IfIOnly Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'm trying to figure out what strengths to start at and how to combine these products. I still have a lot of research to do, but so far I've gathered (please correct me if I'm wrong): Retin-A - Start with .025 percent, move to .05 percent, then go to .1 percent. Is there anything higher than .1 percent? Goal is nightly use, but may take a while for skin to handle that. The cheapest I've found is this place and product: https://www.alldaychemist.com/womens-day/retino-a-cream-025.html Any other recommended sources? Vitamin C serum- use during the day after washing face. Maybe not until using retin-a for some time and skin is adjusted to that? Might go with this serum: http://www.cleopatraschoice.com/gpr-0030.html?utm_source=gpr-0030&utm_medium=shopping%2Bengine&utm_campaign=google&gclid=CKiU4er1qdICFUqVfgodEiMIDw Gycolic peel- not sure how often to use this in conjunction with retin-a or what strength to start with. I have read that for light at home peels it's okay to use retin-a up until the night before, but to not use retin-a again until after all the redness and irritation is gone from the peel. I'm seeing lots of quality products at low prices on the web. Hyaluronic Acid- morning and night. I'm thinking about this product: http://www.cleopatraschoice.com/gpr-0034.html What anti-aging products and brands do you use? What is your application routine? Tips and advice? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeFlowers Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 You might want to check out Caroline Hirons on YouTube or on her blog. She describes a daily regimen, both evening and night. I would add links but I'm on my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 You might want to check out Caroline Hirons on YouTube or on her blog. She describes a daily regimen, both evening and night. I would add links but I'm on my phone. This looks like her cheat sheet: http://www.carolinehirons.com/2013/06/routines-cheat-sheet.html I didn't recognize a lot of her recommendations and will have to figure out what she's talking about. Lol. Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbelle Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I found this blog article: https://www.theskincentermd.com/blog/2014/02/skin-care-products-and-layering/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 I found this blog article: https://www.theskincentermd.com/blog/2014/02/skin-care-products-and-layering/ Thanks! I've noticed that some people use the glycolic acid in a toner in the morning. I wonder if they do that in addition to glycolic peels or instead of? Hmm. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeFlowers Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) This looks like her cheat sheet: http://www.carolinehirons.com/2013/06/routines-cheat-sheet.html I didn't recognize a lot of her recommendations and will have to figure out what she's talking about. Lol. Thank you! That is the cheat sheet. She is English but most of the products she recommends can be bought here. They are often expensive but she does recommend some cheaper ones. I just thought the routine cheat sheet might help. She has been in the skincare/make-up industry for years and knows more than most YouTube bloggers. I prefer using a glycolic acid daily and then using retinol products at night. The Pixi toner she recommends is good and you can buy it at Target or on Amazon. ETA: I also like that she is closer to my age and knows what it is like to have 40yo old skin. Edited February 25, 2017 by MaeFlowers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) With regards to the Retin-A, I'm reading to start with an application every three days. When that's tolerated, go to every two days, then nightly. When it's tolerated nightly, move up to the next strength and start with the 3 day rotation again. Some people apparently can't do every night though and can only do 3 times a week or weekday with weekends off. So it's a bit of a process figuring out what works for you. How often can you who use Retin-A use it? I'm thinking of starting the vitamin C serum in the mornings and Retin A in the evening along with the hyaluronic acid for moisture day and night. Then when I'm up to the 1% Retin-A dose nightly with no problem, I'll look into adding the glycolic acid. Although I read something that suggested retin-a first, then add in glycolic acid, then add in vitamin C. Hmmm. Lots of opinions out there. Edited February 25, 2017 by ifIonlyhadabrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 My Mon-Wed-Fri night routine is: cleanser antioxidant/soothing serum prescription retinoid gel moisturizer My Tue-Thu-Sat-Sun night routine is: cleanser antioxidant/soothing serum exfoliant (currently salicylic acid, but sometimes I use glycolic acid) moisturizer My morning routine everyday is: cleanser moisturizer with sunscreen makeup with more sunscreen (I'm very fair skinned, and I live in a high-altitude desert, so I'm a little paranoid about sun exposure!) You might find this helpful: http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-basics/_/how-to-put-together-a-skin-care-routine Or this: http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-basics/_/5-minute-skincare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 My Mon-Wed-Fri night routine is: cleanser antioxidant/soothing serum prescription retinoid gel moisturizer My Tue-Thu-Sat-Sun night routine is: cleanser antioxidant/soothing serum exfoliant (currently salicylic acid, but sometimes I use glycolic acid) moisturizer My morning routine everyday is: cleanser moisturizer with sunscreen makeup with more sunscreen (I'm very fair skinned, and I live in a high-altitude desert, so I'm a little paranoid about sun exposure!) You might find this helpful: http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-basics/_/how-to-put-together-a-skin-care-routine Or this: http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-basics/_/5-minute-skincare Great to see your routine. Thank you! May I ask what percent of exfoliant you use? Do you use a toner or a peel like product that has to be washed off soon after application? I'm really curious about your antioxidant/soothing serum too. Sounds really nice. Would that be similar to hyaluronic acid? Sorry to pester you with questions! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Great to see your routine. Thank you! May I ask what percent of exfoliant you use? Do you use a toner or a peel like product that has to be washed off soon after application? I'm really curious about your antioxidant/soothing serum too. Sounds really nice. Would that be similar to hyaluronic acid? Sorry to pester you with questions! You're not pestering at all! I find this kind of stuff fun to talk about anyway. :001_smile: I really appreciate quality skin care products, but I may as well confess up front that I'm kind of cheap, and I'm also kind of lazy. So my product choices reflect that! I don't use toner, because I just don't find them to be worth the price and the hassle. I don't really feel like they do much of anything. Maybe I'm really missing out, I don't know! I don't really bother with peels or masks for the same reason. I prefer a pretty basic/simple routine. For my exfoliant, I use either a 2% BHA (salicylic) or a 10% AHA (glycolic). To save money (I warned you, I'm cheap!) I buy Paula's Choice body care products, but I use them on my face. You get a bigger volume of product for the price, and it's still fragrance-free and good quality (though it probably doesn't have as many beneficial ingredients as the ones for face, I'm not sure.) My favorite antioxidant/soothing serum is this one, again Paula's Choice. I love this stuff - it feels like liquid silk! But because of the price I don't always use it. Right now, I'm using Dr. Carver's Miracle Repair Serum, because it's a great deal cheaper. $12 for 2 ounces, if I remember correctly. But I can't seem to get their website to come up at the moment (it's from Dollar Shave Club). It is mostly hyaluronic acid, but it also has some antioxidants like white tea and blueberry extract and such. And it's fragrance-free (I'm a stickler for that.) Right now, I have a free sample of Paula's Vitamin C serum which I got with a purchase, so I'm also adding a drop of that to it each time as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekmom Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I highly recommend Angie on Hot and Flashy (youtube). Lots of great advice about retin A, serums, frequency, etc. I ordered from alldaychemist, and immediately after, my email was overwhelmed with spam. I'm sure they sold my email address. If you do order, create a new email that you don't mind dumping afterwards. Now I get my retin a at Sams. It costs around $70, but it lasts me at least 6 months ( and I feel better about it being made in the USA). Sams now sells the gel form of retin a at a very reasonable price without a prescription - differin gel I think is what it's called. I like the serums at Timeless skin care - free shipping, made to order, and $5.00 discount if you use coupon code from hot and flashy website. I have also seen a difference in my skin after using collagen peptide supplement I buy on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Vital-Proteins-Pasture-Raised-Grass-Fed-Collagen/dp/B00K6JUG4K/ref=sr_1_4_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487987152&sr=1-4&keywords=collagen%2Bpeptides&th=1 I mix a scoop in my Greek yogurt every morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapbookbuzz Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I handle them by not using them! LOL Most of them have ingredients I don't want going straight into my blood stream anyway, which it does when you put it on your skin, the largest organ you have. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 You're not pestering at all! I find this kind of stuff fun to talk about anyway. :001_smile: I really appreciate quality skin care products, but I may as well confess up front that I'm kind of cheap, and I'm also kind of lazy. So my product choices reflect that! I don't use toner, because I just don't find them to be worth the price and the hassle. I don't really feel like they do much of anything. Maybe I'm really missing out, I don't know! I don't really bother with peels or masks for the same reason. I prefer a pretty basic/simple routine. For my exfoliant, I use either a 2% BHA (salicylic) or a 10% AHA (glycolic). To save money (I warned you, I'm cheap!) I buy Paula's Choice body care products, but I use them on my face. You get a bigger volume of product for the price, and it's still fragrance-free and good quality (though it probably doesn't have as many beneficial ingredients as the ones for face, I'm not sure.) My favorite antioxidant/soothing serum is this one, again Paula's Choice. I love this stuff - it feels like liquid silk! But because of the price I don't always use it. Right now, I'm using Dr. Carver's Miracle Repair Serum, because it's a great deal cheaper. $12 for 2 ounces, if I remember correctly. But I can't seem to get their website to come up at the moment (it's from Dollar Shave Club). It is mostly hyaluronic acid, but it also has some antioxidants like white tea and blueberry extract and such. And it's fragrance-free (I'm a stickler for that.) Right now, I have a free sample of Paula's Vitamin C serum which I got with a purchase, so I'm also adding a drop of that to it each time as well. Yes, it is fun. I'm enjoying learning from you all. Thank you for sharing all of that good info. and your tips to help keep costs down, Greta! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 I highly recommend Angie on Hot and Flashy (youtube). Lots of great advice about retin A, serums, frequency, etc. I ordered from alldaychemist, and immediately after, my email was overwhelmed with spam. I'm sure they sold my email address. If you do order, create a new email that you don't mind dumping afterwards. Now I get my retin a at Sams. It costs around $70, but it lasts me at least 6 months ( and I feel better about it being made in the USA). Sams now sells the gel form of retin a at a very reasonable price without a prescription - differin gel I think is what it's called. I like the serums at Timeless skin care - free shipping, made to order, and $5.00 discount if you use coupon code from hot and flashy website. I have also seen a difference in my skin after using collagen peptide supplement I buy on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Vital-Proteins-Pasture-Raised-Grass-Fed-Collagen/dp/B00K6JUG4K/ref=sr_1_4_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487987152&sr=1-4&keywords=collagen%2Bpeptides&th=1 I mix a scoop in my Greek yogurt every morning. Oh, thank you for the spam heads up. I will def. open up a dummy email account. We don't have a Sam's here, but I wonder if Costco carries any Retin-A products. I looked up Angie and found a great blog post from her with tips and before and after pics of her using Retin-A for 3 years: http://www.hotandflashy50.com/retin-a-for-wrinkles-3-year-results-before-after/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) I handle them by not using them! LOL Most of them have ingredients I don't want going straight into my blood stream anyway, which it does when you put it on your skin, the largest organ you have. A lot of these type of products are loaded with chemicals and junk. The Vitamin C serum, gycolic acid, and hyaluronic acid are safe and can be found in pure formulas. Retin-A can be found without a bunch of junk but it's safety is debatable. I wouldn't touch it if I was considering conception/pregnancy, for sure. Edited February 25, 2017 by ifIonlyhadabrain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmtzc2009 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 So much will depend on your skin's sensitivity. Your goal is to produce just enough exfoliation without tipping the scales so far as to cause irritation. If your skin gets dry/irritated back off & simplify. I use Vitamin C, alpha hydroxy acids (AHA), and beta hydroxy acids (BHA) and Retin-A every night. Your insurance may cover Retin-A. I have a .25â„… Retin-A/antibiotic prescription that my insurance covers. I spent about six months at the .25% and then went up to 1%. I use it nightly unless I experience drying, then I drop down to the .25 until the flakiness subsides. I use Timeless for my serums including my Vitamin C serum. Make sure your using a good broad spectrum sunscreen every day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) I highly recommend Angie on Hot and Flashy (youtube). Lots of great advice about retin A, serums, frequency, etc. I ordered from alldaychemist, and immediately after, my email was overwhelmed with spam. I'm sure they sold my email address. If you do order, create a new email that you don't mind dumping afterwards. Now I get my retin a at Sams. It costs around $70, but it lasts me at least 6 months ( and I feel better about it being made in the USA). Sams now sells the gel form of retin a at a very reasonable price without a prescription - differin gel I think is what it's called. I love Angie! OP, you should definitely check out her videos. She recently did a video about Retin A, including before & after pictures from 3 years ago to today. She looks absolutely amazing for her age (53). (ETA: I should have kept reading — I see you already found that video!) Differin is available at Target & Amazon, too (I think it's ~ $12-15/tube), but it isn't tretinoin (Retin A), it's adapalene, which is a different retinoid. It's especially useful for acne because it helps unclog pores, and it can also be combined with benzoyl peroxide (unlike tretinoin). Edited February 25, 2017 by Corraleno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 A lot of these type of products are loaded with chemicals and junk. The Vitamin C serum, gycolic acid, and hyaluronic acid are safe and can be found in pure formulas. Retin-A can be found without a bunch of junk but it's safety is debatable. I wouldn't touch it if I was considering conception/pregnancy, for sure. If you ever have any concern about the safety of a particular ingredient, this ingredient dictionary is great: http://www.paulaschoice.com/cosmetic-ingredient-dictionary/ And I agree with you, those ingredients you mentioned are not only safe, they have proven benefits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 You're not pestering at all! I find this kind of stuff fun to talk about anyway. :001_smile: I really appreciate quality skin care products, but I may as well confess up front that I'm kind of cheap, and I'm also kind of lazy. So my product choices reflect that! I don't use toner, because I just don't find them to be worth the price and the hassle. I don't really feel like they do much of anything. Maybe I'm really missing out, I don't know! I don't really bother with peels or masks for the same reason. I prefer a pretty basic/simple routine. For my exfoliant, I use either a 2% BHA (salicylic) or a 10% AHA (glycolic). To save money (I warned you, I'm cheap!) I buy Paula's Choice body care products, but I use them on my face. You get a bigger volume of product for the price, and it's still fragrance-free and good quality (though it probably doesn't have as many beneficial ingredients as the ones for face, I'm not sure.) My favorite antioxidant/soothing serum is this one, again Paula's Choice. I love this stuff - it feels like liquid silk! But because of the price I don't always use it. Right now, I'm using Dr. Carver's Miracle Repair Serum, because it's a great deal cheaper. $12 for 2 ounces, if I remember correctly. But I can't seem to get their website to come up at the moment (it's from Dollar Shave Club). It is mostly hyaluronic acid, but it also has some antioxidants like white tea and blueberry extract and such. And it's fragrance-free (I'm a stickler for that.) Right now, I have a free sample of Paula's Vitamin C serum which I got with a purchase, so I'm also adding a drop of that to it each time as well. I forgot to add that I tried PC's Resist 2% BHA several months ago and broke out in painful cystic acne. I took a break and tried again and the same thing happened. I was so bummed about that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 So much will depend on your skin's sensitivity. Your goal is to produce just enough exfoliation without tipping the scales so far as to cause irritation. If your skin gets dry/irritated back off & simplify. I use Vitamin C, alpha hydroxy acids (AHA), and beta hydroxy acids (BHA) and Retin-A every night. Your insurance may cover Retin-A. I have a .25â„… Retin-A/antibiotic prescription that my insurance covers. I spent about six months at the .25% and then went up to 1%. I use it nightly unless I experience drying, then I drop down to the .25 until the flakiness subsides. I use Timeless for my serums including my Vitamin C serum. Make sure your using a good broad spectrum sunscreen every day. Oh, great tips about how to handle irritation. I will need to find a good sunscreen before starting. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I forgot to add that I tried PC's Resist 2% BHA several months ago and broke out in painful cystic acne. I took a break and tried again and the same thing happened. I was so bummed about that! Oh, no! That's awful. :-( I used to use the "Skin Perfecting" (gel) before I switched to the body lotion and it worked really well, very light-weight. Perhaps the "Resist" line is more emollient? I wouldn't blame you if you were hesitant to try any more of her products, though. Cystic acne is the WORST (and it's why I have a prescription retinoid gel!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Oh, no! That's awful. :-( I used to use the "Skin Perfecting" (gel) before I switched to the body lotion and it worked really well, very light-weight. Perhaps the "Resist" line is more emollient? I wouldn't blame you if you were hesitant to try any more of her products, though. Cystic acne is the WORST (and it's why I have a prescription retinoid gel!). That makes sense; I think it was too moisturizing. I have acne prone, oily skin and pores that clog easily and are prone to milia and blackheads. It looks like I ordered the wrong product. I will check those other PC products out. Thank you so much for sharing. Edited February 25, 2017 by ifIonlyhadabrain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Holy cow, this thread is making my head spin. My skin care regimen consists of soap and water. Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 Holy cow, this thread is making my head spin. My skin care regimen consists of soap and water. Lol! LOL! I've seen pics of you. You have amazing skin. I wish! I wash and put an antioxidant serum on my face. Done. Starting some anti-aging stuff is way overdue for me and my sun damaged skin, 40 year old skin. I seriously am the oldest looking person my age in my circles. Runs in the fam. My mom and grandma look at least 10 years older than everyone else their age. :( If this stuff works for me, I'm going to hook my mom up for Mother's Day. :P She'd be thrilled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 nothing...i don't even use soap on my face 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakelly Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I use Paula's choice for everything. It's seriously amazing. I love looking at her site and researching other products to see what the ingredients are. She breaks everything down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbelle Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I am also wondering about body serums/creams etc.. to help keep skin firm and happy looking. I see Paula's Choice offers something. Anyone else have experience with this or other products? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmasc Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) I'd love some of the Retin-A users to chime in on their favorite sunscreen as well, if that's ok with you OP! I use Elta MD clear, but I'm thinking of trying something new. My experience with Retin-A was starting out with the 0.025, then after about 6 months I moved on to 0.05. I still can't go daily, so I haven't tried the .1% yet. I've used 0.05 for well over a year...Usually about 3-4 consecutive nights, then off a night or two. ETA: Typo Edited February 25, 2017 by mmasc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 I'd love some of the Retin-A users to chime in on their favorite sunscreen as well, if that's ok with you OP! I use Elta MD clear, but I'm thinking of trying something new. My experience with Retin-A was starting out with the 0.025, then after about 6 months I moved on to 0.05. I still can't go daily, so I haven't tried the 1% yet. I've used 0.05 for well over a year...Usually about 3-4 consecutive nights, then off a night or two. Of course! I'd love to hear recs too. I have a terrible skin type and every sunscreen I've tried clogs my pores. I'm hoping because I'm doing these intensive treatments that keepnpores cleaned out, that I'll be able to tolerate sunscreen. We shall see. Here's a post I've saved with sunscreen recs: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/530084-anyone-ever-done-a-chemical-peel/?p=5957498 Thanks for sharing your timeline! Do you notice positive results from the Retin-A? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 For sunscreen, I like Paula's Choice RESIST Youth-Extending Daily Hydrating Fluid SPF 50 It's not greasy or smelly, no whiteness, absorbs quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmasc Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Of course! I'd love to hear recs too. I have a terrible skin type and every sunscreen I've tried clogs my pores. I'm hoping because I'm doing these intensive treatments that keepnpores cleaned out, that I'll be able to tolerate sunscreen. We shall see. Here's a post I've saved with sunscreen recs: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/530084-anyone-ever-done-a-chemical-peel/?p=5957498 Thanks for sharing your timeline! Do you notice positive results from the Retin-A? Definitely saw results. In the first 8-10 weeks, I had less breakouts and much smoother skin. I'm 41, and don't have a lot of wrinkles (yet!), but my derm prescribed it for hormonal acne. I'd like to think it's helping scare off the wrinkles too, though. ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) I don't. Like the good times, I just let the wrinkles roll. ETA: I occasionally put on a few pounds in lieu of Botox; fat fills out the wrinkles way better than Botox. Edited February 25, 2017 by reefgazer 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Holy Moses! I can barely remember to brush my teeth and wash my face. My Mon-Wed-Fri night routine is: cleanser antioxidant/soothing serum prescription retinoid gel moisturizer My Tue-Thu-Sat-Sun night routine is: cleanser antioxidant/soothing serum exfoliant (currently salicylic acid, but sometimes I use glycolic acid) moisturizer My morning routine everyday is: cleanser moisturizer with sunscreen makeup with more sunscreen (I'm very fair skinned, and I live in a high-altitude desert, so I'm a little paranoid about sun exposure!) You might find this helpful: http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-basics/_/how-to-put-together-a-skin-care-routine Or this: http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-basics/_/5-minute-skincare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) dp. My Mon-Wed-Fri night routine is: cleanser antioxidant/soothing serum prescription retinoid gel moisturizer My Tue-Thu-Sat-Sun night routine is: cleanser antioxidant/soothing serum exfoliant (currently salicylic acid, but sometimes I use glycolic acid) moisturizer My morning routine everyday is: cleanser moisturizer with sunscreen makeup with more sunscreen (I'm very fair skinned, and I live in a high-altitude desert, so I'm a little paranoid about sun exposure!) You might find this helpful: http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-basics/_/how-to-put-together-a-skin-care-routine Or this: http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-basics/_/5-minute-skincare Edited February 25, 2017 by reefgazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Holy Moses! I can barely remember to brush my teeth and wash my face. My memory isn't good, but my motivation is! I can either do the routine and have halfway-decent looking skin, or I can skip the routine and have cystic acne. That's a pretty compelling reason for me to keep up with the routine! :001_smile: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaBearTeacher Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This dermatologist has a vlog about skincare. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxmUrGMtpQT844Yd_l7Zyg/videos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 I don't. Like the good times, I just let the wrinkles roll. ETA: I occasionally put on a few pounds in lieu of Botox; fat fills out the wrinkles way better than Botox. Lol! I love your Botox replacement plan. ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendedforecast Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 For sunscreen, I like Paula's Choice RESIST Youth-Extending Daily Hydrating Fluid SPF 50 It's not greasy or smelly, no whiteness, absorbs quickly. For those of us who work out in the mornings (outdoors), I have a question. I've been looking for a sunscreen to use specifically for my workouts. Something that isn't too heavy, but it needs to be able to withstand excessive sweating too. Do you think this would do the trick? I'm currently using neutrogena sunscreen specifically for the face. I don't remember the spf #, and t's in my gym bag in the car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeFlowers Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) I forgot to add that I tried PC's Resist 2% BHA several months ago and broke out in painful cystic acne. I took a break and tried again and the same thing happened. I was so bummed about that! If you have a reaction like this, note the main ingredients. That way, you can figure out over time what is the culprit. I couldn't use this because of the salicylic acid. I'm allergic to it and it makes my skin turn to sandpaper. That's why I use glycolic acid. My skin just likes it better. Actually, I can't use most of the Paula's Choice products as they make me break out terribly. I do love the Resist Barrier Repair Moisturizer. It does great things for my skin. ETA: I just noticed that it appears you are going straight to prescription strength with Retin-A and it appears you have never used over the counter retinols. I don't know how bad your skin issues are but you might consider trying an over the counter formula first. It will be milder (meaning the side effects will be milder) and may be all you need. I had mild cystic acne when I was a teenager and started using this Neutrogena cream at 15. Back then, it was a day cream but it is still the same stuff. It completely rid me of cystic acne and made my skin pretty much flawless. I used it until I had my ds at 29 and started using it again after he was born. (My skin was awful when I was pregnant.) When my ds started having acne this year, I started him on it. I can always tell when he hasn't been using because he starts breaking out again. I have recommended this cream to people here before. It is probably my all time favorite product ever. Edited February 26, 2017 by MaeFlowers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 For those of us who work out in the mornings (outdoors), I have a question. I've been looking for a sunscreen to use specifically for my workouts. Something that isn't too heavy, but it needs to be able to withstand excessive sweating too. Do you think this would do the trick? I'm currently using neutrogena sunscreen specifically for the face. I don't remember the spf #, and t's in my gym bag in the car. I generally prefer physical (zinc oxide type) sunscreens if I'm going to be sweating a lot because chemical sunscreens sting my eyes if I get sweaty. The Resist SPF 50 doesn't sting nearly as much as some other sunscreens I've tried, but it still bothers me a bit. It makes a great everyday sunscreen, though, because it's super lightweight (liquid rather than a cream) and disappears completely. It's hard to find an "invisible" sunscreen with such a high SPF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendedforecast Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I generally prefer physical (zinc oxide type) sunscreens if I'm going to be sweating a lot because chemical sunscreens sting my eyes if I get sweaty. The Resist SPF 50 doesn't sting nearly as much as some other sunscreens I've tried, but it still bothers me a bit. It makes a great everyday sunscreen, though, because it's super lightweight (liquid rather than a cream) and disappears completely. It's hard to find an "invisible" sunscreen with such a high SPF. Got it. So does this routine look okay? Before bed beauty routine Sleep Wake up Wash face (is this necessary?) Zinc oxide sunscreen Work out Wash face Normal beauty routine including sunscreen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Be sure you're using a good sunscreen religiously. I finally found some that I like that don't leave me with that unpleasant greasy feel, which meant that I'd skip it as often as not. Now that I have some I like, it's much easier to wear it daily. I look for ones that keep me from turning red (I have a reaction to the sun, so I turn red pretty much immediately, even on cloudy days, but it's not a burn), and that have a nice feel when I rub them in. I love the sun protection of Anthelios, but I've given it up for most uses because I can't stand that greasy feel for daily use, and it always seems to have a bit of a white cast, even on my deathly pale skin. I've ended up with Asian sunscreens because they work well for me and have a nice feel on application with no greasiness at all. Ones I like a lot for nice skin feel and no white cast: Biore Watery Essence (I use this during the winter or when I'm not going to be outside much.) Another Biore sunscreen that's water resistant (I use this when I'm going to be in the sun more or sweating) Missha sunscreen that's water resistant (I use this interchangeably with the Biore water resistant one) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Got it. So does this routine look okay? Before bed beauty routine Sleep Wake up Wash face (is this necessary?) Zinc oxide sunscreen Work out Wash face Normal beauty routine including sunscreen I do my morning face wash just as part of my regular shower after I workout (I keep one bottle of my CeraVe facial cleanser by my sink for my evening wash, and one in the shower for my morning wash). I don't think it's particularly necessary to wash your face both before and after your workout. If I'm going to be exercising outside, then I do put on sunscreen, but I don't wash first. Then I shower (wash my face) and apply sunscreen again. If I'm exercising at the gym, I just get up and go. Well, not true, I get up, have coffee, then go. :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) If you have a reaction like this, note the main ingredients. That way, you can figure out over time what is the culprit. I couldn't use this because of the salicylic acid. I'm allergic to it and it makes my skin turn to sandpaper. That's why I use glycolic acid. My skin just likes it better. Actually, I can't use most of the Paula's Choice