has been told to leave by Tuesday.  Thanks for the offer!  Actually, 2 other boardies in Boston have also been in touch too. 

DS is finishing classes tomorrow, then packing on Saturday, boxes picked up on Sunday, flight on Monday.  

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From WaPo live updates. 

With 5 cases of COVID-19 in Ohio and very few people tested so far, I've assumed we have extensive community transmission. But this estimate--potentially more than 100,000 people in our state--blows me away.

While I disagree with Governor DeWine on most issues, his announcement on closing K-12 schools and banning gatherings over 100 people is exactly the kind of leadership we need right now. And it's none too soon.

Ohio officials believe more than 100,000 people in the state carry coronavirus, underscoring limited testing

Ohio officials said Thursday that more than 100,000 people in the state are believed to carry the novel coronavirus, reinforcing fears that infections are far more widespread in the United States than limited testing confirms.

“We know now, just the fact of community spread says that at least 1 percent, at the very least 1 percent of our population is carrying this virus in Ohio today,” said Amy Acton, director of the Ohio Department of Health.

Ohio has just five confirmed cases of the virus and several dozen cases under investigation, Gov. Mike DeWine (R) said Thursday. But authorities there have been alarmed by evidence of community transmission and are taking drastic new steps to slow the coronavirus’s spread, including banning mass gatherings and closing all schools for at least three weeks.

The “extended spring break” set to begin Monday will affect more than a million students. Many schools throughout the country have closed amid coronavirus fears, but authorities have been reluctant to enact such a dramatic measure statewide.

Officials count more than 1,000 cases of coronavirus in the United States. But experts warn that this number does not capture the true extent of the spread, especially because efforts to test for the virus have run into glitches and critical delays.

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7 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

One thing I’m wondering.  How strong is our internet going to be?  If more and more service move online is it likely to get overloaded?  

My WiFi service has been cranky this morning at the community college campus and when using our personal hotspot. Many in my area are working from home and four local community colleges are switching to fully online starting March 16th. I won’t be surprised if internet outages happen next week.

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3 minutes ago, lewelma said:

Yes, he is at MIT and has been told to leave by Tuesday.  Thanks for the offer!  Actually, 2 other boardies in Boston have also been in touch too. 

DS is finishing classes tomorrow, then packing on Saturday, boxes picked up on Sunday, flight on Monday.  

I hope it all goes well with his flight. I’m sure you can’t wait to have him home. ((Hugs))

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6 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

BNO: Disneyland in California will close due to coronavirus, only the 4th time in the park's history - NYT

 

LOL -- And I'm learning about it from someone in Australia?!! (I'm the mom whose ds works there. He may still be working, though as he does lots of maintenance work after park hours.)

ETA got the text from my ds just as I clicked "submit"

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3 minutes ago, JennW in SoCal said:

 

LOL -- And I'm learning about it from someone in Australia?!! (I'm the mom whose ds works there. He may still be working, though as he does lots of maintenance work after park hours.)

ETA got the text from my ds just as I clicked "submit"

Lol who learned it from a backyard news service in the Netherlands or wherever... funny world we live in.

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27 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

One thing I’m wondering.  How strong is our internet going to be?  If more and more service move online is it likely to get overloaded?  I know in my area (semi rural) on weekends or evenings when everyone’s home it already gets really slow.  I can imagine if everyone’s locked down and trying to school and work online it will probably just fall over.  

True. We dont have great internet under the best of conditions. 

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More on Maryland 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-dc-maryland-coronavirus-news-thursday/2020/03/12/77d178ce-6410-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Suspending prison visits contributed to riots in Italy.  Although I understand why it’s necessary.

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1 hour ago, square_25 said:

At this point, all that matters is HOW MANY people you come in contact with. 

I absolutely see the point about highway rest stops, though. I didn't think of that. 

Except if soneone with the virus comes through a rest stop or gas station & sheds the virus, you can pick it up there (some % of possibility anyway) even if you aren't physically in the space with them at the same time.

