Ausmumof3 11,121 Report post Posted October 17 For some reason ds seems to struggle with understanding power laws in algebra (using aops). We’ve gone over it a few times and different ways and we seem to get it temporarily and then next time he sees them it’s like a mental blank again. We’re near the end of the year now and have mostly taken this year off of forward progress to get more solid on the basics but I really want to get moving again next year (8). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites

Servant4Christ 2,563 Report post Posted October 17 (edited) I just googled "algebra power laws" to jog my memory and yep, I'm no help at all. I remember Algebra 1 clearly now as the one class that tarnished my otherwise really good highschool GPA (I did very well in Algebra 2 so maybe it was just the teaching style). When DS actually gets that far in homeschool, I'm either going to have to sit down and learn it with him or break my "no outsourcing" rule. Hopefully one of the really awesome mathy moms on here will chime in with advice which I will absolutely bookmark for future use 😀 Edited October 17 by Servant4Christ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites

square_25 719 Report post Posted October 20 I think like most things, it's best to just let kids do things the way that make sense to them until they memorize the ideas. If he sees 2^4*2^6, what would he do? Would it help to tell him to rewrite it as a product of a bunch of 2's and see what happens (as opposed to, say, calculating both)? Would practicing this a bunch without requiring memorization for now help? It might just take a while to get down while keeping it logical. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites

lewelma 13,894 Report post Posted October 20 I get my tutor kids to convert all powers into multiplication. They do this for numbers and for variables for at least a month while learning the rules. We love to have a giggle about "please let it not be (x^10)^100". haha. But I just have them write them all out for how ever long it takes them to realize that powers are just repeated multiplication. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites

daijobu 3,954 Report post Posted October 22 I'm also one who uses the definition of exponents to rewrite an expression as multiplication. As many times as it takes, sometimes months. I find that it's when the student wants to rush to the answer without thinking that mistakes are made. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites

LMD 7,711 Report post Posted October 22 If it's aops pre algebra, ch 2 is notoriously brutal! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites

Lang Syne Boardie 36,052 Report post Posted October 22 On 10/20/2019 at 12:16 AM, lewelma said: I get my tutor kids to convert all powers into multiplication. They do this for numbers and for variables for at least a month while learning the rules. We love to have a giggle about "please let it not be (x^10)^100". haha. But I just have them write them all out for how ever long it takes them to realize that powers are just repeated multiplication. I do this, too. Also, I like to make posters and create recitations for algorithms. Visual aids and mnemonics help students over those stuck moments. For powers, I would include rules for the basic four operations, for negative numbers and exponents, and for bases and exponents of zero and one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites

Monica_in_Switzerland 10,062 Report post Posted October 25 I agree with everyone else. Students have had somewhere between 5 and 8 levels of arithmetic with four operations before hitting exponents, so they just don't feel natural the way the other four operations do (even though, yes, they are just the next step). My son has been having ZERO issues with exponents for months now, in chapter 11 of AOPS Algebra. And then, today, he simplified (x+y)^2 as x^2 +y^2 🤦♀️ . It just happens; the brain hiccups sometimes. Yesterday, he'd expanded the same binomial all the way out to the 7th power, as a discovery route to Pascal's triangle, and had no issues. Then today, this. 😩 We went over it, he got it, we moved on. I like to remind myself that PreA, Algebra, and puberty all tend to coincide in a sort of perfect storm of frustration for homeschool mothers. Every time the brain hiccups, set up a simpler example or have him write it out as a full-on multiplication problem (for things like power to a power means multiply, and base to a power times base to a power means add the powers, etc.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites