Skippy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I am sure this has been discussed before. Both my writing program and my grammar program teach James's. But I like James' and teach it that way. Which way do you prefer to teach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I use the former. Never came up in teaching DD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xahm Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, OKBud said: I teach them you can do either, but you must do it the same way within each piece of writing. I personally do both as the mood strikes. Exactly this. It's a matter of preference; just be consistent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underthebridge Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 James’s. It looks odd, but it is grammatically correct, as in St James’s Park of London. And the more you use it, the less odd it looks! And we do say both ‘s’ sounds in James’s, so it reflects the pronounciation. I believe the exception is when the final s is not pronounced, so it would be Albert Camus’ writings. Or the writings of Albert Camus to avoid the issue altogether. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet2ndchance Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 We have a mom and pop grocery store in town called James' Super Saver. They spell it with the apostrophe but without the additional s. It is locally referred to as just James' (/james-is/ as in the possessive pronunciation) It has never struck me as wrong but I've never really put a lot of thought into it either. But as the others have said either is correct as long as you are consistent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 DD has to decide on whether she's going to use the s's or s' for a name in one of her books. We've had these very discussions. She's leaning toward s's even though in her case you don't pronounce both ses. (Example: say a guy's name is Trucks. Trucks's or Trucks') 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 According to my Rod and Staff English handbook: Quote When singular nouns ending with an s or z sound have only one syllable or have the accent on the last syllable, add 's. But if the last syllable is unaccented, add only an apostrophe. This rule prevents awkwardness in pronunciation. spouse's rights James's letter Moses' brother Lazarus' death Bernice's room Lopez' presidency ABeka's handbook is slightly different: Quote To form the possessive case of a singular noun, first write the singular spelling of the word. Then add an apostrophe and s ('s.) woman's shoe; cat's paw; Muir's writings; Hertz's answer; Burns's poems; Richards's novel; Charles's theory. Exception: The following may be correctly writen by adding the apostrophe only: (1) Ancient proper names ending in -es, (2) the name Jesus; and (3) such expressions as "for conscience' sake:" Socrates' pupil; Pericles' role; Aristophanes' comedies; Moses' rod; Jesus' birth; for righteousness' sake; for conscience' sake; for goodness' sake. *I* would write "James's," partly because that's how I actually pronounce it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 10 hours ago, underthebridge said: James’s. It looks odd, but it is grammatically correct, as in St James’s Park of London. It is funny that you bring up this particular example because there is a St James's Park of London and a St James' Park in Newcastle (a stadium). So apparently there is a big controversy over which is correct. http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/articles/2008/05/30/st_james_apostrophe_feature.shtml 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2att Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 The second, and I have actually taught it because ds has a name that ends in s. So we have Thaddeus's rather than James's. But same idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivey Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I was taught James' in school, but have taught my kids that either is fine as long as you're consistent. My son James prefers James's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbelle Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I married a man with last name ending in double S. His family would say all those isses. I do not do it. I just do one s'. I teach my kids my way! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lecka Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I definitely learned the second. My maiden name ended in an s so I know how I was taught. But I don’t think it is a big deal. I see the other way frequently, and I know some people do not like how the extra “s” looks. As far as how the word is pronounced — it depends on who is saying it! For my maiden name, people say it with or without the extra s. Some people will emphasize the second syllable without totally adding the possessive s, but they are changing the stress and it’s clear it means possessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historically accurate Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I prefer no s after the apostrophe, so that is how I voted. But I teach either is acceptable as long as it is consistent throughout the document. FWIW, my brother, whose name ends in s, prefers no s after the apostrophe as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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