Forget-Me-Not Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 8 hours ago, shawthorne44 said: Someone mentioned their DH took the CPAP camping. That was a HUGE benefit for me. DH used to love primitive camping, in fact he taught primitive camping at Boy Scout camp. Now DH needs a electrical outlet when camping (happy sigh). You probably don’t want to know that you can buy portable battery packs for them . . . 🤐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 9 hours ago, alisoncooks said: My DH's cpap is very quiet. And it's not a full faced mask, just "nose pillows." Maybe those with bad experiences should lobby to try something different? I will say, when DH's machine isn't set to the right level, he will snore with it on. And his mouth will fall open and the air rushes out like a wind tunnel. But when all is set correctly, it's very, very quiet. This is my story, word for word. I thought they were all quiet nowadays? I guess not. If anyone gets a loud one, I’d suggest asking for a quieter one and seeing why they gave you the loud one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Matryoshka said: I'd love to ask a follow-on question to this. My dh has snored our whole marriage, and he used stay asleep and but roll over if I poked him, but more recently he's been harder to move and if he actually wakes up he gets ornery. He also sounded more and more apnea-y, so he finally agreed to get a sleep study and they gave him a CPAP. That thing was loud. And sounded like it was trying to drown him with air all night. I think we both got less sleep, rather than more. I would also have had to get earplugs or something, but since he wasn't sleeping well with it either, he gave it back. So then he tried one of those tennis ball shirts - tennis balls didn't work well, but some floral foam blocks have done the trick fairly well. He doesn't snore much at all if he's properly on his side. But might he still be getting apnea if he's not snoring? Now I'm a bit worried. If he's not snoring much on his side, should I still worry? My SIL has what she says is BiPAP, I think? She said that worked better for her than the CPAP. Do all of your dhs really have CPAPs, or one of those? She called it a CPAP until we asked her about his experience and she clarified. Was his broken? Why was it so loud and why did it seem like it was drowning him with air? Changing the pressure did nothing - it would ramp right back up. After his experience, I can't imagine anyone actually sleeping better with one of those... ETA: not sure if it makes any difference, but thought I should add that dh's snoring has nothing to do with weight. .. he's gone up one inch in waist size since we got married, to a 33... My husband has a CPAP, it’s pretty quiet, he’s been using 3-4 years now. He has two different masks, the one that just shoots air into his nose is a lot quieter than the face mask. But it dries out the skin around his nose and can get irritating. The full mask makes an air rushing noise, it isn’t terribly loud, but is loader than the nose only mask. Both remind me of a white noise machine. Definitely talk to the place where he buys his supplies and see if they can get a different, quieter set up. Edited January 11, 2019 by Rachel Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 And yes, just because he isn’t snoring doesn’t mean he doesn’t have sleep apnea. Snoring is just a common sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caedmyn Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 My DH's is through the VA so I doubt it's a top-of-the-line one. He tried a nose-only mask once but I guess it didn't work for him because he gave up on it immediately. I have no idea how he can sleep with the thing on but he loves it. He'll even put it on if he's just lying in bed reading for a while. He had severe sleep apnea though so I suppose it's a big improvement for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scholastica Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 20 hours ago, Matryoshka said: I'd love to ask a follow-on question to this. My dh has snored our whole marriage, and he used stay asleep and but roll over if I poked him, but more recently he's been harder to move and if he actually wakes up he gets ornery. He also sounded more and more apnea-y, so he finally agreed to get a sleep study and they gave him a CPAP. That thing was loud. And sounded like it was trying to drown him with air all night. I think we both got less sleep, rather than more. I would also have had to get earplugs or something, but since he wasn't sleeping well with it either, he gave it back. So then he tried one of those tennis ball shirts - tennis balls didn't work well, but some floral foam blocks have done the trick fairly well. He doesn't snore much at all if he's properly on his side. But might he still be getting apnea if he's not snoring? Now I'm a bit worried. If he's not snoring much on his side, should I still worry? My SIL has what she says is BiPAP, I think? She said that worked better for her than the CPAP. Do all of your dhs really have CPAPs, or one of those? She called it a CPAP until we asked her about his experience and she clarified. Was his broken? Why was it so loud and why did it seem like it was drowning him with air? Changing the pressure did nothing - it would ramp right back up. After his experience, I can't imagine anyone actually sleeping better with one of those... ETA: not sure if it makes any difference, but thought I should add that dh's snoring has nothing to do with weight. .. he's gone up one inch in waist size since we got married, to a 33... My Dad had a CPAP for a while and it was a little loud and didn't work as well as it should have. He recently switched to a BiPAP and it works much better. Another consultation with the sleep specialist is probably in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawthorne44 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Forget-Me-Not said: You probably don’t want to know that you can buy portable battery packs for them . . . 