s/o abusive teachers

[Katy]

I can't answer your poll because I don't consider anything from child molestation to statutory rape to be "having an affair". And I don't really understand how the issue has anything to do with the third question.

 

 

Just curious.  I knew a few students who were abused by a teacher, once witnessed a female gym teacher looking at porn, and noticed that a good 20% of the female teachers and one male teacher seemed to choose teaching to relive high school.  Just wondered how prevalent that is.

 

Also, now that I think about it, I think all of these incidents have contributed to choosing homeschool.

 

Edited to change the first question to be less offensive.

Edited June 10, 2016 by Katy

[Janeway]

I have a family member who is a teacher. She is one of the dumbest people I know. She is an advertisement for home schooling. Literally, she was fired from her first few districts and then was tenured so no one could fire her. They still force transfer her from place to place. I know she uses drugs. Doesn't matter. Public schools only drug test students, not the teachers. Her degree came from a very easy school that probably would be 10th tier if there were such a thing. She actually went back to get her masters degree. All her classes were online. She told me she got 25% of her grade for attendance (online!) and 50% for participation (online). It was a message board format and as long as she posted once a week, she got that credit. Same university. She is so dumb, she says kids should not have to study math, it is a waste of time. She never allowed her own kids to be given books for gifts and was very open with her opinion that books are not fun so she does not want them given books. Both her kids have been kicked out of public school while she made excuses for it. Her child who just finished 10th grade has been kicked out of 3 high schools so far. She is in some sort of drug recovery rehab high school now where she mostly works from home and shows up for meetings. She makes excuses for them and goes on and on about how "at least my kids are popular." Who are they popular with? Duh! Her daughter is all over social media and has even bragged about giving out sex for drugs. 

[Janeway]

My husband had a friend from middle school who had an affair with a teacher. He was murdered. The teacher and her husband got off scott free and are still teaching in Texas public school. You can Google Cadenhead and San Antonio for the story on that. It is so sad. I have met his parents and they are the sweetest kindest people.

 

 

[FaithManor]

I know two bizarrely immature individuals that teach high school and consider their own high school experiences to be "the glory days". They are not good at their jobs.

 

I do not know of anyone who has caught a teacher viewing porn at school, but my best friend in middle school walked into the library when most of the students were at a pep rally and found two teachers having sex on the librarian's desk.

 

I was groped more than once by my 7th grade history teacher who later on was investigated for 22 other molestation accusations and was fired when he turned out to be the father of a 13.5 year old student's baby. He was 29 years old at the time.

 

One of my male cousins had a sexual relationship with his high school English teacher. When he threatened to tell his folks, she told him she would do anything to keep him quiet so over the years he used her to get passwords to the school computer system to change his grades. He then went on to MIT on his false GPA and transcript. He was never caught. I think the Ferris Bueller movie may have been based on him, LOL.

 

That said, though I was only a young college student at the time, I could see the damage that the relationship had on him. It took him into his 40's before he was finally capable of a healthy romantic/sexual relationship.

[Arcadia]

My friend's husband, teacher and school basketball coach, had affairs with his student while on trips to basketball tournaments. She was considering marriage counseling and separation when she found out. I have never met or talk to her husband so I still vote No.

[Guest]

May I answer more fully on the first question?  

I went to my high school reunion (40th) last summer.  Two people from my high school (one a year ahead of me, one a year behind) married teachers shortly after the student turned 18.  ***Both couples are still married, have kids, grandkids.***  One of the couples, I asked point blank about it, and no it was not an affair, there was no sexual contact; I believe them.  They have nothing to lose at this point and it was a pretty open topic discussion where a lot weirder stuff came out.

 

They just hit it off.  They met during after-school club activities which were interest-based.  The age difference is less than 8 years with both couples.  One of the men had a hook prosthesis as he had lost his hand to cancer and had been dealing with that since college.  

 

I bring it up because I don't think it is good to pre-judge every situation and assume that there was misbehavior.  I feel the same way about other situations that are big in the news media at this time, but I don't have the spine to talk about that here.

