.... Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Does anyone know - how much has the high school (Rhetoric) section changed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daijobu Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Did BFSU make the cut? MCT? AoPS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatic Entity Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Did BFSU make the cut? MCT? AoPS? BFSU-no MCT-no AoPS-yes, listed under Logic and Rhetoric math suggestions, no beast academy mention that I saw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visitor Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Thanks Kalmia I bought the 4th edition especially for the Science part :-) happy to read your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Lynn Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I'm still in the grammar stage section of the new edition, but so far I am really enjoying the changes! So much more emphasis on the bigger picture with examples of how it could be carried out in different ways and still meet the overall goals of a classical education. I love it! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73349 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) Mine is in town and should be delivered today. I did use the Look Inside feature on Amazon to peek. For anyone else who's still waiting, it's helpful, especially if you've read a previous edition. Edited August 13, 2016 by whitehawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawthorne44 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Mine arrived a couple of days ago, and we are reading it. I have a Kindle but I wanted the book-book for this. Although, I wouldn't have minded if it had been on Bookmatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalmia Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Made it to the high school section! Again, not comparing side by side with the 3rd edition so I may just have forgotten what was in there. Surprised and intrigued to see SWB argue for holding off on the progym until high school and including an accelerated table for putting the high school student through Memoria Press' Classical Composition course from fable to laws (I think that's the last one). In the section on screens and technology, she holds firm that a classical education is text/writing based, but is a wee bit more generous on the benefits of video and computer learning than in the last edition. I don't think there were any radical new curriculum introductions in the printed edition at any grade level (no MCT or LOE which there was forum input on), I haven't looked yet but I suspect they are on the online list of curriculum options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 BFSU-no MCT-no AoPS-yes, listed under Logic and Rhetoric math suggestions, no beast academy mention that I saw. What does she say about aops? As standalone or supplement? Just wondering because WTMA uses it alongside SM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatic Entity Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 What does she say about aops? As standalone or supplement? Just wondering because WTMA uses it alongside SM. As a stand-alone option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaOz Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Has anyone bought this on Kindle from Amazon? I thought it was available but it's not coming up as an option when I search for it.... Edited August 16, 2016 by LindaOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Has anyone bought this on Kindle from Amazon? I thought it was available but it's not coming up as an option when I search for it.... https://www.amazon.com/Well-Trained-Mind-Classical-Education-Fourth-ebook/dp/B01BX7S04Q/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=#nav-subnav $19.83. I haven't bought it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAmom Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Wonder why The Creative Writer wasn't mentioned in the book (at least that I saw...in writing sections)? It is a PeaceHillPress product and I've been trying to figure out how people use it/how SWB would suggest using it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaOz Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 https://www.amazon.com/Well-Trained-Mind-Classical-Education-Fourth-ebook/dp/B01BX7S04Q/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=#nav-subnav $19.83. I haven't bought it though. Thankyou for linking to it. 😊 Unfortunately the site is saying that the kindle version is currently unavailable for purchase. Is it the same for you or is it because I'm in Australia? Just wondering.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thankyou for linking to it. 😊 Unfortunately the site is saying that the kindle version is currently unavailable for purchase. Is it the same for you or is it because I'm in Australia? Just wondering.... I'm guessing Australia - it says "Buy now with 1-click" and "Deliver to: [my name]'s kindle" for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G5052 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I'm not buying this one because I have only a 12th grader left, but I just checked both library systems that we use. Neither has it on order, so I'll probably put that into their suggestion system. I'm sure that others would like to borrow it that way. I'd really like to page through it at some point just to see. I bought the first edition when my college kid was a preschooler! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I placed a purchase request at my library last weekend, and they approved it. But, they take 2 weeks to 3 months in my experience to actually get the book and process it (usually about a month). My main hope is they'll keep it at my branch - I think there's a good chance, since they usually keep things at the branch you request it at, and it's one of the bigger branches, and unlike the other bigger branches, it doesn't have an older version, but we'll see (I have the previous edition on my kindle, or I would've bought it). Yay, they've got it! Now if only my kid didn't have a dentist appointment right at the time the library opens... :cursing: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I'm not buying this one because I have only a 12th grader left, but I just checked both library systems that we use. Neither has it on order, so I'll probably put that into their suggestion system. I'm sure that others would like to borrow it that way. I'd really like to page through it at some point just to see. I bought the first edition when my college kid was a preschooler! I think that is a fabulous idea, I need to do the same with my libraries. That's how I read it the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insertcreativenamehere Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I requested it from my library and I'm first on the hold list! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runningmom80 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I'm loving it! I read the third edition about 5 years ago, when we first started homeschooling. This one makes classical seem more attainable. I still don't think I can be strict classical, especially with my oldest, but there is a lot of good stuff in there. The science sections alone were worth the $20 for the Kindle edition. I went from "meh, we'll get to science eventually," to "ALL THE SCIENCE AND MICROSCOPES AND PRETTY BOOKS!!!!" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohru Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I got mine today! So excited! I'm exhausted, but want to stay up and read instead of sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) soo annoyed, I'm 5th in line at the library. I might get it around Thanksgiving, if I am lucky. I can't BELIEVE I was so slow to get myself on the list...I'm usually better than that. Edited August 26, 2016 by redsquirrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsfamily Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 soo annoyed, I'm 5th in line at the library. I might get it around Thanksgiving, if I am lucky. I can't BELIEVE I was so slow to get myself on the list...I'm usually better than that. I'm 27th of 7 copies. I just didn't think my library system would order it that quickly so I didn't even check. Guess there was a rush to request it since they ordered 7 copies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 My library hasn't even ordered any copies yet. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeepa Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I'm loving it! I read the third edition about 5 years ago, when we first started homeschooling. This one makes classical seem more attainable. I still don't think I can be strict classical, especially with my oldest, but there is a lot of good stuff in there. The science sections alone were worth the $20 for the Kindle edition. I went from "meh, we'll get to science eventually," to "ALL THE SCIENCE AND MICROSCOPES AND PRETTY BOOKS!!!!" I agree with the bolded especially. I have the first and third editions too, but I think this one makes it seem actually doable. At least for me :001_smile: Loving the science sections too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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