Who has done History of the Ancient World?- questions

[2_girls_mommy]

Question #1

 

We will be using this next year for 9th grade.  Do I need the teaching and study guide for an additional $20, or are the instructions in WTM easy enough to follow? How did it work for you?

 

For more info, in general, I have found the instructions for history in WTM to be enough for me for logic stage. I found the same to be true in grammar stage for writing instruction.  I probably could have gotten some great help with say WWE, but I felt comfortable with using WTM's ideas and implementing on my own.  $20 is steep to add on to the book.  But if it is really helpful, say as helpful as the SOTW AGs have been, I  might be interested.  What is included in this guide that is different from the WTM how to's?

 

Question #2

And a totally unrelated question..  but while I am here I will ask.

 

In the 4 year rotation, which I have followed from 1-8th grade, how do these new books fit in? There is the Ancients for 9th grade.  But then there are a Middle Ages and a Renaissance.  Do you do both of those in one year? Or are those the first 3 years then we do moderns completely the last year? It seems broken up differently from SOTW 1-4. 

Edited April 18, 2016 by 2_girls_mommy

[laughing lioness]

We have simply read and discussed The History of Ancient World, et al, so haven't used the guides at all. We have pretty deep discussions and my kids stop, really look at the maps and look up stuff based on the reading. However, my kids don't really like study or activity guides and while they listened and read SOTW enough times to have parts memorized we never did the SG or the AG's with any of them. 

My ds 16 is reading the History of the Ren World for fun. Medieval and Ren World are both huge, deep books. We always have another history going so I wouldn't do them both in one year. 

Is there going to be a Modern Age? Can't wait! 

btw- if you are a serious history buff, check out Old Western Cultures by Roman Roads Media. We are LOVING them! 

Edited April 19, 2016 by laughing lioness

[2_girls_mommy]

Will do, thank you.

 

I don't know anything about another level in the works. I would just do Am. Hist/moderns with something else, probably whatever WTM suggests.  I'm just wondering how her suggested cycle would now look.  It used to be ancients, then middle ages-renaissance, then early moderns, then moderns.  I am guessing that those are both full year books. So would the modern suggestions now change to something for a one year study?

 

The WTM vol. 3 was written before these two were out, so I am wondering what the overall plan is now. I guess there is a new version of WTM coming out.  Maybe our library will get the updated version.  I am just starting to plan our high school here and feeling it all out.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.  I am still wondering what is in the study guide. I hope somebody has seen them and can give me an idea. PHP (WTMP) also has maps for $4 to go along. I'll probably pick those up.

[2_girls_mommy]

good idea! Thanks.

[Starr]

Dd used it before without a study guide. I'm not sure there was one. She read, discussed and wrote papers.

[kiwi mum]

Have you looked at the samples on the Peace Hill Press site? Here. 104 sample pages should give you a decent idea what it is like.

[2_girls_mommy]

Perfect. That is what I need.  I didn't notice that link before.

[charlotteb]

I have used HOAW with both of my older children.  When DS used it, there was no study guide yet.  So we just read it and discussed.  Now older DD is using it with the study guide and I like it so much better! There are some basic questions, map exercises, and critical thinking questions.  I think it rounds the program out very nicely.  We do two lessons a week with no history on Thursdays.  One day to read the lesson and the next day to answer the questions.  We also follow the WTM history high school reading lists so she gets lots of reinforcement from there as well. 

 

From what I understand, the intended cycle is :

9th- ancients

10-middle ages

11- renaissance (which would include early modern)

12- modern

 

DS only did ancients and middle ages because the other books were not out yet.  I believe SWB has up to renaissance out now.  Hopefully she has modern by the time DD is in 12th grade!