athomeontheprairie Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) Do ALL these words rhyme in your normal speech? I'm NOT asking if you can MAKE them rhyme (ie, when reading a rhyming book), but in your normal pronunciations do they rhyme Edited June 30, 2016 by athomeontheprairie Quote
Laura Corin Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 They all rhyme for me and also for my Scottish co-worker (although our vowel sounds are different, they are consistent in each of us). 1 Quote
GailV Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Hmmm, I had't noticed before -- "mink" is the odd one out for me. I tend to say it a bit more like "meenk" Quote
Plink Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 So curious which word is the odd one out for the 12% (so far) who have said no. Is it mink for all of you? I can't make mink sound like meenk without making a strange face. 1 Quote
maize Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Hmmm, I had't noticed before -- "mink" is the odd one out for me. I tend to say it a bit more like "meenk" So curious which word is the odd one out for the 12% (so far) who have said no. Is it mink for all of you? I can't make mink sound like meenk without making a strange face. They all rhyme for me, and all with a long E sound: reenk, seenk, theenk, meenk. 10 Quote
athomeontheprairie Posted June 30, 2016 Author Posted June 30, 2016 So curious which word is the odd one out for the 12% (so far) who have said no. Is it mink for all of you? I can't make mink sound like meenk without making a strange face. I edited the poll Quote
Guest Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 They all rhyme. How else could they be said? (???) Quote
Lecka Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I say think more like thank. I say "I thank so" and not "I think so." I say "let me thank." The other words I do say with the i like a "long e," and they all rhyme. If I make a point I can say think the same way, but it is not how I talk. 3 Quote
eternalsummer Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 they would all have rhymed for my dad, too, but they would have all sounded different from how I pronounce them :) (he would have said rank, sank, thank, mank) Quote
nature girl Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 They all rhyme, with a short i sound. Where are those of you who say them as 'ee' from? I've never heard them pronounced that way! 11 Quote
Laura Corin Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 They all rhyme, with a short i sound. Where are those of you who say them as 'ee' from? I've never heard them pronounced that way! Yes, all short 'i' as in 'pig'. My MIL would have made them 'ee'. In fact she would have put in an extra syllable (ree-ink). Texas. 3 Quote
nature girl Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Yes, all short 'i' as in 'pig'. My MIL would have made them 'ee'. In fact she would have put in an extra syllable (ree-ink). Texas. Oh yes, a twang, but I think the posters above were saying meenk rather than mee-ink. (I said I hadn't heard it pronounced as meenk, but now I'm picturing Zsa Zsa Gabor, lol...) Quote
Chelli Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 As a Southerner I usually pronounce thank and think the same way if I'm not paying attention. I try to not do it anymore but I still slip up. So in my normal conversation think would not rhyme with the others. If I'm attentive to my speech I would say think correctly. Quote
MerryAtHope Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 They all rhyme here :-). Pronunciation variances are always so interesting! 1 Quote
maize Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 As a Southerner I usually pronounce thank and think the same way if I'm not paying attention. I try to not do it anymore but I still slip up. So in my normal conversation think would not rhyme with the others. If I'm attentive to my speech I would say think correctly. Well, thank is the correct pronunciation if you still live in an area where that is the local dialect ;) 3 Quote
GailV Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 So curious which word is the odd one out for the 12% (so far) who have said no. Is it mink for all of you? I can't make mink sound like meenk without making a strange face. I don't know if anyone else would even notice that I'm saying it differently. I just happened to notice that the others are a very pure short i, but in "mink" I leave the gap between my upper back palate and tongue a bit more closed, perhaps due to the initial /m/. Maybe we lived in a different area when I learned that word, so the accent I heard and imitated was different. Quote
UCF612 Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 All rhyme for me. I say them with a long e sound. I'm from Florida, raised in a southern style area. I'm trying to say them with a short i and can't do it. 2 Quote