I agree on the fact that it is wide-spread already, just that we don't all need to be traveling around & spreading it more. I'm against peope in my community driving to Big City for state championship basketball games & then bringing back more people who have likely been exposed to the virus. So, yes, I'm absolutely against travel. Stay home!

(And now I'm heading to the grocery store, so yeah, I realize that makes me a bit of a hypocrite. But it is a block from me.)

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Update from Israel: 

109 cases, including a 6-month old baby, an 18mo ,and a couple of elementary school kids.  As of yesterday, gatherings of over 100 people are banned.  That includes weddings, synagogues, etc.  As of tonight, public schools are closed until mid-April.  My husband's university is delaying their start by one week and then going exclusively online.  Testing is far more available than in the US but obviously insufficient; the government says that testing will increase 4X over the next few days.  The emergency services are rolling out some sort of telemedicine option to try to keep non-urgent patients out of the hospitals.  

Jewish law gives enormous priority to not endangering human life and the Orthodox religious establishment here -- which I am normally no great fan of, I hasten to add -- is really stepping up to reinforce the Health Ministry's dictates through its own authority.  It is not yet clear how synagogues are going to handle the 100 person limit, not least of all because on Shabbat technology is prohibited, but the religious authorities are being just as insistent as the secular government authorities that these rules must be followed.  

We rented a car today to go do a big shopping run at a large supermarket and it was busy -- as is typical for a Thursday -- but not insane.  A few folks were wearing masks and they were offering gloves at the door (I was one of the few who took a pair).   There were sale displays of tuna fish and sanitizers but still seemed to be plenty in stock.

My kids were/are in school here for the first time after being homeschooled all their lives, so it's a little nuts that school is now being cancelled because of a global pandemic, but here we are.  We are going to reorganize our rented apartment tomorrow to make it more usable for DH to work at home and for the kids to homeschool.  At least I brought our math books, although apparently DS12 left his in his locker at school, sigh.  Theoretically the schools are supposed to set up some sort of distance learning but I'll believe it when I see it.  

We are also supposed to get a massive storm beginning tonight with 60mph winds, dust clouds, and severe flooding, so things are feeling a little apocalyptic here in the Holy Land.

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

Bno:

Maryland and Ohio will close all public schools from Monday due to coronavirus

MD has also closed the port of Baltimore to cruise ships.  He's also banning all gatherings of more than 250 including religious services.   Non essential Gov't employees are required to telecommute.  

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3 more confirmed cases in Las Vegas. We added 3 yesterday as well. All cases involved travel, with 2 being close contacts of someone who traveled. They haven't released information about the 3 new cases from today. In other news, we currently have an international construction expo going on with 130,000 visitors to the city. Our mayor is mad at the press for killing our economy. And many are getting laid off or their hours cut which diminishes their health insurance coverage because of so many conference cancellations. All of the casinos and the airport are stepping up their cleaning regimen. Our school district shut down all travel plans, but that's it. The higher ed system will be moving to all online in early April. Things are going to get even more brutal here before long. The good news is SPAM is back in stock everywhere. We have a lot of happy Hawaiians in the area. 🤙

UPDATE: Just read

LAS VEGAS – Three new coronavirus cases in Nevada include a  New York woman in her 40s who attended a large conference on the Las Vegas Strip.

The hospitalized patient attended the Women in Power Summit from March 5-8 at the Mirage. She had been exhibiting symptoms of COVID-19 during her travels to Las Vegas, according to the Southern Nevada Health District.😡

The health district said it is working with the Mirage and organizers of the summit to inform attendees and identify people who came in close contact with the individual. 

There were more than 1,000 registered attendees. Officials are investigating if the woman visited any other properties on the strip.

“We want to know every single detail about where she had been during those days,” said Fermin Leguen, district health officer for the Southern Nevada Health District.

