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It is time for me to be checked.  I have no family history of breast cancer or indicators to be concerned about and I am small breasted.

What have you chosen and why?

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Keep in mind that a thermagram only gives you indication of where there is elevated heat in the body.  If it shows elevated heat in your breasts, you will still need to get a mammogram and possibly an ultrasound to determine if it's a tumor. 

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People I know who do thermagram also get an ultrasound.  It is hard to find a dr who will do ultrasound only.

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2 hours ago, Mbelle said:

  It is hard to find a dr who will do ultrasound only.

 

I am getting a normal mammogram for one side and ultrasound for the other side which has a lump. That’s the two choices offered at the breast care lab situated at the medical center we go to. 

I have no idea about thermogram versus mammogram but I do find this FDA article informative https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm257499.htm

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I have held off on getting annual mammograms because I don’t want to expose my breasts to the radiation.  I’d prefer a thermogram, but since my insurance doesn’t cover it, I went ahead and with my 2nd mammogram this fall mostly because of Quill and a lady at church recently diagnosed with breast cancer.  I was just thinking about it this morning though and I don’t know if I will get one annually or just every few years.  The people I know in real life who have breasts cancer, the cancer was not found during their annual screening.  In fact, some were found a month or so after getting a clean mammogram report.  The people I know found their cancer from either feeling or seeing a lump on or near their breast.

My dr and I discuss this each year, because of course her recommendation is to get one every year.  She has admitted that she has only had one patient where breast cancer was found during their annual mammogram and that particular patient never did self checks (that she was aware of anyway).

So, I’m interested in reading what others have decided as well.

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I am fine with thermography. Once a baseline is established, changes - if any - can be observed. This is what naturopath recommended.

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I am going to have to think about this.  No one has offered thermograph.  But I also am really not sure I want to do mammograms every year.  I get so many xrays because of all my various types of arthritis- new one added this week and I have been getting a lot of xrays all my life due to injuries, pneumonias, etc,. etc

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On 1/22/2019 at 6:57 AM, itsheresomewhere said:

FYI-  more people without a history are finding out they have breast cancer.  Don’t rule out having one based on no family history of it. 

 

My biopsy came back as cancerous cells even though there is no family history and I have close to a hundred relatives across three generations.

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Sorry to hear that, Arcadia.

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I’m sorry that it turned out to be cancerous. Gads. Hang in there.

For others who may read this thread and wonder about mammograms, I wanted to point out that most (all?) mammograms are now digital, and use a “fraction” of the radiation of the old ones. I don’t have specific numbers, but it is lower. Most dentists have also upgraded to digital xrays as well.

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I am having a hard time finding a clinic willing to perform a mammogram on me while I am nursing my baby so I am considering doing a QT ultrasound scan. The drawback is that it is $600 and not covered by insurance.

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Sorry for the bad report, @Arcadia

I was going to say, whatever you do, do the low-tech method regularly - manual self-checks. This is how I found mine and ultrasound was where it showed up, not mammogram. It is barely detectable on mammogram; even my surgeon said this. I am supposed to get MRIs from now on. (Which, BtW, I really dislike!) 

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I'm sorry, Arcadia.  That is hard news.  Big hugs to you.

 

I just had a diagnostic mammogram and was told everything was fine but then my doctor highly recommended I get a breast MRI (not covered by insurance) because my breasts are so dense.  

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1 hour ago, Kassia said:

I'm sorry, Arcadia.  That is hard news.  Big hugs to you.

 

I just had a diagnostic mammogram and was told everything was fine but then my doctor highly recommended I get a breast MRI (not covered by insurance) because my breasts are so dense.  

Can you get an ultrasound instead? I did haveto pay ~$400 for the u/s, but insurancecovered most of my MRI because I had already been identified as cancerous by the biopsy (which followed the u/s). I have very dense breasts, too. You cant see diddly on mymammogram because of this. 

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4 hours ago, SusanC said:

Sorry to hear that, Acadia.

 

2 hours ago, Quill said:

Sorry for the bad report, @Arcadia

 

1 hour ago, Kassia said:

I'm sorry, Arcadia.  That is hard news.  Big hugs to you.

 

Thanks.  Just had my nurse appointment for preliminary information. Would know more what follows next week after surgeon and oncologist appointments. My hormone receptor results aren’t good and it’s a good thing I am not on birth control pills/implant.

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13 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

 

 

 

Thanks.  Just had my nurse appointment for preliminary information. Would know more what follows next week after surgeon and oncologist appointments. My hormone receptor results aren’t good and it’s a good thing I am not on birth control pills/implant.

