scrapbabe Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Wow! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Euclid Copywork at Currclick. http://www.currclick.com/product/101163/Euclids-Geometry-Quotes-Cursive-Copywork-Notebook Teachers Pay Teachers Euclid https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Browse/Search:euclid The library sent me a message my ILL copy of Byrne's Euclid arrived! Edited September 22, 2016 by Hunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 I was given a present of a $25.00 gift card to Amazon to buy a journal for Euclid. Help me pick one? I think I want blank pages, rather than lined or grid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Has anyone used Byrne Euclid directly with students? How did the f as s thing go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 I have never had a dot grid notebook. Maybe I want dot grid, but a nicer one than this. https://www.amazon.com/Dot-Grid-Composition-Notebook-Requested/dp/1481011162/ref=pd_sim_14_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4K721V69DMPT59CQSG42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Has anyone used Leuchtturm dot https://www.amazon.com/Leuchtturm-Medium-Soft-Cover-Black/dp/B003EVHV6S/ref=pd_sim_229_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FRQWN8R2QXXFHKZBKNKV What did you use for a straightedge and compass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 I have not, but YouTube has a ton of ppl gushing about that notebook! Especially bullet-journalers. Thanks! I'll check youtube! Sorry I cannot like you. I'm still out of likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Has anyone used Byrne Euclid directly with students? How did the f as s thing go? My kids figured it out. They didn't mind and found it funny. It is still easier than reading a book written in older forms of cursive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Euclid Geobunnies notebook http://www.redbubble.com/people/2redheadedbros/works/13077371-euclids-elements-book-1-geobunnies-4-panels?p=hardcover-journal&type=hardcover_journal&paper_type=graph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 DIBS on this as my autobiography title :-D :-D I can't like that either. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 My kids figured it out. They didn't mind and found it funny. It is still easier than reading a book written in older forms of cursive. Thank so much for sharing. Good point about the cursive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Some Euclids have a totally different sets of definitions and postulates and axioms. Even Green Lion and Byrne don't match. What do you all do about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. A Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I was given a present of a $25.00 gift card to Amazon to buy a journal for Euclid. Help me pick one? I think I want blank pages, rather than lined or grid. I'd personally go with blank, but the dot grid probably would be nice too. Some Euclids have a totally different sets of definitions and postulates and axioms. Even Green Lion and Byrne don't match. What do you all do about that? Really interesting! I wonder why that is. I have the Green Lion text. It's enough for me to try to work through that so I haven't even begun to think about other editions! Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Green Lion and Byrne's don't match. And the pages of C. P. Mason that I printed out don't match either of them. I think the Indian videos might match Green Lion. I had canceled the book I first ordered and ordered the Green Lion Bones version instead. I think I'm going to use The Bones as my default set of definitions and such since it is the smallest book on the market and I think I can hold onto a copy. I really need to find out more about what the differences are based on. I think in the 1800s it was common for school versions to have some stuff rearranged. I get that. But even Byrne and Green Lion do not match; I wonder if they are off different Greek manuscripts. Edited September 23, 2016 by Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 This jpg of the GeoBunnies has a watermark on it, but would still look awfully nice on the cover of a Euclid notebook. http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.152324371.7371/flat,800x800,070,f.u3.jpg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) Online Euclid textbook and Study guide. http://themathpage.com/aBookI/plane-geometry.htm This might be worth saving the individual pages to pdf. When I "printed" to pdf the blue background was stripped off and the text stretched to the edge of the pages. Edited September 24, 2016 by Hunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 Project Euclid Videos. All of Book 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 Gutenberg had a very nice copy of John Casey's 1885 Euclid, if you are looking for a free copy to print. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/21076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) I found a copy of a Hall and Stevens Euclid mentioned as being used by CM schools. https://jscholarship.library.jhu.edu/handle/1774.2/34173 EDIT. This one might just be another copy of the Hall book available at Google. I'm confused if there is more than one Hall book and what is said to have been used. Edited September 24, 2016 by Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 I am really enjoying the Online Renaissance Euclid videos tonight. Lot of history, art, and Greek and Latin roots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapbabe Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I'm rarely here anymore, but Hunter you always start the best threads! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto4inSoCal Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Thank you for this thread! I've been researching teaching geometry with euclid although there seem to be more people opposed to the idea than for it I can't seem to give up the idea. We are a ways off from geometry so I have time to figure it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 Access to videos is really helping me. I'm probably going to have a big reduction in my access to wifi in a couple weeks, so I'm trying to watch as many videos as I can now. There is an online textbook and study guide above I saved to pdf, so I will have that, even without wifi. The course is by a community college teacher. I don't see anything not covered in that CC Euclid course that is needed to graduate for most 2 year CC degrees. Transfer is a whole other issue. But anything required to transfer is always available at the CC and usually for credit and not as remedial. And I no longer worry about ME providing things needed to transfer; that isn't my job in life. I am really enjoying my Euclid studies, right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 Is Dover letting archive.org give away scans of their version of Euclid? If I click on pdf, there are links to beautiful scans of all 3 Dover volumes. This seems a little too good to be true. Am I missing something? https://archive.org/details/euclid_heath_2nd_ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) Why are people opposed to it? [i'm completely in the dark.] A quick google brings up this https://www.britannica.com/topic/Teaching-the-Elements-733774 http://www.academia.edu/26403268/Geometry_The_Euclid_debate http://www.accsedu.org/filerequest/3652.pdf http://legacyrlmoore.org/reference/Clark_Teaching_Geometry.pdf Edited September 25, 2016 by Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I think in the 1800s it was common for school versions to have some stuff rearranged. I get that. But even Byrne and Green Lion do not match; I wonder if they are off different Greek manuscripts. I wonder if then the subject "Euclid" didn't mean "A more or less literal translation of Euclid's Elements", but meant more like "Geometry, generally, perhaps more or less loosely modeled from Euclid"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 I wonder if then the subject "Euclid" didn't mean "A more or less literal translation of Euclid's Elements", but meant more like "Geometry, generally, perhaps more or less loosely modeled from Euclid"? I'm trying to do more research. There are different translations and manuscripts they are based off of, just like Bible controversy. It is making it hard to jump from one good study guide or notes to another though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen. Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Euclidean Constructions http://www.mathopenref.com/constructions.html http://www.examfear.com/free-video-lesson/Class-9/Maths/Constructions/part-1.htm https://www.khanacademy.org/math/geometry-home/geometric-constructions Constructive Form Work https://books.google.com/books?id=FTEAAAAAYAAJ&dq=Constructive+form+work&source=gbs_navlinks_s Waldorf middle school geometry is similar to the link above. I love the Waldorf drawings. Here's a link to some of their free ebooks from their web site that can be helpful. I do not follow the Waldorf philosophy, but how can one ignore the beautiful drawings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen. Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Hunter, you might consider this edition - translated by Thomas Heath - it has all the greats in it. :) This is the one I own. Here's Euclid's book by itself. This is the book our library has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 I love the Waldorf drawings. Here's a link to some of their free ebooks from their web site that can be helpful. I do not follow the Waldorf philosophy, but how can one ignore the beautiful drawings. Thanks!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hunter, you might consider this edition - translated by Thomas Heath - it has all the greats in it. :) This is the one I own. Here's Euclid's book by itself. This is the book our library has. Thanks! I am still trying to figure out how we have books that are so different. Dover is Heath? I think Barnes and Nobles might be too. I have been looking at lots of Heath stuff today. Or at least what I think is Heath. I am in full OCD mode trying to figure out the big picture here and skimming huge volumes of texts. Skimming gives me motion sickness. :ack2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hunter, you might consider this edition - translated by Thomas Heath - it has all the greats in it. :) This is the one I own. Here's Euclid's book by itself. This is the book our library has. I asked my library to buy the one your library bought. It looks almost the same as the Green Lion Press edition, but is an inch smaller all around and about 120 pages shorter. I think I want a stripped down version of Heath. A lot of the best supplements seemed keyed to Heath. Byrne didn't just substitute colors for letters. He combined some of the formal divisions of a proposition. I don't think Byrne will work for me as the primary text, as I think I want to cover the formal divisions. This video covers the six formal divisions. More on the divisions http://themathpage.com/aBookI/propI-1.htm#formal Heath explaining the formal divisions https://books.google.com/books?id=i0g0AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA370&lpg=PA370&dq=formal+divisions+of+a+proposition&source=bl&ots=5dyMwG0_y8&sig=mRJQF8MpcadSgPxNaTseazI0j10&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwit5Pre1a3PAhWG6CYKHc23Cc4Q6AEISzAL#v=onepage&q=formal%20divisions%20of%20a%20proposition&f=false Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 How in the name of your favorite deity was AO trying to combine people using both Byrne and Heath into a single study? :confused1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targhee Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Has anyone used Byrne Euclid directly with students? How did the f as s thing go?I'd love to know this too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) Someone above said it was easier to read Byrne than read cursive, but *I* am really struggling with it. I have read the cursive of half-blind people and people that spoke English as a second language, easier than this. Edited September 26, 2016 by Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybeachbum Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Euclid's Elements free online http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Euclid's Elements free online http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/ This is supposed to do something interactive, right? It doesn't on my computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybeachbum Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 You might have to archive it. I found earlier versions that weren't interactive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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