Jackie Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I say think more like thank. I say "I thank so" and not "I think so." I say "let me thank." The other words I do say with the i like a "long e," and they all rhyme. If I make a point I can say think the same way, but it is not how I talk. Exactly this for me. Though it's not *quite* "thank". Somewhere in between theenk and thank. For the record, I'm mostly from Indiana. Quote
Laura Corin Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 All rhyme for me. I say them with a long e sound. I'm from Florida, raised in a southern style area. I'm trying to say them with a short i and can't do it. Have a listen to the Brit pronunciation here: http://forvo.com/word/sink/#en Quote
athomeontheprairie Posted June 30, 2016 Author Posted June 30, 2016 Wow! I had no idea I was *such* a minority. I hate kid books, earlier reader type, that rhyme these words. Or use them in word families. Ugh. They don't rhyme! Except, clearly they rhyme to everyone else 😀 huh. I wonder how I learned it wrong. Even when I hear it spoken by others, or in a movie, I hear it the way I say it. Quote
Chelli Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Well, thank is the correct pronunciation if you still live in an area where that is the local dialect ;) Tell that to my mom! I was born and raised in Arkansas and she refused to let me speak with the common vernacular. I still picked up some Southern dialect and accent, but nothing like the way others in the Ozarks sounded! 2 Quote
SeaConquest Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I don't understand how you could make them with a short <i> sound. All of them are the <ee> sound for me in California. Think = Thank is just woah. 3 Quote
maize Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Wow! I had no idea I was *such* a minority. I hate kid books, earlier reader type, that rhyme these words. Or use them in word families. Ugh. They don't rhyme! Except, clearly they rhyme to everyone else 😀 huh. I wonder how I learned it wrong. Even when I hear it spoken by others, or in a movie, I hear it the way I say it. How do you say them? I don't think you learned them wrong, words are pronounced differently by different groups of people. Personally I am fascinated by the variations. Some people think it is weird that sell and sale and sail and hell and hail and gel and jail all rhyme to me. That doesn't make me think I learned them wrong, just that I grew up with people who used those pronunciations while some people grew up learning different pronunciations. 5 Quote
nature girl Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) So...when you listen to, say, national news broadcasts, or most TV shows, does it sound like everyone has an accent? This is fascinating to me, but I've only ever lived in one area. I don't understand how you could make them with a short <i> sound. All of them are the <ee> sound for me in California. Really? I have friends and family in California (northern) and none of them would say it with an ee. So I'm confused...Maybe I'm imagining the ee as more exaggerated than you all mean. Does the "meenk" sound like "mean" and "seenk" like "seen"? Edited June 30, 2016 by Anna's Mom 4 Quote
Farrar Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 They all rhyme for me, but I knew immediately that think was probably the odd one out for a few people. I know my southern speech patterns. Quote
foxbridgeacademy Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I say them with the long E but not a drawn out E. The Mink is bordering on sounding different but still mostly rhymes. 1 Quote
Paige Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 They all rhyme with ink for me. For those in the south who say "thank," do you live in smaller towns? I was raised in the south and have lived in other southern states, but only a very small minority of people I have met would say thank. But we always lived in bigger cities. 1 Quote
Lecka Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) I grew up in a town in Oklahoma that has more than 100,000 people now, probably 70,000 and up in my childhood. I don't think everyone there says "thank," but it is what I say. I think it blends in more than it might seem, I don't think it is noticeable or that I have much of an accent. I have lived a few places, my husband is in the Army and we talk to people from different parts of the country, and I don't think it is something that is jumping out at people. Edit: I don't think things sound like there is an accent, there is just some little variation to me in American English. But sometimes I think someone has a personally idiosyncratic way of talking, and it turns out to be how everyone talks where they are from. But it is not the same for me as listening to British English, where I do feel like I am listening to someone who is speaking with an accent. Everything that sounds like American English just sounds like some variations in American English, I don't have the feeling like I am listening to an accent. Edited June 30, 2016 by Lecka Quote
reign Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I am in Michigan and I use a long e. What about -ing- words? I taught my girls that with a long e as well. It was ang(long a) ing (long e) and ank (long a) ink(long e) 2 Quote
