And AGAIN - German Train Axe Attack in Heidingsfeld, Germany!

[TranquilMind]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36827725?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

 

 

21 injured so far, local sources are reporting. 

 

Just stop already.  What is wrong with this world and why are there so many lunatics out there today?

[TranquilMind]

Another report from a few minutes ago:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36827725

[Liz CA]

Good Grief! Awaiting further coverage.

[Guest]

I'm starting to dream of moving to a remote island off grid.

[TranquilMind]

I'm starting to dream of moving to a remote island off grid.

 

Me too.

 

I have a relative traveling on that train system today. 

[SparklyUnicorn]

Oh well that's crappy as hell.

 

 

[TravelingChris]

More terrorism.  THat makes two attacks in Europe this week with Nice being first.

[TammyinTN]

This was right outside of where we lived in Wuerzburg.  It makes my heart hurt!! 

[umsami]

So, it was a teenage unaccompanied Afghan refugee.

 

I'm grateful all he had was an axe.

 

Crazy.  Scary.  Keep reminding myself to not let the terrorists win by changing plans, etc.... but it's tough. 

[Kerileanne99]

So, it was a teenage unaccompanied Afghan refugee.

 

I'm grateful all he had was an axe.

 

Crazy. Scary. Keep reminding myself to not let the terrorists win by changing plans, etc.... but it's tough.

This makes me SO sad. The 2nd half of Calais refugee site is due to be raised, and one sticking point was what would happen to the unaccompanied minors? I fear this will be further fuel:(

[purplejackmama]

I'm starting to dream of moving to a remote island off grid.

With a Costco and Amazon Prime?! I'm in!

Edited July 19, 2016 by purplejackmama

[Guest]

With a Costco and Amazon Prime?! I'll in!

Yeah, there's that.

 

We have been warned by Kinsa (if you saw her post about Prime delivery to Middle-of-Nowhereville.)

[MomatHWTK]

The worldwide incidents are heartbreaking. Just reading about what doesn't make national news in any big city is heartbreaking as well. Chicago has had so many murders this year. It boggles the mind. : (

Edited July 19, 2016 by MomatHWTK

[SparklyUnicorn]

Ok but the elephant in the room is that had this been a gun attack there would have probably been 21 dead rather than injured.

 

Come on, SOMEONE had to point this out.  Might as well be me. 

[MercyA]

What a world. God have mercy on us.

[Murphy101]

Ok but the elephant in the room is that had this been a gun attack there would have probably been 21 dead rather than injured.

 

Come on, SOMEONE had to point this out. Might as well be me.

Okay but the other elephant in the room is that if they hadn't let in refugees, this attack wouldn't have happened at all.

 

Come on, SOMEONE had to point this out. Might as well be me.

[Murphy101]

Also can't help but notice no one seems to be making excuses of how it's no surprise a refugee would do this what with them not being treated fairly and welcoming by all Germans. (Unlike the French incidents.)

[ChocolateReignRemix]

Also can't help but notice no one seems to be making excuses of how it's no surprise a refugee would do this what with them not being treated fairly and welcoming by all Germans. (Unlike the French incidents.)

Except that wasn't said here about the French attacks. It was stated that marginalized populations make fertile recruiting grounds for extremists (and not just Islamic extremists).

[MomatHWTK]

Neither of those "elephants" even occurred to me. Is it really necessary to turn every human tragedy into an opportunity to score political points? Human beings, people, we are talking about human beings. Or at least those of us who aren't hunting elephants are. 

[Amira]

Another elephant in the room is that the recent shootings of police officers in the US appear to have been committed by people who were in the military in Iraq and Afghanistan. People who have been in traumatic situations, whether as solidiers or as refugees, often need significant emotion support but they too often don't get it.

[SparklyUnicorn]

Neither of those "elephants" even occurred to me. Is it really necessary to turn every human tragedy into an opportunity to score political points? Human beings, people, we are talking about human beings. Or at least those of us who aren't hunting elephants are. 

 

Nothing to do with political points for me.  I'm anti gun and I do believe if there were fewer guns in the hands of just anyone there would be fewer gun deaths.

 

On another note, the articles I'm reading this morning are saying only 4 people were injured and the rest of them were treated for just being upset and shocked by the event. 

[SparklyUnicorn]

Another elephant in the room is that the recent shootings of police officers in the US appear to have been committed by people who were in the military in Iraq and Afghanistan. People who have been in traumatic situations, whether as solidiers or as refugees, often need significant emotion support but they too often don't get it.

 

totally agree...they are not getting the help they need

[ChocolateReignRemix]

Okay but the other elephant in the room is that if they hadn't let in refugees, this attack wouldn't have happened at all.

 

Come on, SOMEONE had to point this out. Might as well be me.

 

You could also argue that the way the U.S. and other western nations have managed their involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq has directly lead to the current refugee crisis.

[SparklyUnicorn]

Also can't help but notice no one seems to be making excuses of how it's no surprise a refugee would do this what with them not being treated fairly and welcoming by all Germans. (Unlike the French incidents.)

 

It crosses my mind if I'm being brutally honest.  I try to be cool about this, but yes it crosses my mind.  But like any group of people there will be those who have major problems.  And that seems especially likely given what that person has possibly been through.  Or maybe not.  Maybe he was the exception and came from a perfectly pleasant circumstance and it turns out he has an illness like lots of other people who come from good circumstances.  I don't think it's fair to be suspicious of an entire group of people because of some troubled people.  There are troubled people everywhere.  Then again, it is understandable that people come to that conclusion.  Human nature probably. 

[Murphy101]

You could also argue that the way the U.S. and other western nations have managed their involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq has directly lead to the current refugee crisis.

Sure could. Could also argue that if the Middle East can ever get it together on its own, it'd be an end of times of miracle. And also could argue that the problem is western nations have not been committed enough to either take what they want from the ME or walk away and let the ME figure out for themselves all on their own.

[ktgrok]

Or...it could just be that an ax wielding maniac is an ax wielding maniac, and there is no deeper meaning to it than he was crazy. 

[ChocolateReignRemix]

Sure could. Could also argue that if the Middle East can ever get it together on its own, it'd be an end of times of miracle. And also could argue that the problem is western nations have not been committed enough to either take what they want from the ME or walk away and let the ME figure out for themselves all on their own.

Which are good examples as to why we shouldn't play what if. Although I do think our decision to take down a sovereign nation with no plan for afterwards has a very direct relationship to the current refugee crisis.