products as they make me break out terribly. I do love the Resist Barrier Repair Moisturizer. It does great things for my skin. ETA: I just noticed that it appears you are going straight to prescription strength with Retin-A and it appears you have never used over the counter retinols. I don't know how bad your skin issues are but you might consider trying an over the counter formula first. It will be milder (meaning the side effects will be milder) and may be all you need. I had mild cystic acne when I was a teenager and started using this Neutrogena cream at 15. Back then, it was a day cream but it is still the same stuff. It completely rid me of cystic acne and made my skin pretty much flawless. I used it until I had my ds at 29 and started using it again after he was born. (My skin was awful when I was pregnant.) When my ds started having acne this year, I started him on it. I can always tell when he hasn't been using because he starts breaking out again. I have recommended this cream to people here before. It is probably my all time favorite product ever. That Neutrogena product looks amazing. Thank you. I'm trying some ASAP! I'm only 40 and already have age spots and wrinkles. I'm needing the intensive stuff too though. Edited February 27, 2017 by ifIonlyhadabrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Holy cow, this thread is making my head spin. My skin care regimen consists of soap and water. Lol! LOL, I'm with you. I don't even use soap! I wash with water usually, and then I do use a moisturizer after I get out of the shower (or my skin get's irritated)...usually Cerave cream...I don't even think it is for faces, but that's what I use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbelle Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Does anyone use the Elta sunscreen? It contains niaminacide, so that's another layer and I'm wondering how to work it in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Does anyone use the Elta sunscreen? It contains niaminacide, so that's another layer and I'm wondering how to work it in. Never heard of it but bumping for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmasc Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Does anyone use the Elta sunscreen? It contains niaminacide, so that's another layer and I'm wondering how to work it in. I use Elta sunscreen. I apply it after cleanser and moisturizer (if needed), and before make-up (if I'm going to wear any). Which one do you use? I've been using the UV Clear, but I just ordered the UV Physical Broad Spectrum SPF 41 to try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbelle Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I use UV clear Broad Spectrum 46. I have used a different one, but can't remember which one, but I did like it a little better. The one i have right now is actually slightly tinted. It's fine, but I was suprised. I guess I wasn't payiing enough attention when I bought it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendedforecast Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 If you have a reaction like this, note the main ingredients. That way, you can figure out over time what is the culprit. I couldn't use this because of the salicylic acid. I'm allergic to it and it makes my skin turn to sandpaper. That's why I use glycolic acid. My skin just likes it better. Actually, I can't use most of the Paula's Choice products as they make me break out terribly. I do love the Resist Barrier Repair Moisturizer. It does great things for my skin. ETA: I just noticed that it appears you are going straight to prescription strength with Retin-A and it appears you have never used over the counter retinols. I don't know how bad your skin issues are but you might consider trying an over the counter formula first. It will be milder (meaning the side effects will be milder) and may be all you need. I had mild cystic acne when I was a teenager and started using this Neutrogena cream at 15. Back then, it was a day cream but it is still the same stuff. It completely rid me of cystic acne and made my skin pretty much flawless. I used it until I had my ds at 29 and started using it again after he was born. (My skin was awful when I was pregnant.) When my ds started having acne this year, I started him on it. I can always tell when he hasn't been using because he starts breaking out again. I have recommended this cream to people here before. It is probably my all time favorite product ever. FYI, if there is an HEB near you, they have a coupon for $2.00 off Neutrogena products. Regular price for the item above was $11.96. I bought that plus the cream cleanser I love for under $14.00. I should go back and buy a few more for later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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