 

[73349]

I knew one person in my teacher ed program who did not seem very mature or respectful of his students; he was evidently counseled out of the program, though, and did not become a teacher.

[Crimson Wife]

I know of one affair that for sure happened, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the creep math teacher who gave me a C+ rather than failing me in exchange for backrubs during my afterschool tutoring sessions had gone farther with other students. I felt pressured to go along with it because he taught every single one of the upper-level math courses so I couldn't just switch teachers. And I needed 4 years' worth of math credits to graduate & get into college. If some other student had ever come forward to accuse him publicly of impropriety, I would have spoken out against him. But I was too chicken to be the first.

[poppy]

I  know three teachers socially (not in my kids school) and they are all very reasonable, smart people. OK, one is kind of annoying, but, does nothing to shame her profession.Teachers in my state have to have Masters degrees. I know that's not the case everywhere, maybe that makes a difference?

[creekland]

Oh goody.  Another teacher bashing thread.

 

My time on the Hive has definitely come to its end.  It was a nice ride, but I'm not fond of what the boards seem to have become.  It's not "me" anymore, and since I no longer homeschool... well, it's time.

 

Best wishes to those still on here that I've enjoyed the journey with.  Best wishes to your kids too!

[Arcadia]

Oh goody. Another teacher bashing thread

:grouphug:

My niece and her husband are teachers in Australia. My dad is a retired teacher. I don't think this was meant to be a teacher bashing thread.

[LucyStoner]

I can't answer your poll because I don't consider anything from child molestation to statutory rape to be "having an affair". And I don't really understand how the issue has anything to do with the third question.

Edited June 10, 2016 by LucyStoner

[LucyStoner]

Oh goody. Another teacher bashing thread.

 

My time on the Hive has definitely come to its end. It was a nice ride, but I'm not fond of what the boards seem to have become. It's not "me" anymore, and since I no longer homeschool... well, it's time.

 

Best wishes to those still on here that I've enjoyed the journey with. Best wishes to your kids too!

I have benefited from a great many amazing teachers in my life. I have also known some teachers who sexually harassed or abused one or more students. I don't consider acknowledging the latter (much smaller number) to be bashing the former (much greater number). Sticking up for people who sexually harass or abuse children doesn't help or protect the profession.

[Mosaicmind]

When I was in high school, one of my best friends was dating our art/drama teacher during 11th and 12th grades. We all knew it, even some of the other teachers knew it because I went to a very tiny high school in OK. A year or so after graduation, they did get married but they aren't together anymore and it's been 30 years since my high school graduation.

 

My nephew was attending a high school in TX and his best friend was having an affair with a married teacher. The teacher told the friend that her husband beat her and she needed a way out of the marriage so that she could eventually marry my nephew's friend. One night my nephew and friend were let into her house very late by the teacher to do something to the husband. Both the friend and my nephew killed the husband and then took the teacher, and the three of them fled out of the state. I'm fuzzy on the details after but they ended up getting caught and my nephew got something like 25yrs in prison. I don't remember what happened to his friend or the teacher.

 

Where we are living, the local high school has been in the news every year (we've been here 4yrs). There's been teachers having sex with students, teachers having pornography on their computers, and teachers part of a sex ring that we had here recently. People wonder why we don't want our boys to go to the high school here?! Really? Do I need to spell it out for you. This stuff has also happened at a middle school here also.

[Anne in CA]

Don't see how pretending some people in authority don't abuse it is bashing??? I have many relatives who are wonderful teacher. I two great, wonderful teachers and had some horrific teachers in school and my oldest had a couple of really bad ones. I don't see how honest discussion is bashing??? I am one of the people who said yes, I know someone abused by a teacher. She was the pregnant 15yo I mentioned on the other thread. She did not deserve that AT ALL. My sister's BFF was not sure if she had an issue or if it was an accident. So, in my case it might be two, but I answered the poll as one.

 

I really like Creekland. But I won't pretend all teachers are heroes. They are people. Some of them become teachers to relive glory days, some of them become teachers to abuse authority.

