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I read this is OG, but wondering how it might fit in with Barton. Ds is starting Barton 4 but he only gets 1-1.5 hours per week, and I like to supplement just a little. I've been using AAR but he's bored and who can blame him. Would this be better?

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Maybe you would like to supplement with something that is a game instead, like Nessy.com or something that isn't a whole program in itself.

I am not doing Barton but I did look through the reading lessons through literature. I think supplementing with another program would be too much for me.

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Ds is fat to smart to actually buy into "learning is a game". 😂

 

I can't even tell you how many times I've tried that! Haha

 

I was hoping the reading would be just more reading.

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I used to own RLTL and we are currently using Barton.  Granted, we aren't to level 4 so maybe someone else will have better advice.  I personally wouldn't supplement with RLTL unless you have your tutor look through it all and verify he has already covered it all in Barton.  You can view samples on lulu.com.  It teaches all phonograms up front and all spelling rules as they arise in each word (there isn't enough review or practice with each concept/rule at one time to make it stick for my DD).  Spelling words are taught for the Elson readers in order of each story and new words in each story.  They are not organized by type at all the way Barton organizes them.  I am pretty sure that the silent e (which I believe is Barton level 6?) is taught in level 1 of RLTL. 

Could your tutor send home practice pages for you? 

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Ditto on the extra reader practice books specifically from Barton and the spelling success games. It will most likely be less confusing for him if you stick with one program. He may realize it is school and not a game and that is fine if he just does it for school, kwim?

 

If he is working with a tutor then I would check to see that he has covered the material in the books and games you plan to supplement with.

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RLTL is pretty different from Barton. However I am using Blend Phonics and Webster's speller, following a schedule from this page, http://www.thephonicspage.org/On%20Reading/howtotutor.html that follows the Barton progression pretty closely. My dd is on lesson 2 of Barton level 4, so just a bit ahead of your son, and we are going to to use these other lessons to work strictly on reading for a while. You could definitely supplement with this.

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Does he like the extra books from Barton or even the Spelling Success games?  If you have a tablet, what about getting a list of words from the tutor that you can put into Quizlet?

These really might be the better option.

 

OP, I think you are right that supplementing with something else during the rest of the week if he is only getting 1 to 1.5 hours of tutoring each week makes sense but I would not use that program.

 

I realize he is bored and adding in more Barton is not what you or he were probably hoping for but what you are shooting for is a minimum of 2 hours of Barton each week for long term retention.  If the tutor is unavailable to provide 2 hours of tutoring a week, it would make more sense for you to add in maybe 15-20 minutes of Barton review on the days he isn't being tutored.   Look at the extra books from Barton, the Spelling Success games, the games that imagine.moore has created (I will try and find the link), extra practice pages the tutor can provide you, plus spelling and sight words from Barton you can enter into Quizlet for review and games your child can play.  Even just 15 minutes a day of Barton based review/reinforcement on the days he isn't with the tutor could make a tremendous difference.   Have you tried the Spelling Success games?  They aren't bad and he might be o.k. with those.

 

As for reading practice outside of Barton, I would let him read silently on his own if he voluntarily picks up a book but I would not be incorporating out loud reading from any other program until he has made it through Level 4.  

 

What he really needs while he is learning to read is exposure.  Let him listen to audio books (if he had a device like  a Kindle that he could carry around and use headsets that might give him a feeling of Independence) and do a lot of read alouds if he is willing.  He needs to build up vocabulary/grammar/concepts through exposure to literature.  Give him that exposure through other medium while he works through learning to read efficiently.

 

The other thing you might look at is Reading Detective, Inference Jones and Mind Benders from the Critical Thinking Company.  If you read the material to him so his decoding/encoding weaknesses wouldn't bog him down he could still be working on other parts of reading skills like deductive reasoning and inference, etc.  and he might find those more interesting.

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He hates the extra Barton stories. I can't blame him--they are like reading nursery rhymes without the wit. He wants to read interesting stories with an actual plot. He is as frustrated as I am, and I'm pretty frustrated.

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They are frustratingly "ugh" and that is why we don't count them as fun stories they are reading exercises. I couldn't write anything better considering the vocab restraints. I read real stories to him and he has a Kindle Fire to listen to Audio books for fun and building vocab and getting exposure to more interesting plots, ideas, wit, and a broader knowledge base. That is huge too because the vocab later in Barton is not really normal for that age level and it will be easier for him if he has a more extensive vocab.

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