Lecka Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) Edit: I think I say ing words to rhyme and have long e, except thing I do say thing different ways. I say thang a little, but it is not exaggerated. It is a lot less of an a than how I say think. Edited June 30, 2016 by Lecka 1 Quote
Caviar Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 They all rhyme with ink for me. Me too. Michigan 1 Quote
Matryoshka Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 Have a listen to the Brit pronunciation here: http://forvo.com/word/sink/#en The last two Americans on that site also say it with short I, which is also how I pronounce them. :) Quote
Noreen Claire Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 They all rhyme with ink for me. Me, too. Just north of Boston. Get a few drinks in me, and my accent is wicked pissa! Quote
ReadingMama1214 Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 I pronounce them all with a short i. The thought that people use long e or short a sounds blows my mind. How?! They all rhyme with ink for me. 2 Quote
Ms.Ivy Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 I am a native Northern Californian and they all rhyme and have a long ee sound. I love learning about regional accents! 1 Quote
happypamama Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) Hmmmm. I first started to say that they all rhyme, but when I said them out loud, I found that I maybe say "think" slightly differently. Not as strong a short "i"/slight "ee" sound as the others, maybe a hint of a short "e" sound in it. But just a tiny bit. Edited July 1, 2016 by happypamama Quote
LindaOz Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 All rhyme in my Aussie english Yes, mine too ;) Quote
Laura Corin Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 The last two Americans on that site also say it with short I, which is also how I pronounce them. :) Yes, I agree. Quote
JulieA97 Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 For some reason I change the k in rink to a g so its ring. (reeng). Otherwise they all rhyme. I am a lifelong southerner; however I have been told my accent is not very pronounced. 1 Quote
Paige Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 I grew up in a town in Oklahoma that has more than 100,000 people now, probably 70,000 and up in my childhood. I don't think everyone there says "thank," but it is what I say. I think it blends in more than it might seem, I don't think it is noticeable or that I have much of an accent. I have lived a few places, my husband is in the Army and we talk to people from different parts of the country, and I don't think it is something that is jumping out at people. Edit: I don't think things sound like there is an accent, there is just some little variation to me in American English. But sometimes I think someone has a personally idiosyncratic way of talking, and it turns out to be how everyone talks where they are from. But it is not the same for me as listening to British English, where I do feel like I am listening to someone who is speaking with an accent. Everything that sounds like American English just sounds like some variations in American English, I don't have the feeling like I am listening to an accent. You're probably right. I bet I heard "thank" often and didn't even notice it. My mind probably translated it to think because it's what I expected. 1 Quote
ereks mom Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 They all rhyme for me, a native Georgia girl. Quote
LisaKinVA Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) I am in Michigan and I use a long e. What about -ing- words? I taught my girls that with a long e as well. It was ang(long a) ing (long e) and ank (long a) ink(long e)This. I'm a native Californian, Bay Area. Hubby, too (AR, though he had Speech Therapy, and speaks more like his Iowan parents). My kids, too...but I probably had something to do with that! Cambridge pronunciation guide for both UK and US English: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ink?q=Ink Edited July 1, 2016 by LisaK in VA is in IT Quote
LEK Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 They all rhyme here, short i in the middle and rhyme with ink I have never hears any of those words pronounced in a way where one (or more) would not rhyme with ink Quote
emmaluv+2more Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 The last two Americans on that site also say it with short I, which is also how I pronounce them. :) This is so strange and fascinating to me. I am from St. Louis and say them all with the long e sound. And all of those recordings sounded like long e to me as well. I have never noticed anyone ever using short I in these words...like thick. I just don't hear that in the recordings. 2 Quote
emmaluv+2more Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Those saying they are short I words that rhyme with ink (I assume you also say ink with a short I), how do you pronounce Tinkerbelle? Like as in tea or Tigger? Quote
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