 

I found out the hard way that some people become social workers to abuse authority. It was a yucky lesson. I would never pretend all social workers are great, but I would always acknowledge that many social workers do amazing things and help lots of people.

[bettyandbob]

Porn and sexual relationships is really not in my experience in my district. Not when i was in school in the 1970s and not today. 

 

This thread is just weird to me. 

[bettyandbob]

Porn and sexual relationships is really not in my experience in my district. Not when i was in school in the 1970s and not today. 

 

This thread is just weird to me. 

[Joker]

All of my siblings are teachers. It's not bashing to acknowledge there are bad ones. Unfortunately all of my siblings have known educators removed for inappropriate relationships. It happens and we shouldn't pretend it doesn't to spare feelings. Both of my dds are in high school and we've had discussions about not putting yourself in those positions. It seems common sense for them to avoid private situations with teachers.

[Pen]

What constitutes having "an affair" for the first question?

[DawnM]

Family?  No.  

 

I worked with a few who were accused of child molestation, some falsely and a couple accurately.

 

And I also was friends with someone who is currently serving 24 years (he is 14 years in) who was a teacher at an elem. school.

 

Here is his story:

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/sep/20/local/me-jason20

 

I actually know quite a bit more than the article says because I was involved in sitting in his trial, talking to his parents, and talking to mutual friends.  There are about 5 "sides" to the story and I really don't know which or if any are the actual truth.

[SproutMamaK]

There was one teacher in our high school who made me answer yes to all these questions. He was creepy. Worse buttons down shirts undone to his navels and leered at all the girls. Was known to watch porn on his laptop during lunch hour, though I never personally saw it (never would have visited him for help during breaks, especially not on my own). Had an affair with at least one student, probably more. Administration knew and yet somehow he was still there every year. Surprisingly, he was actually good at teaching (history), he made it interesting for the students... but he was a creep and should never have been allowed in a classroom.

 

Aside from that one guy, never heard anything untoward about any other teachers in any other school I've attended or had family/friends/the children of such attend.

[SKL]

A certain art teacher comes to mind re the "wanting to re-live high school" question.  :P

 

I had good teachers and inept teachers in middle / high school, but I have to say they were all responsible with the students AFAIK - except for one Jr High band teacher who was fired instantly for slapping a teen girl on the butt.  No idea what he was thinking.

[gardenmom5]

by far the most dysfunctional and immature teacher was one math teacher dd had in high school.  he admitted he was in his SEVENTH career.  at 35.   he was teaching the honor kids/ib dips math class.  so, the kids who *want* to learn higher math and do their work. the kids most teachers dream about teaching.  within two months there were so many complaints about his juvenile and petty behavior towards the students the school was assuring parents he wouldn't be back the next year - but they couldn't just fire him - union rules. (though he deserved to be. they would have had to find another teacher on short notice.)

 

he regularly took things students said personally.  he once asked dd how he could 'relate better to the other students'.   dd, being very precocious and having seen her friends she felt unjustly reprimanded and punished because his ego was bruised, kept her mouth shut.  (she also completely tuned him out.  she wrote down the math assignment on the board, then went home and read the book.  she didn't learn squat from him.)

 

I do know of two teachers in middle school who were having an affair,  and another who drank in the classroom. (trying to remember if  he was the one who physically manhandled a student.  the teachers backed him up claiming the student was out of line.  I don't know.)    one male in high school who ogled girls.

Edited June 10, 2016 by gardenmom5

[gardenmom5]

What constitutes having "an affair" for the first question?

 

good point.  a *student*, by definition, cannot ​have an affair with a teacher.  it is an unequal relationship.  the student, especially a minor, cannot legitimately consent.

[gardenmom5]

When I was in high school, one of my best friends was dating our art/drama teacher during 11th and 12th grades. We all knew it, even some of the other teachers knew it because I went to a very tiny high school in OK. A year or so after graduation, they did get married but they aren't together anymore and it's been 30 years since my high school graduation.

