Looking for grammar similar to what is in Treasured Conversations

[Laura Cook]

My oldest son is working through Treasured Conversations this year and so far he is loving it! Since the first section of TC is focused on grammar we decided to set aside FLL 4 temporarily. He is just a few days away from being done with the first section of TC and absolutely does not want to pick back up with FLL 4. He very much prefers the labeling of sentences in TC versus the diagramming of sentences in FLL. We both really liked how the grammar in TC was directly related to the writing process, it made the grammar feel much more, I don't know . . . cohesive might be the word I'm thinking of. He is insisting that I find something different, so I thought I would start my search by asking here if anyone had any suggestions? Thanks!

[ByGrace3]

You might take a look at IEW Fix It.

[Guest]

Does he need more grammar study specifically? We are pretty much using TC to bridge the gap between writing skills and actual writing output. So the next step for us is working at writing as an art of its own with prompts and different formats (poetry, reports of various kinds and lengths, etc). Any further grammar is pretty much limited to language study for us - i.e.: Latin, Spanish, etc.

 

I view grammar and phonics in the same way - building blocks to further study that are necessary to scaffold learning but will eventually become automatic and not need separate study. Grammar is a needful means to an end, but not an end in and of itself. We just don't have the school time to retread grammar endlessly.

 

Does this student require additional practice before moving forward? TC continues to integrate grammar and you can absolutely draw it out in discussion of the additional lessons without teaching it separately. I'd do that before adding in another program.

[Laura Cook]

You might take a look at IEW Fix It.

Thank you, I will check into that one.

[Laura Cook]

Does he need more grammar study specifically? We are pretty much using TC to bridge the gap between writing skills and actual writing output. So the next step for us is working at writing as an art of its own with prompts and different formats (poetry, reports of various kinds and lengths, etc). Any further grammar is pretty much limited to language study for us - i.e.: Latin, Spanish, etc.

 

I view grammar and phonics in the same way - building blocks to further study that are necessary to scaffold learning but will eventually become automatic and not need separate study. Grammar is a needful means to an end, but not an end in and of itself. We just don't have the school time to retread grammar endlessly.

 

Does this student require additional practice before moving forward? TC continues to integrate grammar and you can absolutely draw it out in discussion of the additional lessons without teaching it separately. I'd do that before adding in another program.

You know, I don't really think that he needs more practice, at least not this year. Our main focus for this year is on writing, and we also are using TC to bridge the gap between skills and output. I like the idea of just touching on it in relation to writing as we work through the rest of TC. I never intended to do grammar every single year, especially for this kid, who seems to intuitively understand it. I guess I've decided, we are not going to use a separate grammar program this year and will focus on writing. Your questions made me stop and think, so thank you!

[Guest]

If he isn't struggling, success! Enjoy the rest of the program :)

[Wishes]

I am using MCT Grammar Town, the iBook. We skip over the parts of speech he's learned, practice parsing the sentences, then go through interjections, conjunctions, and prepositions. We might add more but that can lead to teaching him how to do complex and compound sentences.