LiPs

[MistyMountain]

I am thinking of getting LiPs to do with my youngest but what do I need to implement it besides the manual? There is a huge kit but do I need all that? Is the older edition easier to implement then the newer one? It seems hard to implement but since it needs a speech therapist I am not sure I can really get it tutored. Any advice from those that used it. 

Edited August 10, 2018 by MistyMountain

[Kanin]

When I do LiPS with a student, I use:

Manual

Letter tiles

Mouth pictures

Personally, I don't like magnetic letters/tiles, so I never use those - just use tiles on a table. You do need a mirror, but it can be any mirror that's big enough for a child to see his/her whole mouth, like a hand-held bathroom mirror. I have an 8-inch-ish one that stands up on the table that's nice. I never did the step with the colored tiles to represent sounds, but if you do, you could just use colored paper squares or buy some colored felt and cut it up.

 

 

[Kanin]

About teaching it - I didn't find it hard, and I don't have a speech background. I did take a while to read through parts of the manual, and re-read, to let things soak in. The first couple lessons were a little stressful, but once I got used to it, it was fine. You can do it! ? 

[ElizabethB]

You can get mouth pictures for free!  Make a version without letters by printing 2 versions and cutting the letters off one version.

https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Speech-Sound-Cue-Cards-Freebie-2196455

You can also see the sounds being made in both side view and lip view, that is helpful for some of my students.  On some computers you can see it on screen, some you have to buy the app but it is cheap.

http://soundsofspeech.uiowa.edu/index.html#english

Basically, mouth pictures and some letter tiles and some make your own squares out of different colored construction paper, or you could use jelly beans or anything, really, for that step that shows the squares.  They don't have a step for mouth pictures with a letter combined, but since my free mouth pictures come with one, I use that as a step, too, and it seems to work well.  

It was intimidating at first but not that bad once I started using it, and I don't have a speech or linguistics background.

So, all you really need to buy is the manual, currently $42 for a used copy.

It is very scripted, but very long, but once you start using it you can see what you need to do and what you can skip, and if it isn't clicking after skipping something, just go back and do it all.

https://www.amazon.com/Lindamood-Phoneme-Sequencing-Program-Spelling/dp/0890797536/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1533973876&sr=8-1&keywords=lindamood

Edited August 11, 2018 by ElizabethB

[PeterPan]

The LIPS faces show from the side to allow the breath to distinguish the production groupings. So consider for isntance the pickle you get into with /m/, /n/, and /ng/, which look radically different from the front but are all hummers (nasals) for LIPS purposes and shown with a nose picture rather than lips even. 

I have a set of the older style clings someone sent me and might be able to get my lazy bones out to mail them if someone needs them. https://www.proedinc.com/Products/13608/lips--fourth-edition-mouth-picture-magnets.aspx Pro-Ed has the magnets for $27 with 10% shipping, meaning $30 total. They'll enhance the resale value of your kit, meaning you'll probably get at least half that back, and they're very nicely made. http://ganderpublishing.com/product/lips-mouth-picture-magnets-15.asp Gander has them for $27 and in August you can get free shipping with code FREESHIP818

If the dc is young, you might like actual letter magnets. I used this set https://www.lakeshorelearning.com/products/language/phonics-word-building/classroom-magnetic-letters-kit/p/LC926 I did this because I actually wanted him to build the phonograms (ch, etc.) and not just see them as chunked tiles and not realize the individual components. Obviously Barton and LIPS use phonogram tiles with them already written out. Just for him, while I was teaching the concepts, I wanted to use individual letters. He was 5/6 at the time. 

18 hours ago, Mainer said:

When I do LiPS with a student, I use:

Manual

Letter tiles

Mouth pictures

I agree. I have a deck of the LIPS cards they sell, but we never used them. I could see where some people would. If you want bare bones, you want the manual, the mouth pictures, and something for letter tiles. I had the Barton tiles *and*  the single letter alphabet magnets, so we were building them and later used tiles. Roll with your judgment there. 

[MistyMountain]

Can I use newer mouth pictures with the older edition manual? It says 4th edition mouth clings. Which edition is easier to follow? I was about to give back my earlier Barton level but I can keep them for the tiles. I was using the tiles app because it was easier then setting them up every day. 

[PeterPan]

The pictures on the clings and magnets are basically the same, just the magnets are snazzier and in color. If you're going for the magnets, yes they'll work with your manual and you'll like having them. If you have the clings and want to attach them to something, they're fine too.