 

My nephew was attending a high school in TX and his best friend was having an affair with a married teacher. The teacher told the friend that her husband beat her and she needed a way out of the marriage so that she could eventually marry my nephew's friend. One night my nephew and friend were let into her house very late by the teacher to do something to the husband. Both the friend and my nephew killed the husband and then took the teacher, and the three of them fled out of the state. I'm fuzzy on the details after but they ended up getting caught and my nephew got something like 25yrs in prison. I don't remember what happened to his friend or the teacher.

 

Where we are living, the local high school has been in the news every year (we've been here 4yrs). There's been teachers having sex with students, teachers having pornography on their computers, and teachers part of a sex ring that we had here recently. People wonder why we don't want our boys to go to the high school here?! Really? Do I need to spell it out for you. This stuff has also happened at a middle school here also.

 

that's grooming by the teacher - and I don't believe a word she claims that her dh abused her. 

 

I don't remember the name of a teacher who did that was all over the news.  the boy who actually killed her dh was recently paroled -  the dh's family supported it.  it was so obvious he had issues she completely took advantage of him, manipulated and twisted to get him to do her dirty work.  the teacher got a lifetime sentence and is still whining about how she is innocent and doesn't deserve to be in jail.

 

eta: when the media interviewed her after her dh was murdered, but before they had a suspect, she was immaculetly groomed, etc.  after the two boys were arrested - she was a mess.  then she was arrested.

I looked it up - the teacher in this case was pamela smart.  (she was 22 at the time.)

Edited June 10, 2016 by gardenmom5

[nd293]

My mother worked in a school and there was male teacher who was moved from high school to primary school because he was 'socialising' with his students. In the primary school (where my mother worked) he encouraged students to take money that was found in a desk. One of the children told their parent. The teacher was fired after that.

 

At dd's current school there is one teacher who I've told dd never to be alone with under any circumstances. Never met him, but kids have described his as 'creepy' among other less polite phrases. That's not enough information to act on but I'm going to trust the kids' instincts on this...

 

We had a few immature teachers but nothing terrible. Ours was a 100 year old girls' school though, and a certain image was upheld. There was one teacher who hung out socially during recess with girls from her ethnic group. I was always in top academic classes though, and we usually had the more senior teachers.

[HS Mom in NC]

None that I know of had an affair, but in the 1950s my mother was fondled by a male teacher in elementary school and told her parents right away. My grandmother immediately went to the school and told the principal.  Unfortunately she was of a generation that put waaay to much trust in an authority figure and he told her she could trust him to take care of it, so she trusted him. Law enforcement was never contacted.  He wasn't fired.

No teacher of mine K-12 had any sort of immature attitude.  They were very boring, adult types.

[Crimson Wife]

It happens and we shouldn't pretend it doesn't to spare feelings. Both of my dds are in high school and we've had discussions about not putting yourself in those positions. It seems common sense for them to avoid private situations with teachers.

 

I was ordered by my parents to get tutoring from the creep math teacher because I was failing calculus. I certainly had no desire to be alone with him in an interior classroom that didn't have any windows after school, but I wasn't given a choice about it. I could've told them what was happening but I wanted to pass the class so that I could graduate & attend college. Since he fortunately never pushed the quid pro quo with me beyond backrubs, I kept my mouth shut about it. I'm not sure whether he was waiting for me to turn 18 or to offer more in exchange for an even higher grade, but I was lucky that it wasn't a more intimate act he was demanding from me.

[Carrie12345]

I can't say with 100% certainty what was going on at the time, but there were rumors about a classmate and a teacher.  They eventually got married and had kids.  He's more than a decade older.  He continues to have a successful career, and was a superior to other employees who were investigated for "inappropriate relationships".

[Carrie12345]

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[Carrie12345]

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[Katy]

Oh, sorry.  This is what happens when you create a poll when overtired.  I figured "abuse" in the thread title covered that affairs with authority figures cannot be consensual.  Will edit.

[Lang Syne Boardie]

I couldn't answer the poll b/c of the wording ("affair" is incorrect, as has been pointed out), also because I personally know one case, so I couldn't answer "multiple" or "me."

 

I don't think it's bashing teachers to talk about this. I think if we, as a society, do NOT talk about this, that's worse.