🤐 Shush! Don't tell anyone, or the word might get back to him. I don't really need electricity, but I do need at least three fluffy pillows, so I need the close proximity of the car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I believe some sort of snoring pillow exists now. I just saw an add for one. Would he try one? What if you hid his regular pillow? I might it a bit irrational if someone took MY pillow. I’m emotionally attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutingmom Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I agree on pushing for the sleep study. My dh was diagnosed with sleep apnea when there were problems from what should have been a day-surgery and they kept him overnight; whenever he would fall asleep, the oxygen level alarm would go off! But he needed a sleep-study for treatment... and it was a roughly 3 year waiting list. So we waited and waited. Near the end of the 3 years.... my husband would fall asleep constantly. He would be sitting cutting onions, and in the middle of cutting he would stop because he was asleep. He would fall asleep in the middle of talking to you... mid sentence... HIS! His sleep study night arrived... they said he had the worst sleep-apnea they had ever seen. (I don't remember the numbers....) He is not ever to sleep without his machine because the risk of dying is huge for him. He has a BiPap machine, with Oxygen added. It is fairly quiet, but has a slight darth-vader in/out noise, but quiet. Occasionally the machine got really noisy... it generally needed servicing. I now also have a CPap. My sleep study showed a sleep-disorder that is not sleep-apnea but is treated the same. I have wondered if my settings are just right (the settings were determined over a 1 week stretch... where I was over-due for a couple of days, then post-partum. I still remember the phone call as they assessed my results... "Did you know you wake up about every 2 hours for 30 minutes or so?" (Breastfeeding a newborn...) The nose-mask takes getting used to. I Also had to train myself to keep the mouth closed while I slept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawthorne44 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 A 3-year waiting list? That is insane. Where do you live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutingmom Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 13 hours ago, shawthorne44 said: A 3-year waiting list? That is insane. Where do you live? Canada Note that that was 15 (18) years ago... It was horrible seeing him get worse and worse that 3rd year. When I was trying to get referred (stupid doctor wouldn't refer me) he said it was a 1 year to 18 month wait list.... That was about 10-12 years ago. When I did get the referal, I was placed as super-high priority and had the test after about 2 weeks. My ob/gyn had refered me for a pre-surgery assessment just in case (there was a few risk factors). It was almost amusing... they would ask a question that could factor into a surgery, and my truthful answer was almost always the one that would be a concern. Anyway, they asked sbout any sleep disorders, I answered that I was sure that I had one but couldn't get a referal.... and as I said, within 2 weeks I had the sleep study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Before my husband got his sleep apnea machine, we started really having problems in our marriage and family, to the point that looking back I don't even know how we thought we were ok. I finally started sleeping on the couch, and at least I was no longer angry and crazy..... After the machine there was an immediate turnaround in my husband as well. It didn't just affect our mood and tempers, but even our decision making seems questionable to me. There were some decisions made at that time that when I look back I really think that severe sleep deprivation was to blame. You're going to have to sleep on the couch, and make sure the living room is quiet, free of light (get blackout curtains) and get yourself some sleep. Your husband also needs to do something but good luck convincing someone who is also sleep deprived to make a good decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 PS it took my husband only about 4 days to get used to the machine! He hated hated the idea of a pillow mask on his nose, and it was super annoying but then when he started getting decent sleep, he was overjoyed. Also, you get used to those kinds of things eventually. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Calming Tea said: Before my husband got his sleep apnea machine, we started really having problems in our marriage and family, to the point that looking back I don't even know how we thought we were ok. I finally started sleeping on the couch, and at least I was no longer angry and crazy..... After the machine there was an immediate turnaround in my husband as well. It didn't just affect our mood and tempers, but even our decision making seems questionable to me. There were some decisions made at that time that when I look back I really think that severe sleep deprivation was to blame. You're going to have to sleep on the couch, and make sure the living room is quiet, free of light (get blackout curtains) and get yourself some sleep. Your husband also needs to do something but good luck convincing someone who is also sleep deprived to make a good decision. 6 minutes ago, Calming Tea said: PS it took my husband only about 4 days to get used to the machine! He hated hated the idea of a pillow mask on his nose, and it was super annoying but then when he started getting decent sleep, he was overjoyed. Also, you get used to those kinds of things eventually. I've heard many stories similar to yours. Many people wondering why they had not acted sooner and relishing improved sleep (for both partners). Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) On 1/10/2019 at 11:00 AM, Seasider too said: So, he goes to bed early and I lose access to plinking around in the master bedroom (laundry folding, reading with the light on, straightening dresser drawers, beauty regimens in the master bath). And then, partly because he is also the type that likes to tell me goodbye every time he leaves the house - which is of course very sweet - he sometimes wakes me up to say goodbye, or I’m just woken too early by his alarm clock or the lights and sounds of him moving around the room to get dressed for the day. I can relate to this except that I go to bed before my husband and some days he also gets up earlier than I do. So I get the moving around in the room as he goes to bed and again in the morning when he gets up. Now we have a dog so you add in the dog's clinking and whimpering. 