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
March 11, 2020

 
 

LAS VEGAS – The Southern Nevada Health District is reporting three new presumptive positive COVID-19 cases, bringing the total to five cases in Clark County. All investigations are ongoing and additional information will be provided as it becomes available. Based on current information, close contacts of these individuals are being identified or have been notified and are following self-quarantine procedures. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention defines a close contact as someone who was within approximately 6 feet of a confirmed COVID-19 case for a prolonged period of time. Close contact can occur while caring for or living with someone. Health care workers who care for patients are also at higher risk.

New Case Updates

  • A female in her 40s who was hospitalized on March 8. She is isolated and in stable condition. This individual is a visitor from New York. She arrived in Las Vegas on March 5, and attended the Women of Power Summit at The Mirage. The Health District is working with the facility and conference organizers to inform attendees and to identify close contacts of this individual.
  • A male in his 60s who is isolating at home and is a close contact of a previously reported case.
  • A female in her 70s who is isolating at home and is a close contact of a previously reported case.

Previously Reported Case Updates

  • A male in his 50s with a travel history to Washington state. The patient remains hospitalized in serious condition.
  • A female in her 70s with underlying medical conditions with in-state travel history to Reno, Nev., and no out-of-state or international travel history. The patient was asymptomatic while traveling. The patient remains hospitalized in serious condition.

If a patient’s travel history dictates a notification to passengers that are not Clark County residents, this is determined and coordinated through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The Health District is reminding the public that flu and other respiratory illnesses are circulating in Clark County. It is understandable that people who are sick may want to be tested for COVID-19. However, not everyone who feels ill needs to be tested. Health care providers or the Health District determine who should be tested based on an individuals specific symptoms and circumstances. People who have mild symptoms such as a cough or fever should stay home and away from other people.

The Health District is working with its health care and community partners to ensure there are strong public health measures in place to respond to COVID-19 in the community. Updates about COVID-19 are also available by calling the Health District’s Information Line at 702-759-INFO(4636) or 1-866-767-5038.

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2 minutes ago, JennyD said:

Update from Israel: 

109 cases, including a 6-month old baby, an 18mo ,and a couple of elementary school kids.  As of yesterday, gatherings of over 100 people are banned.  That includes weddings, synagogues, etc.  As of tonight, public schools are closed until mid-April.  My husband's university is delaying their start by one week and then going exclusively online.  Testing is far more available than in the US but obviously insufficient; the government says that testing will increase 4X over the next few days.  The emergency services are rolling out some sort of telemedicine option to try to keep non-urgent patients out of the hospitals.  

Jewish law gives enormous priority to not endangering human life and the Orthodox religious establishment here -- which I am normally no great fan of, I hasten to add -- is really stepping up to reinforce the Health Ministry's dictates through its own authority.  It is not yet clear how synagogues are going to handle the 100 person limit, not least of all because on Shabbat technology is prohibited, but the religious authorities are being just as insistent as the secular government authorities that these rules must be followed.  

My kids were/are in school here for the first time after being homeschooled all their lives, so it's a little nuts that school is now being cancelled because of a global pandemic, but here we are.  We are going to reorganize our rented apartment tomorrow to make it more usable for DH to work at home and for the kids to homeschool.  At least I brought our math books, although apparently DS12 left his in his locker at school, sigh.  Theoretically the schools are supposed to set up some sort of distance learning but I'll believe it when I see it.  

We are also supposed to get a massive storm beginning tonight with 60mph winds, dust clouds, and severe flooding, so things are feeling a little apocalyptic here in the Holy Land.

 

 

 

Stay safe there 

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This did make me smile amidst the crazy this morning.

“That every supermarket is sold out of pasta, tinned tomatoes and olive oil reinforces my belief that the only thing quite a lot of Australia knows how to cook is spaghetti bolognese.” 

we eat spag bol at least once a week.  At least - my version which no decent Italian person would recognise.