 

Ditto for abusive clergy, including those of specific religious denominations who are known to sweep abuses under the rug, or transfer offenders within their organization and across state lines (giving them new fields of innocent victims), rather than prosecute.

 

Just as awareness of predatory teachers does not denigrate schools, telling the truth about predatory church workers does not denigrate religion. In both cases, the offenders are the ones offending, not the ones who notice the offenders and talk about them.

 

Edited:

 

I know more than one case. I was thinking of the victim, that I only knew one victim personally (not counting rumors and suppositions). I forgot to think of the perpetrator. I know a man who sexually assaulted a student, when he was a high school band teacher. He served his time (not much) and is not allowed to work with minors anymore. He's not a friend of mine, by any means, but I had to learn his story as he became tangentially involved with a not-for-profit organization that I'm involved with, and I needed to know so that my children would never meet him. They haven't.

 

 

Edited June 10, 2016 by Tibbie Dunbar

[Valley Girl]

I couldn't answer the poll b/c of the wording ("affair" is incorrect, as has been pointed out), also because I personally know one case, so I couldn't answer "multiple" or "me."

 

I don't think it's bashing teachers to talk about this. I think if we, as a society, do NOT talk about this, that's worse.

 

Ditto for abusive clergy, including those of specific religious denominations who are known to sweep abuses under the rug, or transfer offenders within their organization and across state lines (giving them new fields of innocent victims), rather than prosecute.

 

Just as awareness of predatory teachers does not denigrate schools, telling the truth about predatory church workers does not denigrate religion. In both cases, the offenders are the ones offending, not the ones who notice the offenders and talk about them.

 

Edited:

 

I know more than one case. I was thinking of the victim, that I only knew one victim personally (not counting rumors and suppositions). I forgot to think of the perpetrator. I know a man who sexually assaulted a student, when he was a high school band teacher. He served his time (not much) and is not allowed to work with minors anymore. He's not a friend of mine, by any means, but I had to learn his story as he became tangentially involved with a not-for-profit organization that I'm involved with, and I needed to know so that my children would never meet him. They haven't.

 

I agree. Clergy who abuse their trust (and those who hide their crimes) have been rightfully criticized on this forum. Police who abuse their power have been criticized. Why should teachers who abuse their position be free from scrutiny and discussion? These are all positions of public trust and power. It's keeping these abuses quiet that allows them to continue. I've had some amazing teachers in my life. My kids have had some amazing teachers. I'm deeply grateful to them for their dedication and their genuine love for their students. Same thing for wonderful priests, ministers, and other religious leaders and police officers who go the extra mile to protect and serve. That doesn't mean I don't want to see the bad ones exposed and prosecuted.

[amy g.]

A friend in 7th grade was "going out" with our history teacher. I don't know if the relationship was sexual at that point, but it was inappropriate to me. When she turned 18 they got married and are still married today as far as I know. That does not negate how wrong a romantic relationship is between any child and teacher.

 

That same year, we had a math teacher who was really offensive. He would say things like, "Come and sit on my lap and I'll give you a 69 on your test." We were 12!

 

I am both a former public school teacher and a Catholic. I don't consider this thread bashing. Talking about these perhaps rare yet still very real issues is the only way to protect children.

[SparklyUnicorn]

I have never heard of this personally. 

 

I've had teachers even give me a ride home and do other stuff to help me out.  There was nothing more to it than helping me out.  But oh that would never happen now.  People would flip. 

 

I've encountered teachers who were abusive in other ways though.  Verbally abusive, etc. 

 

 

[InParadisum]

I don't know of any instance personally where there was a teacher/student relationship, but I can personally attest to teachers behaving as if they were one of the students. I had a teacher who would gossip with her students about other students and teachers. Her husband, who worked there too, was a sports coach and teacher. As I was walking down the crowded hallway, I overheard the teacher tell his student/player "Ask her, she's cute." They were assessing which girl was cute enough for the student to ask to homecoming. There were others, but those two stood out to me.

