Jean in Newcastle Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, TCB said: Does any one in Canada know if pastors are being reported for something right now? I'm assuming it is something to do with Covid. My church just posted on FB about praying for Canadian pastors who are being reported by people watching the service they are streaming. I tried googling but only came up with information about Feb 21 and May 21. Would love more information about what is going on, if anything. I really dislike these kinds of prayer requests (which I last heard in May). It assumes religious persecution when really it's just about public health. 13 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Starr said: It could be they are being reported for not following the province regulations for Covid. It's not hard online to see if too many people are in a space, if masks are being worn appropriately, social distancing, singing etc. I'm sure that is probably what they are talking about. Not sure what I mean or how to ask it, but are the regulations laws, in other words are they required by law to follow them? Do you know if the regulations change according to the Covid situation at the time, and do they stop the churches from meeting completely, or just mean that they have to alter what they are doing a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said: I really dislike these kinds of prayer requests (which I last heard in May). It assumes religious persecution when really it's just about public health. Me too! I am trying to figure out what's involved because I want to ask the church about what they mean with this prayer request. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, TCB said: Me too! I am trying to figure out what's involved because I want to ask the church about what they mean with this prayer request. I had heard about a missionary from somewhere in Africa (can't remember the country, sorry) getting arrested when he came back to Canada. That too was couched as religious persecution but the facts seemed to indicate that he had tested positive and didn't quarantine. So not persecution at all. But I don't remember when this was and I haven't seen any actual news sources on this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadie Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Website to order 4 free at-home Covid tests rolled out a day early-- https://www.covidtests.gov 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said: I really dislike these kinds of prayer requests (which I last heard in May). It assumes religious persecution when really it's just about public health. Feels like being asked to pray so that people can get away with cheating on their taxes or drunk driving or something. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 hours ago, TCB said: I'm sure that is probably what they are talking about. Not sure what I mean or how to ask it, but are the regulations laws, in other words are they required by law to follow them? Do you know if the regulations change according to the Covid situation at the time, and do they stop the churches from meeting completely, or just mean that they have to alter what they are doing a bit? Ok I jumped to conclusions too quickly. It was not to do with Covid but some other law that is being passed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Oh, the closer we get to school going back (a week) the more nervous I'm.getting. We don't yet have a plan. Following UK, Canada, US because you're all back already, but it's not looking encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said: Oh, the closer we get to school going back (a week) the more nervous I'm.getting. We don't yet have a plan. Following UK, Canada, US because you're all back already, but it's not looking encouraging. It’s going to be such a mess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said: It’s going to be such a mess. In NSW, they are talking about parents supervising classes while the (sick?) teacher presents the curriculum from home. How is this even an idea?! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said: In NSW, they are talking about parents supervising classes while the (sick?) teacher presents the curriculum from home. How is this even an idea?! Rolling around on the floor laughing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said: Rolling around on the floor laughing Ikr? The same parents who have to be at work, mind you, which is why it's important we babysit for them even when we're coming down with Covid. Somehow they can be at work but also supervising a Year 6 class? It's just bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaelAldrich Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 42 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said: In NSW, they are talking about parents supervising classes while the (sick?) teacher presents the curriculum from home. How is this even an idea?! That happened here with each surge. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocolate-chip chooky Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 6:17 PM, bookbard said: I think I had an anxiety attack today - I was convinced I either had Covid or cardiomyopathy from the booster. I am feeling completely normal now. It's just that I can't 'just stay home' - I work with the public 6 days a week, and now school is on hols, the kids come with me wherever I go. Yes, we can stay distant, wear masks, use air purifiers, but I still have to remind people daily to put the mask on (it's in their hand), pull the mask up (it's over their chin), and even then some refuse. There's only so much I can do. I totally understand the people who are saying 'just want to get it over with' . . . obviously I don't want to get it, but this everyday looking over your shoulder is just so anxiety-provoking. Anytime one of my kids says they're not hungry or they're tired or whatever, that's it, I am freaking. It's exhausting. @bookbard How are you going? I've been thinking about you. I can absolutely relate to how you are feeling. I'm exhausted from the constant worry and constant decision making. PM me if you want to have a vent or cry or laugh or chat 🌻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The UGT2A1/UGT2A2 locus is associated with COVID-19-related loss of smell or taste https://www.nature.com/articles/s41588-021-00986-w “Abstract Using online surveys, we collected data regarding COVID-19-related loss of smell or taste from 69,841 individuals. We performed a multi-ancestry genome-wide association study and identified a genome-wide significant locus in the vicinity of the UGT2A1 and UGT2A2 genes. Both genes are expressed in the olfactory epithelium and play a role in metabolizing odorants. These findings provide a genetic link to the biological mechanisms underlying COVID-19-related loss of smell or taste. … Our study has several limitations. First, while our study was large in scale, it was biased toward individuals of European ancestry and lacked a replication cohort. Second, we relied on self-reported case and symptom status; replication within a cohort with clinical ascertainment could be beneficial. Third, given that loss of smell or taste were combined in a single survey question, we cannot further disentangle these two symptoms. Loss of smell without loss of taste may be distinct from loss of both or loss of taste without loss of smell. Given this, it is unclear if our findings relate more strongly to one symptom or the other.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 News from down here today Most states are bringing boosters forward to three months. Pfizer has said they will have their omicron specific booster by March. I guess if they can get most Australians through third doses in Jan/Feb by the time the new one is out and available down here there will be enough of a gap? Still not keen for another round and many people saying the same here - the third booster made them feel as bad or worse than the second and they’re not keen to see what the fourth does. Even DH he usually bounces very quickly from stuff like that was fatigued for days afterwards. Case numbers are fairly stable in SA maybe even trending down slightly. Initially they reported 6 deaths then revised to three so no idea what’s with that. There seems to be testing available. Tonnes of people we know currently have or have had it. Most of the ones who have been more sick have been in the 50-65 year old male demographic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 As far as I can make out it’s 64 deaths Australia wide today. Specific numbers from ABC in case any non Aus people are interested. Cases seem to be stabilising but hospitalisations still climbing a bit. NSW: 32 deaths and 32,297 cases; 2,863 people in hospital, including 217 in ICUs. Watch the press conference here. Victoria: 18 deaths and 20,769 cases; 1,173 people in hospital, including 125 in ICUs. Watch the press conference here. Tasmania: 1,185 new cases. 29 people in hospitals, including two in ICUs Queensland: 11 deaths and 19,932 cases; 835 people in hospitals, including 52 in ICUs. Watch the press conference here. ACT: 1,467 new cases. 60 people in hospitals, including five in ICUs SA: 3 deaths and 3,482 cases; 294 people in hospital, including 23 in ICUs. Watch the press conference here NT: 418 cases; 48 people in hospital. Watch the press conference here WA: 2 cases. Watch the press conference here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Hong Kong are telling people to cull pet hamsters after discovering they could carry covid and someone got infected by one. This seems pretty tragic 😞 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said: Hong Kong are telling people to cull pet hamsters after discovering they could carry covid and someone got infected by one. This seems pretty tragic 😞 Also rabbits and chinchillas. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocolate-chip chooky Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said: Also rabbits and chinchillas. If these are pets, how are they catching Covid in the first place? At the vet? From a pet sitter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, chocolate-chip chooky said: If these are pets, how are they catching Covid in the first place? At the vet? From a pet sitter? This does a good job of explaining it, I think. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-19/hong-kong-s-hamster-cull-excessive-unjustified-experts-say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Is there a risk of spread via mice then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 It seems unlikely that house pets would get it without the humans already being infected. I could understand not adding NEW house pets who might have been exposed in a shop, but not killing existing pets. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60047438 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Jean in Newcastle said: This does a good job of explaining it, I think. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-19/hong-kong-s-hamster-cull-excessive-unjustified-experts-say Reminds me of killing the cats during the plague. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, ktgrok said: Reminds me of killing the cats during the plague. You mean the cats who killed the rats who carried the plague? *wry* 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Dmmetler said: It seems unlikely that house pets would get it without the humans already being infected. I could understand not adding NEW house pets who might have been exposed in a shop, but not killing existing pets. The Hong Kong order was for hamsters bought after December 22nd. https://amp.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3163942/coronavirus-hong-kong-hamster-cull-commences “Seven hamsters, accounting for about 20 per cent of those sold at the Little Boss pet shop in Causeway Bay, returned a positive result when tested for the coronavirus. At least three cases, including the shop employee who was carrying the Delta variant of the virus, have been confirmed infected. According to health authorities, the cull order applies to all hamsters bought in Hong Kong after December 22. About 2,000 hamsters and other small animals are subject to the order, with authorities saying they would be tested and “humanely handled” before they are killed.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said: Is there a risk of spread via mice then? I thought I read at least one article that said that Omicron could have been incubated in mice (and then passed back to humans). Here's one: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34954396/ Actually, this research suggests this is the most likely origin. We already know that most of the North American deer herd has been infected, as well as all those mink in Denmark and a weird host of zoo animals (tigers and hippos!). So, this virus seems very... non-selective! I am not killing my cats if we get covid. Nope. Edited January 19, 2022 by Matryoshka 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Arcadia said: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60047438 Desperate bid for popularity with his own party, by Prime Minister in trouble for breaking the lockdown rules he himself put in place. Edited January 19, 2022 by Laura Corin Typo 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith-manor Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Michigan has averaged 17,202 cases per day for each of the five last days. We didn't really get over the delta surge before getting hammered with omicron. I don't know how HCW's continue to marshall onward, but I fear that so many of them will have absolutely wrecked health when we finally see this subside. 😭 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Super good to know Covid-caused supply issues are being fixed for us by the PM suggesting children can drive forklifts. 3 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 https://apple.news/A67amJSlnTaOzolslSbfjyA 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Melissa Louise said: Super good to know Covid-caused supply issues are being fixed for us by the PM suggesting children can drive forklifts. Every single time he opens his mouth more nonsense falls out. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Tiggywinkle Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Matryoshka said: I thought I read at least one article that said that Omicron could have been incubated in mice (and then passed back to humans). Here's one: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34954396/ Actually, this research suggests this is the most likely origin. We already know that most of the North American deer herd has been infected, as well as all those mink in Denmark and a weird host of zoo animals (tigers and hippos!). So, this virus seems very... non-selective! I am not killing my cats if we get covid. Nope. Two of my dogs have been sneezing this week and sleeping more than normal. I wonder if we gave them Covid. Even if we pass it back and forth I’m not killing them, so maybe we’re just stuck with Covid now for a while. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said: Every single time he opens his mouth more nonsense falls out. National Cabinet squashed Scottie's plan. Poor Scotty. Lucky kids! Driving a forklift requires skill, and can be v dangerous! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said: National Cabinet squashed Scottie's plan. Poor Scotty. Lucky kids! Driving a forklift requires skill, and can be v dangerous! There was a workplace accident just on Tuesday in Victoria where the forklift operator was killed 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said: There was a workplace accident just on Tuesday in Victoria where the forklift operator was killed Honestly, knowing that just makes the fact he raised it worse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said: There was a workplace accident just on Tuesday in Victoria where the forklift operator was killed Yes I’ve seen too many videos where people have been trapped under stuff they were trying to move. Unfortunately probably not that different to kids driving farm tractors etc I guess which happens though. Plenty of call-outs with tractor accidents as well 😞 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 it seems like quite a lot of Scotty’s ideas got squashed thankfully. Maybe the state leaders are waking up to things a bit. situation is kind of stagnant here still 11 deaths in SA which is the highest so far and more than the first year and a half 3,777 cases. 290 in hospital and 29 in ICU. Apparently 15pc are presenting with other things the rest are for Covid admissions. 