Update us when you can. So sorry. 

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14 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

 

 

 

Thanks.  Just had my nurse appointment for preliminary information. Would know more what follows next week after surgeon and oncologist appointments. My hormone receptor results aren’t good and it’s a good thing I am not on birth control pills/implant.

We need a wider range of emojis for situations like this. I'm glad to be updated, not happy to hear about the hormone receptors (although I have only an outsider's understanding), sympathetic about the wait to see specialists, I'm even a little concerned about how much will be covered by insurance and how much will be out of pocket (I know that is way outside my boundaries, I've just been burned by insurance in the past.) So, all that and I hope you have a nice Friday night.

 

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2 minutes ago, SusanC said:

 I'm even a little concerned about how much will be covered by insurance and how much will be out of pocket (I know that is way outside my boundaries, I've just been burned by insurance in the past.) 

 

I understand. My husband say not to worry and just use up the HRA (health reimbursement account). He says our maximum out of pocket for the year is $6k. 

I’m now at McDonald’s buying dinner and then taking Uber back home. 

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2 hours ago, Quill said:

Can you get an ultrasound instead? I did haveto pay ~$400 for the u/s, but insurancecovered most of my MRI because I had already been identified as cancerous by the biopsy (which followed the u/s). I have very dense breasts, too. You cant see diddly on mymammogram because of this. 

 

I was told after the diagnostic that I didn't need the u/s because they were confident that everything looked okay.  But I've been told many times that I have extremely dense breasts (at one mammogram I was told I had the densest breasts they had ever seen).  My doctor wants me to have the MRI, though.  I have other health issues that I have to deal with so I am going to postpone the MRI decision.  

 

 

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2 hours ago, Arcadia said:

 

I understand. My husband say not to worry and just use up the HRA (health reimbursement account). He says our maximum out of pocket for the year is $6k. 

I’m now at McDonald’s buying dinner and then taking Uber back home. 

Just wanted to let you know that there's some good support here, people who have gone through it and are very knowledgeable about the process. It's where I turned to when I first found out too.

 

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1 hour ago, crazyforlatin said:

Just wanted to let you know that there's some good support here, people who have gone through it and are very knowledgeable about the process. It's where I turned to when I first found out too.

 

Thanks. All I know so far is that mine is the invasive ductal carcinoma. I would know more next week. I read Quill’s thread and Hornblower’s thread when they posted. Is there a WTM social support group as I can’t seem to find one? 

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16 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

 

Thanks. All I know so far is that mine is the invasive ductal carcinoma. I would know more next week. I read Quill’s thread and Hornblower’s thread when they posted. Is there a WTM social support group as I can’t seem to find one? 

There could be one? I think you should create a new thread bc yours is hidden in here. I saw this thread a few days ago and didn't open it until tonight. When I went through this 3 years ago I just posted questions bc I didn't know how to proceed and didn't want to share it with anyone IRL. 

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46 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

 

Thanks. All I know so far is that mine is the invasive ductal carcinoma. I would know more next week. I read Quill’s thread and Hornblower’s thread when they posted. Is there a WTM social support group as I can’t seem to find one? 


  so sorry to read your news that you're joining us in this sucky club 

I don't know of a wtm support group though we could start one. I'm active on www.breastcancer.org forums &  I know some other people from this board are there too. PM me for my board name there if you want to join and connect there. 

 (((Hugs)))

OP & others - btw, 80-85% of women diagnosed with bc have no family history.  

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20 minutes ago, hornblower said:


  so sorry to read your news that you're joining us in this sucky club 

I don't know of a wtm support group though we could start one. I'm active on www.breastcancer.org forums &  I know some other people from this board are there too. PM me for my board name there if you want to join and connect there. 

 (((Hugs)))

OP & others - btw, 80-85% of women diagnosed with bc have no family history.  

And diagnosed even with BRCA negative. Arcadia, I was on breastcancer.org; they were so helpful, just can't remember my username at this point. 

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Chiming in here to say that I'm one of the club, too, and wish Arcadia the best.  It's great to see Hornblower here!  

My biggest complaint, and I don't really allow myself to complain much, since my bc journey has been mostly somewhat uneventful, is that the stoopid aromatase inhibitors make me feel 15 years older. Everything aches.  I'll hit one year on them in a month, and I may go back to tamoxifen and stay on that instead.  

Best wishes and lots of love and good thoughts for all who have had a rough go with their treatment!

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