 

The three best teachers I had in high school were also the least popular among the students. They challenged us, made us think critically, and had high expectations of our behavior and work ethic. Other students said they were "mean" but I enjoyed their classes.

 

The overall subpar teaching is what made me realize that, when my children were school-aged, they would NOT be in the same school environment I was (I live in the same area). I am convinced and very confident I can do a better job.

[Library Momma]

I never witnessed sexual relationships or p*rn during my time in school or even during my dc's school experiences.  One person who I have ever only known as an adult did tell me that when she was in high school during the 70s she had a sexual relationship with a teacher.  She said that she flirted and came on to him for a year at school and each time he rebuffed her advances.  Finally one day she found out where he lived and biked to his house.  She went in through open sliders in the back, got naked and got into his bed.  The first time she did this he sent her home.  The second time he did not.  She actually looks back fondly on the experience and can't understand why I am horrified.

[Bluegoat]

I don't actually know what my family members have seen for the most part. 

 

I never knew a teacher to have an affair with a student.  There was a teacher I had who was accused of somesort of inappropriate conduct a few years after I graduated.  I was surrised and a little suspicious - it seemed to me he was the sort of guy that might be falsly accused.  My mom, who went to high school with him, felt the same way.  I don't know what came of the accusation in the end but I know the whole thing dragged on for several years without being resolved.

 

I've never seen a teacher viewing porn.  I know the husband of my cousin was the union rep for caretakers in his school system, and one guy was caught red handed looking at porn on a school computer.  My cousin's husband was so ticked off, because the employees had all been told many many times never to do that, and now they had to provide legal representation for the guy.

 

I had a teacher who probably wasn't trying to be like a kid, but to some extent he was.  I think he, like a lot of people in his generation in my area, got into teaching because at the time it wasn't hard and a good, union job.  He was, and is, actually rather good friends to some of my uncles and their cousins, they all went to high school together, and for a lot of them that seems to have been their best era.  I never heard of him doing anything inappropriate though, and in fact as far as I could tell from my family members, he didn't seem interested in that sort of thing much at all.

 

 

[snowbeltmom]

There was a student in my class who was involved with a married teacher/coach.  The guy's mil was also a teacher at the high school and was the student's next door neighbor.  The student and the teacher were not in the least discreet.  The teacher ended up divorcing his wife (the other teacher's daughter).  The student and the teacher were married soon after the student graduated.

 

There were rumors of other teachers being involved in students.  I hope my high school experience is not typical, though.  Drugs were rampant and the smell of pot was overwhelming at times.  The year after I graduated, the truant officer was busted for selling drugs, so maybe the drug problem improved after that snake was arrested.

 

I get the occasional remark that my kids are missing the high school experience by homeschooling.  Boy, I wish I would have been so lucky!

[Daria]

I couldn't really answer the poll, because the last question didn't make sense to me. 

 

I'm a teacher, so I probably know more teachers than most people.  I have never been aware of a teacher having an affair with a student, although I have been aware of a teacher abusing a child in our community.  It wasn't a teacher I know personally.  I have been aware of a teacher looking at porn, but have not observed them doing so.  The teacher was identified because they were taking up a lot of bandwidth and someone looked at the computer log, not because someone saw them doing so.  

 

I know teachers who enjoyed school, and remember their teachers fondly, and became teachers in part because they wanted to be part of making sure that students had similarly positive experiences.

 

I also know teachers who did not enjoy school, and wanted to make sure that their own students had a different experience.

 

I am not sure I see why either of those is worse or better than the other.

 

 

[EKS]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that not all sexual/romantic relationships between a teacher and student are inappropriate.

[Crimson Wife]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that not all sexual/romantic relationships between a teacher and student are inappropriate.

 

If we're talking K-12, then I'm going to disagree. College/grad school is different because the students are adults rather than minors. My aunt had a long-term relationship with one of her grad school professors, but not until after she finished his class. Dating a professor as a 20something grad student is not automatically inappropriate. A high school (or worse middle school) student dating a teacher is because the student is a minor.