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16 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

BNO: Disneyland in California will close due to coronavirus, only the 4th time in the park's history - NYT

 

12 minutes ago, JennW in SoCal said:

 

LOL -- And I'm learning about it from someone in Australia?!! (I'm the mom whose ds works there. He may still be working, though as he does lots of maintenance work after park hours.)

ETA got the text from my ds just as I clicked "submit"

 

The hotels will stay open til Monday. Downtown Disney staying open

https://disneyland.disney.go.com/travel-information/

“Update on Disneyland Resort Operations

While there have been no reported cases of COVID-19 at Disneyland Resort, after carefully reviewing the guidelines of the Governor of California’s executive order and in the best interest of our guests and employees, we are proceeding with the closure of Disneyland Park and Disney California Adventure Park, beginning the morning of March 14 through the end of the month.

The Hotels of Disneyland Resort will remain open until Monday, March 16 to give guests the ability to make necessary travel arrangements; Downtown Disney will remain open. We will monitor the ongoing situation and follow the advice and guidance of federal and state officials and health agencies. Disney will continue to pay cast members during this time.

Disneyland Resort will work with guests who wish to change or cancel their visits, and will provide refunds to those who have hotel bookings during this closure period. We anticipate heavy call volume over the next several days and appreciate guests’ patience as we work hard to respond to all inquiries.”

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1 minute ago, square_25 said:

Fun fact: we were planning to go to Europe this summer to do tourist stuff and to see my family. We were planning to go to England, France, Israel, and Ukraine. This is the FIRST YEAR of my marriage I've requested fun travel (not simply seeing family, not going to one of DH's conferences) in the summer. 

I'm feeling a bit bitter...

You and I can cry and scream together. Dh and I were supposed to go to Scotland and France this year for our 25th. First time I'd have ever been overseas. *sigh* 

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4 hours ago, Quill said:

I thought that was not true if you have filters on your air handler. 

Gosh!  I think my $100 filters (yes you read that right) are going to be some good then.

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21 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Now...no March Madness at all.

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Thanks for posting this. DS has been waiting to hear if his championship was going to be cancelled, so I guess this answers the question. I understand why they did it, but I am so sad for all the kids who have worked and trained and sacrificed all year to make it to an NCAA Championship, and won't get to compete  (especially the graduating seniors, who will never have another chance). 😟

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21 minutes ago, square_25 said:

Fun fact: we were planning to go to Europe this summer to do tourist stuff and to see my family. We were planning to go to England, France, Israel, and Ukraine. This is the FIRST YEAR of my marriage I've requested fun travel (not simply seeing family, not going to one of DH's conferences) in the summer. 

I'm feeling a bit bitter...

We were going to Europe in May in part to visit my children's ailing 83-yr-old grandmother, who has been desperate to see the kids. It's seeming less and less likely that she will ever see them again, which totally breaks my heart. 😥

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It will be interesting when all this is over to see the impact of different government policies on the spread.  Seems like right now it is individuals companies, universities, schools, etc who are choosing to close, but there is no coordinated government response at the local, state, or national level. The article that someone posted a few pages back was very very good at explaining the data science and the impact of policy.   

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

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34 minutes ago, RootAnn said:

Except if soneone with the virus comes through a rest stop or gas station & sheds the virus, you can pick it up there (some % of possibility anyway) even if you aren't physically in the space with them at the same time.

I agree on the fact that it is wide-spread already, just that we don't all need to be traveling around & spreading it more. I'm against peope in my community driving to Big City for state championship basketball games & then bringing back more people who have likely been exposed to the virus. So, yes, I'm absolutely against travel. Stay home!

(And now I'm heading to the grocery store, so yeah, I realize that makes me a bit of a hypocrite. But it is a block from me.)

 

I think we need to phrase that as avoid unnecessary travel.  

We don’t want to use up emergency items yet, so I think keeping up with groceries is still important.

 

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