MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Here's a video of a piglet eating her first grape ever. https://youtu.be/HGFomezpJoY You're welcome. :) Now, vote! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Marmalade Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Cuter than I was expecting! Too bad cute little pigs grow into not as cute big pigs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Cuter than I was expecting! Too bad cute little pigs grow into not as cute big pigs. Not as cute, maybe, but still just as personable! :) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Whatever. :ohmy: (Thanks for your vote. ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamonlyone Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The smacking noises and baby talk give me the nails-on-a-chalkboard feel. But the pig is cute! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 The smacking noises and baby talk give me the nails-on-a-chalkboard feel. But the pig is cute! It's funny--I can't stand it when people make smacking noises, but I love listening to animals eat. And I'm a sucker for Southern accents. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisoncooks Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Adorable...but if anyone were making that noise at my dining table, they'd be getting the stink eye. (I'm looking at you, DH.) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Totally adorable. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaillardia Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Might be a little bit cuter and I would not vote indifferent if he were down on the floor (he actually belongs on the GROUND) and the video was on his level. I held a piglet once. Mama Pig wanted to kill me and piglet peed hot pee all over me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Cuter than I was expecting! Too bad cute little pigs grow into not as cute big pigs. They grow into beautiful pigs like Esther the Wonder Pig 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 stars for this thread! :hurray: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) Adorable. I love animals. Except snakes. :) Years ago, ds did a market hog for 4H and this reminded me how cute our Porker was. Pigs are surprisingly smart. They have the most adorable, floppy ears and ours loved it when we scratched him behind the ears. We never fed him a grape though... Edited November 9, 2017 by Liz CA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbridgeacademy Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Love pigs, we had pet potbellies on our hobby farm when I was a kid. I'm a sucker for ALL baby animals though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica_in_Switzerland Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 That's some pig. I voted cute. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 stars for this thread! :hurray: Thanks, Cat!! :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 That's some pig. :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Adorable. I love animals. Except snakes. :) Years ago, ds did a market hog for 4H and this reminded me how cute our Porker was. Pigs are surprisingly smart. They have the most adorable, floppy ears and ours loved it when we scratched him behind the ears. We never fed him a grape though... They are super smart! Professor Donald Broom at Oxford University said that they “have the cognitive ability to be quite sophisticated. Even more so than dogs and certainly three-year-olds.†I've read that they learned to play video games as quickly as chimpanzees (and were more interested in the games!) And here's an interesting paper that shows that they: Have excellent long-term memories Understand symbolic language Have a sense of time, remember specific episodes in their past, and anticipate future events Are excellent at navigating mazes and other spatial tasks Play creatively Live in complex social communities and easily distinguish other individuals, both pigs and human Have an understanding of the perspective of others as shown in their ability to use tactical deception Are emotional and exhibit empathy Show a form of self-recognition and self-agency in their abilities to manipulate joysticks and use mirrors to find food Have distinct personalities I :001_wub: pigs. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The smacking noises and baby talk give me the nails-on-a-chalkboard feel. But the pig is cute! Me too. Not the baby talk - the eating sounds. I have misophonia and should have known better than to click...but baby pig!!! I had my fingers jammed in my ears at the first sound. :-( 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkie Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I had pigs as a kid and absolutely love them. They are such intelligent and interesting creatures. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertstrawberry5 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I love piglets. I mean. The noses. Really. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2scouts Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 They are super smart! Professor Donald Broom at Oxford University said that they “have the cognitive ability to be quite sophisticated. Even more so than dogs and certainly three-year-olds.†I've read that they learned to play video games as quickly as chimpanzees (and were more interested in the games!) And here's an interesting paper that shows that they: Have excellent long-term memories Understand symbolic language Have a sense of time, remember specific episodes in their past, and anticipate future events Are excellent at navigating mazes and other spatial tasks Play creatively Live in complex social communities and easily distinguish other individuals, both pigs and human Have an understanding of the perspective of others as shown in their ability to use tactical deception Are emotional and exhibit empathy Show a form of self-recognition and self-agency in their abilities to manipulate joysticks and use mirrors to find food Have distinct personalities I :001_wub: pigs. That makes me feel really guilty about the bacon I ate yesterday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewellsmommy Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Adorable! You would be hard-pressed to find an animal that I don't find adorable :lol: . Rodents, reptiles, amphibians, mammals, birds...I love them all. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) That makes me feel really guilty about the bacon I ate yesterday. I understand, but, really, all animals have the capacity to suffer, so I feel guilty about eating the not-as-smart ones, too. I'm guessing that doesn't make you feel any better, though. ;) ETA: Not preaching, just commiserating. Edited November 9, 2017 by MercyA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Adorable! You would be hard-pressed to find an animal that I don't find adorable :lol: . Rodents, reptiles, amphibians, mammals, birds...I love them all. Yep, me too. And you can often find my daughter cooing over lizards and snakes and baby talking to spiders. Her life ambition is to have a goat farm. She loves their mischievousness! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage81 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 It's funny--I can't stand it when people make smacking noises, but I love listening to animals eat. I'm this way too! My dog loves to eat apple pieces and it makes me giggle every time he crunches on one. The pig in the video kind of reminded me of that. :001_wub: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Squeeee! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 How did I miss this yesterday? I was having a cranky day, and this would have made me happier! I LOVE.LOVE.LOVE little pigs. They are on my list of top fave baby animals. :001_wub: Goats, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 This is why I don't eat them. Yes. I have eaten very little pork in the past 15 (?) years, but can't claim to have totally abstained. Thank you for the reminder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) It's taken me about a decade to stop missing bacon. My dh thinks turkey bacon solves this issue - comes from a less cute critter. :lol: I have not had pork since our Porker went to the fair... Edited November 10, 2017 by Liz CA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 They are super smart! Professor Donald Broom at Oxford University said that they “have the cognitive ability to be quite sophisticated. Even more so than dogs and certainly three-year-olds.†I've read that they learned to play video games as quickly as chimpanzees (and were more interested in the games!) And here's an interesting paper that shows that they: Have excellent long-term memories Understand symbolic language Have a sense of time, remember specific episodes in their past, and anticipate future events Are excellent at navigating mazes and other spatial tasks Play creatively Live in complex social communities and easily distinguish other individuals, both pigs and human Have an understanding of the perspective of others as shown in their ability to use tactical deception Are emotional and exhibit empathy Show a form of self-recognition and self-agency in their abilities to manipulate joysticks and use mirrors to find food Have distinct personalities I :001_wub: pigs. Ahhh Mercy. I already felt bad when our Porker had to go to the market... Honestly, no mother was ever so relieved when ds chose something else the following year. I could not sleep the night before the last fair day and was a mess the day of the event. Did I mention that ds is 26 and this was over 10 years ago - obviously still not completely processed this loss... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalsummer Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Turkeys are still miserable in factory farms and in hatcheries. I don't think lack of cuteness makes it acceptable to inflict abuse on an animal. It feels different, but that is why I have a rational brain instead of just instinct - to tell myself that a cow or a pig or a turkey has as much right not to suffer unnecessarily as does a puppy or a kitten. I did not think the piglet would be cute, but it was cute. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Turkeys are still miserable in factory farms and in hatcheries. I don't think lack of cuteness makes it acceptable to inflict abuse on an animal. It feels different, but that is why I have a rational brain instead of just instinct - to tell myself that a cow or a pig or a turkey has as much right not to suffer unnecessarily as does a puppy or a kitten. I did not think the piglet would be cute, but it was cute. We've had chickens and two turkeys on our mini-farm around the same time we had the pig. Cute or not, I did love them all. Factory farming is horrible for chickens / turkeys. I am having a hard time discussing it since our girls (and boys) were free range. There are humane ways to dispatch a bird (or other animals) where much less - if any - cortisol is dumped into their system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalsummer Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Yes, that's true, mine wasn't all that logical either. I gave up dairy while nursing my 3rd because I just woke up one day and felt a strange sort of kinship with the mama cows. Plus, instinct is the source (Einstein would say, anyway) of all true revelation and understanding - logic/rationalization is just the layer we put on top of it. Found the quote: "The supreme task of the physicist is the discovery of the most general elementary laws from which the world-picture can be deduced logically. But there is no logical way to the discovery of these elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition [...]. ~ Albert Einstein" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) Yes, that's true, mine wasn't all that logical either. I gave up dairy while nursing my 3rd because I just woke up one day and felt a strange sort of kinship with the mama cows. If anyone feels like having their heart completely broken, they can watch this video of a baby cow being taken away from his mama. I've told this story here before, but I was once touring the dairy farm of a friend and saw a cow whose baby had just been taken away. The momma was still bloody from giving birth. She was obviously very distressed. Her eyes were bulging out of her head. I asked the young man giving the tour if she was missing her baby. He replied, "No, they don't care." We could hear her bellowing over and over again later on, and the young man said off-handedly, "She's calling for her baby." Talk about cognitive dissonance. :( Edited November 10, 2017 by MercyA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 It's taken me about a decade to stop missing bacon. Now that is strength of will! :thumbup1: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Ahhh Mercy. I already felt bad when our Porker had to go to the market... Honestly, no mother was ever so relieved when ds chose something else the following year. I could not sleep the night before the last fair day and was a mess the day of the event. Did I mention that ds is 26 and this was over 10 years ago - obviously still not completely processed this loss... I can only imagine how hard that must have been. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkie Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I wasn't going to mention it, but now that others have brought it up...I haven't eaten beef, pork, or poultry since I was a small child because I grew up on a farm and my heart was so broken over the animals that my parents butchered. :( 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) That's right, but starting somewhere is a better choice than no choice, kwim ? Yes! I greatly admire consistency in these things, but it's better to do something than nothing. There are some very easy things that can be done to reduce animal suffering and that honestly (I say to my shame) don't require much personal sacrifice on my part at all. I buy bath and beauty products that haven't been tested on animals. I don't buy leather or fur coats, belts, or purses. I don't buy new down, wool, or angora clothing. (I've accidentally bought two used down coats.) I don't buy veal, lamb, or fish. I buy coconut milk coffee creamer and rice milk for cereal. I only use eggs that I get for free. (My dad is a grocer and by law is not allowed to sell eggs from cartons that have been opened.) I tend to eat things I know I shouldn't (like pork!) when I'm at family or church gatherings. It's easy to not make it for myself at home, but I need to be intentional about not eating it elsewhere, too. There's really no good reason for it. I have to limit my intake of soy, beans, and nuts due to their oxalate content (I get kidney stones) and their histamine content (I have chronic urticaria). I can't eat enough of them to get sufficient protein. I also get very anemic without any meat, even though I take iron. So it's difficult. But that doesn't mean I can't do anything, and I'm sure I can do more than I currently am. Thanks for the encouragement, all. Edited November 10, 2017 by MercyA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I have to limit my intake of soy, beans, and nuts due to their oxalate content (I get kidney stones) and their histamine content (I have chronic urticaria). I can't eat enough of them to get sufficient protein. I also get very anemic without any meat, even though I take iron. So it's difficult. But that doesn't mean I can't do anything, and I'm sure I can do more than I currently am. Thanks for the encouragement, all. fwiw, I had several bouts of bad kidney stones during my first pregnancy and the couple years after & even needed lithotripsy but I've been fine on veg*n diet ever since I started supplementing with magnesium. If you take magnesium it will bind with the oxalate in the stomach and be excreted that route, rather than leaving the oxalate to float around and start crystallizing in the kidneys. I eat tons of high oxalate foods with no recurrence of stones. I do have one kidney with some slight and probably permanent physical damage from the horrible stones years ago, and I have some herbal remedies from Europe which I use as a cleanse to flush gunk out of it every 6 months or so but that's it.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 lol, turkeys sure are less attractive! Birds are next on my list to give up though... I've got you. I knew I had a turkey love video somewhere....finally found it: https://www.facebook.com/AnimalsAustralia/videos/10154320547305299/?hc_ref=ARQ_rw2jRYSUMy4o0z3EOeI71gDPxDfdo_gKTmGFCy5UqiPVtaB7H9dS-xxoiX1Vj7o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) Eh. I voted indifferent. Baby animals are always cute but I've seen way cuter videos than this one. It's cute but only because it's a baby. Also, am I the only one who thought the title referred to Piglet of Pooh fame? I was already trying to picture Piglet eating a grape. Edited November 11, 2017 by Lady Florida. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 I've got you. I knew I had a turkey love video somewhere....finally found it: https://www.facebook.com/AnimalsAustralia/videos/10154320547305299/?hc_ref=ARQ_rw2jRYSUMy4o0z3EOeI71gDPxDfdo_gKTmGFCy5UqiPVtaB7H9dS-xxoiX1Vj7o So awesome! A man who shares his drink with a turkey is my kind of man. :thumbup1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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