Yes, absolutely blend. With my ds, the more ways the better. If you want just the tiles from the Barton, can you buy a set and sell/return the rest? Whoever purchased the level originally can buy more tiles for it from Barton. I've always bought a couple extra sets when I bought my Barton levels, just to have the tiles when I sold the kits.

We went through the process of setting up the board, files, letters every day, but the reason was to get it all into his head and organized. Once you have that (or if you don't need that), then yeah apps are way more convenient. 

[Kanin]

I had a set of cheap plastic letter tiles that I loved- the vowel tiles were yellow. I'm not sure who makes them, but I thought it was helpful for my students to really focus on the vowels since they're a different color.

[ElizabethB]

18 hours ago, Mainer said:

I had a set of cheap plastic letter tiles that I loved- the vowel tiles were yellow. I'm not sure who makes them, but I thought it was helpful for my students to really focus on the vowels since they're a different color.

You have to be careful with this, though.  I made a UPP with vowels colored blue, and another with vowels black, and many of my students found the blue vowels distracting and  said it made it harder to read and learn.  There was only one student who found it helpful, and it was harder to make than all black font.  

The black UPP was helpful for a few of my students, but not that much more than just my regular teaching, so I haven't added anything to it lately, but here it is, a special font to help reading I made called UPP:

https://www.thephonicspage.org/On Reading/upp.html

 

[Kanin]

4 hours ago, ElizabethB said:

You have to be careful with this, though.  I made a UPP with vowels colored blue, and another with vowels black, and many of my students found the blue vowels distracting and  said it made it harder to read and learn.  There was only one student who found it helpful, and it was harder to make than all black font.  

The black UPP was helpful for a few of my students, but not that much more than just my regular teaching, so I haven't added anything to it lately, but here it is, a special font to help reading I made called UPP:

https://www.thephonicspage.org/On Reading/upp.html

 

Thanks, I never thought about it being distracting. I'll have to check with each kid! ?

 

[ElizabethB]

I found a new option today that you might like, it looks like a nice supplement to LiPS.

Word builder app.  It looks really good!!

http://www.readingdoctor.com.au/word-builder/

I also like his word burger analogy for phonemes, graphemes, and letters, scroll down to about halfway down the page:

http://www.readingdoctor.com.au/phonological-awareness-phonemes-phoenicians-phonics/

Here is a video of the word builder app, he's Australian but it also has a U.S. pronunciation option.  The app includes both sounds and mouth positions.

 

Edited August 13, 2018 by ElizabethB

[caedmyn]

I just bought the manual and copied the mouth pics and vowel sounds from the manual and then laminated them.  I didn't use letter tiles as my student was most of the way through Barton 1 when we did LiPS and as far as I could tell from looking at the manual he could already do what LiPS was dojng with the letter tiles...he just needed to be able to distinguish the sounds.  

[Guest]

19 hours ago, ElizabethB said:

I found a new option today that you might like, it looks like a nice supplement to LiPS.

Word builder app.  It looks really good!!

http://www.readingdoctor.com.au/word-builder/

I also like his word burger analogy for phonemes, graphemes, and letters, scroll down to about halfway down the page:

http://www.readingdoctor.com.au/phonological-awareness-phonemes-phoenicians-phonics/

Here is a video of the word builder app, he's Australian but it also has a U.S. pronunciation option.  The app includes both sounds and mouth positions.

 

Too bad I didn't know about this a few years ago. It would have made a cool additional resource to Jolly Phonics! Or is it new?

[ElizabethB]

1 hour ago, Moved On said:

Too bad I didn't know about this a few years ago. It would have made a cool additional resource to Jolly Phonics! Or is it new?

I have no idea how long it's been around.  I just came across his word burger on my twitter feed a few days ago and googled the website.  

[ElizabethB]

On August 13, 2018 at 7:18 PM, caedmyn said:

I just bought the manual and copied the mouth pics and vowel sounds from the manual and then laminated them.  I didn't use letter tiles as my student was most of the way through Barton 1 when we did LiPS and as far as I could tell from looking at the manual he could already do what LiPS was dojng with the letter tiles...he just needed to be able to distinguish the sounds.  

That is brilliant!!  I may do that if I have another student who needs ones with the breath.  My current student is older and the free to print ones are working very well.