892 cases in ACT. 62 in hospital 3 in ICU. 30,825 and 25 deaths for NSW. 2,781 in hospital. 212 in ICU. 21,966 in Vic 15 deaths and 1,206 in hospital. 122 in ICU. 459 in NT and 54 in hospital 1 in ICU 927 for TAS 14 in hospital and 3 in ICU. WA has five and are still seeing some local cases pop up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 There was supposed to be a school plan out of Nat Cab today, but there wasn't. Six days till we go back. They're cutting it fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith-manor Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Wait, the PM thinks kids can drive forklifts???? Oy! My dad had a forklift for his business. Each of his operators took a special class and then only operated with his supervision until they had proven themselves. The office manager wasn't allowed to touch that thing! So.damn.stupid. I swear politicians, regardless of nation of origin, are some of the dumbest, most evil, pond scum, pus spewers on the planet! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadie Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Interesting account of reporter Caroline Chen's experience visiting family in Hong Kong. After multiple Covid tests and a 21-day quarantine, she emerges to a city with universal masking and a zero infection policy. https://www.propublica.org/article/i-saw-firsthand-what-it-takes-to-keep-covid-out-of-hong-kong-it-felt-like-a-different-planet 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Has anybody watched the National Geographic ‘The First Wave’ documentary? https://www.nationalgeographic.com/pages/topic/the-first-wave-documentary We had nothing as bad as New York and what is portrayed in the film, but I was in tears for most of it. So many memories of the types of feelings we experienced. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Tang Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 8:21 PM, Mrs Tiggywinkle said: Two of my dogs have been sneezing this week and sleeping more than normal. I wonder if we gave them Covid. Even if we pass it back and forth I’m not killing them, so maybe we’re just stuck with Covid now for a while. I remember when I had a pet rabbit as a child, we were told it could get a cold from a human. Yeah, I am not euthanizing my dog, either. My mental health is suffering enough, and my dog is my therapy sometimes. I think a lot of humans feel that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, TCB said: Has anybody watched the National Geographic ‘The First Wave’ documentary? https://www.nationalgeographic.com/pages/topic/the-first-wave-documentary We had nothing as bad as New York and what is portrayed in the film, but I was in tears for most of it. So many memories of the types of feelings we experienced. I can only watch it a bit at a time and process it because I also cry through the whole thing. If you have a Roku it’s free on National Geographic or ABC, it’s also on Hulu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 @TCB, are you not at peak hospitalizations again? My neighbor works the ICU covid floor and things are rough here. We’re not back to mobile morgue, but people board in the ER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, prairiewindmomma said: @TCB, are you not at peak hospitalizations again? My neighbor works the ICU covid floor and things are rough here. We’re not back to mobile morgue, but people board in the ER. We are really busy in the ICU but not as many Covid as a month or so ago. We had a really bad Delta wave and Omicron is only getting going here. All around us schools are closing etc because of it, but it hasn’t gotten that bad here yet. Hospitals in the whole state are crazy busy and things are stretched really thin. Not sure if we have it to come, or if we have more immunity from our months of Delta. Our vax rate is about 45% so not great. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith-manor Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Michigan update: 33,000+ over two days. The general consensus is that it has not peaked yet (though we have had days much higher than this), and of course deaths are lagging. The prediction is another three to four weeks left in this surge. I am weary. We are planning a LOT of outdoor, travel, road trip, great landscapes vacations and sailing, lots of sailing. This winter is just frigid and icy. Worse than any of the last five winters, bowling winds, very little blue sky. We haven't been able to do any of our winter sports activities so by the time spring comes, we are going to be stir crazy. Our new, first road trip will include, Badlands, Theodore Roosevelt National Park, Black Hills again, Custer State Park, and Agate Fossil Bed National Monument. We have decided to wait and do Yellowstone in the fall after school resumes. May 1st might be too chilly for the boys to do any longer trails since they prefer not to hike in parkas and heavy gear. I spend a lot of time planning out every aspect just to keep myself distracted. Edited January 23, 2022 by Faith-manor 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 He wanted to lower the age to 16plus. Anastasia did her press conference in a warehouse with forklifts in the background yesterday apparently 😆 glad she’s still got a sense of humour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Gah I typed out all the case numbers and lost it. Basically we do seem to be on the other side of the peak here for the minute though it remains to be seen what school does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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