😃 OP, definitely encourage your dh to get himself checked for apnea. What pushed my dh to do it was that I had such a horrible migraine from lack of sleep I was vomiting and in horrible pain and they did a CT to look for a blood clot. It was my first migraine. Also, as mentioned upthread, it was good for him. He was always tired. He still doesn't sleep great (see next comment about moving around a lot--it is a joke in his family that they have sleep curse), but it is much better than before. Someone upthread mentioned their husband moves around a lot in bed also--my husband does too. If we had money and space a king sized bed might fix that but it's not in the cards for now. Edited January 17, 2019 by cintinative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 OP a cpap machine may not be the only solution to prevent snoring. One of my friends has a mouth guard from her dentist that pushes her lower jaw forward to prevent snoring. I’m not sure if that is an option but maybe your husband can explore the idea with his dentist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 9:45 AM, shawthorne44 said: Someone mentioned their DH took the CPAP camping. That was a HUGE benefit for me. DH used to love primitive camping, in fact he taught primitive camping at Boy Scout camp. Now DH needs a electrical outlet when camping (happy sigh). my husband brings his CPAP camping. He has a marine battery that he can use to power it. You probably didn't want to know that though. 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistyMountain Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Yea I do wonder if things will improve if he fixes the sleep issue. I have recently seen something about mouth guards that can be molded and it changes the jaw shape enough to prevent snoring. He used to have a mouth guard for tooth grinding and he stopped using it and ended up grinding down his teeth. I am not sure if it stopped his snoring too because this was before we were married and I think the ones designed to prevent snoring may be newer. I also saw from this social media thing on kids and mouth breathing that getting tonsils out can also prevent it in some people. He is a mouth breather at night too. Like others mentioned he also uses his computer in the middle of the night if he wakes up which wakes me up every time and I have to tell him to put it under the covers at least and he falls asleep shortly after hitting the pillow. Edited January 17, 2019 by MistyMountain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, MistyMountain said: Yea I do wonder if things will improve if he fixes the sleep issue. I have recently seen something about mouth guards that can be molded and it changes the jaw shape enough to prevent snoring. He used to have a mouth guard for tooth grinding and he stopped using it and ended up grinding down his teeth. I am not sure if it stopped his snoring too because this was before we were married and I think the ones designed to prevent snoring may be newer. I also saw from this social media thing on kids and mouth breathing that getting tonsils out can also prevent it in some people. He is a mouth breather at night too. Like others mentioned he also uses his computer in the middle of the night if he wakes up which wakes me up every time and I have to tell him to put it under the covers at least and he falls asleep shortly after hitting the pillow. My husband went to a sleep dentist this year and she had him fitted for a mouthpiece. We aren't sure what to call it exactly. It is supposed to help with grinding but also airway issues. He still wears his CPAP. They call it "oral appliance therapy." http://kbennettsleepapnea.com/faqs#how-does-it-work How does the appliance work? It works by advancing the mandible forward, and helps to lift the base of the tongue away from the posterior wall of the pharynx. It helps stop oral snoring by reducing the vibration of the soft palate and uvula. It does not improve nasal snoring. What are the advantages of the appliance? The biggest advantage is the ability to sleep without being connected to the CPAP machine and mask. It is small and extremely portable, fully adjustable, and fits well. It is excellent for patients who travel. Unlike surgery, the appliance is not invasive nor irreversible. The side effects are minor and are easily tolerated by most patients. Most patients find the appliance much easier to use than the CPAP. Compliance with the appliance is high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaFrank20 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) The main reason for snoring and stopping breathing during sleep (apnea) is that during sleep, the patient's muscle tone of the tongue, soft palate, uvula, pharynx decreases. It can even be the result of nightmares in some cases. I bumped into this problem with dreams. Now I feel blessed that I met Amanda while surfing the article about bees in dreams. Not only the article was interesting and moved me to some conclusions,but I also found there Amanda. She is a real eye-opener for me. Edited August 1, 2020 by CarolinaFrank20 sharing experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Husband has a new model CPAP and it's silent. I use Spark Plugs earplugs when necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrips Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Have you tried wearing decent ear plugs and using a white noise machine? Both help in muting the snoring from personal experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Old thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Pen said: Old thread. Maybe the OP will have an update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math teacher Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I know this is an old thread, but I have to reply. I spent years trying to win against dh's snoring. Now we have separate bedrooms, and it is the best thing ever. My marriage is not hurting and everybody sleeps at night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 54 minutes ago, Math teacher said: I spent years trying to win against dh's snoring. Now we have separate bedrooms, and it is the best thing ever. My marriage is not hurting and everybody sleeps at night. Me, too, and I'd never go back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I haven't read other replies. Hammock. I made mine sleep on the couch until he was willing to wear something. We use Snore RX, $60 at Walgreens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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