[EKS]

If we're talking K-12, then I'm going to disagree. College/grad school is different because the students are adults rather than minors. My aunt had a long-term relationship with one of her grad school professors, but not until after she finished his class. Dating a professor as a 20something grad student is not automatically inappropriate. A high school (or worse middle school) student dating a teacher is because the student is a minor.

 

Every situation is unique.

[Valley Girl]

Every situation is unique.

 

I'm sure it seems unique to the people involved. That doesn't mean it is. Bottom line, these "relationships" are an abuse of trust and power. I don't care what the motivation or excuse du jour is. Yes, I am unapologetically judgmental about it.

[gardenmom5]

If we're talking K-12, then I'm going to disagree. College/grad school is different because the students are adults rather than minors. My aunt had a long-term relationship with one of her grad school professors, but not until after she finished his class. Dating a professor as a 20something grad student is not automatically inappropriate. A high school (or worse middle school) student dating a teacher is because the student is a minor.

 

k-12 - never ok.  if they like each other that much, they can wait until the student GRADUATES to get invovled.  (NOT 'just' turns 18.)

 

professors shoudln't be dating students - that is still an unequal relationship where the student's grade (having an impact on other classes and education and career opportunities) can be affected for good or ill by a relationship.

if they don't have a class together, and won't have future classes together, then it could be ok depending upon circumstances.

[Callie]

When I was in 8th grade a male teacher was fired for having a sexual relationship with a student.

 

A male in my family had a sexual relationship with a female English teacher in 9th grade.  He rode his bike to her apartment for "tutoring".  I didn't know about until he told me as adults.

 

When I was in 10th/11th grade one of my close friends had a sexual relationship with a teacher.  She told her parents that she was going to night school for extra credits and would meet him at a motel or his house 2x's a week.  I was horrified and it ended our friendship because she later involved me without my knowledge in the coverup.  He was fired and she left the school for the rest of high school.  Her parents still to this day will not speak to me or even make eye contact when I see them.  I had absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

In the early 90's a was a elementary school secretary and a male teacher was arrested for molesting several 5th grade girls who were in an extra curricular that he ran.

 

Just last week my neighboring county arrested a high school coach/teacher (male) for sexual relations with several female students.

 

Yep all four of my children were home schooled from day one.

[Callie]

Oh goody.  Another teacher bashing thread.

 

My time on the Hive has definitely come to its end.  It was a nice ride, but I'm not fond of what the boards seem to have become.  It's not "me" anymore, and since I no longer homeschool... well, it's time.

 

Best wishes to those still on here that I've enjoyed the journey with.  Best wishes to your kids too!

Nope.  My mother, two sisters-in-law, grandmother and at least 5 or 6 aunts are currently or have retired from teaching.  Not bashing at all.  Just stating facts.

[Daria]

Nope.  My mother, two sisters-in-law, grandmother and at least 5 or 6 aunts are currently or have retired from teaching.  Not bashing at all.  Just stating facts.

 

Sometimes teachers molest children.  That's a fact.

 

If you tell a story about a specific time you saw a teacher using porn.  That's a fact.

 

Speculating that teachers just want to "relive the glory of their high school days"?  Or implying that there's some kind of connection between a teacher being "immature" and rape?  That's teacher bashing.

[gardenmom5]

Sometimes teachers molest children.  That's a fact.

 

If you tell a story about a specific time you saw a teacher using porn.  That's a fact.

 

Speculating that teachers just want to "relive the glory of their high school days"?  Or implying that there's some kind of connection between a teacher being "immature" and rape?  That's teacher bashing.

 

that isnt' bashing - that's speculation on what motivates 'some teachers' (especially female teachers) to get involved with teen or even 'tween age boys.  one motivation among many.  some are simply peds who go into a field they can have easy access to children.

being aware of what motivates a teacher to abuse a student is the first step in finding ways to prevent it from  happening.

 

saying all teachers only going into teaching to "relive their glory days" would be bashing.  saying all male teachers are pervs who want easy access to children is bashing.

 

some teachers are fabulous and their students lives are bettered for being in their classroom.

 

some teachers have no business around children and some belong in jail.  that's fact.

 

NO ONE is bashing teachers.