Suzuki like plan for LA or Math - I don't think this exists

[Kendall]

I was talking to the Dad of a new homeschool family (K student) and the Dad is a Suzuki strings teacher.  With Suzuki he knew that you work through books 1 through 10 and then you say what concerto do you want to play next.   You work at the child's pace and adjust things as needed, but you have this basic sequence you go through.

 

He wants that for homeschool, particularly math and language arts.  This way they won't be missing anything.  I told him that one the one hand you have that with any math program and at least pieces of LA depending on the program, but on the other hadn't I've spent 19 years trying to hone in on what that is for LA and that such a thing already laid out for you doesn't really exist.  Or at least not one that I think is perfect.  

 

I also addressed the fact that each math/LA curriculum has it's own order and its own things that are included/excluded.  There isn't a single Scope and Sequence out there.

 

Thoughts?

 

Kendall 

[Ms.Ivy]

IEW was written with principles from the Suzuki method in mind. More info about this can be found:

https://www.circeinstitute.org/podcast/quiddity-55-andrew-pudewa

http://iew.com/help-support/blog/iew-and-suzuki-method

 

But as far as a complete LA and Math.... there are just too many variables. There really are a lot of great options available to help educate our kids, but no guarantees.

[Rosie_0801]

People can study maths and English for their whole lives, so the one true and perfect program for school kids can't exist.

 

Basically, we all have to pick programs that we can tolerate administering and the kids can learn from. If one program per subject achieves that, yippee! If not, you become one of those enthusiasts that uses three maths programs and that's also a legitimate way to live. :p

 

So, basically, you are right and he will have to play around a bit until he can wrap his head around it.  :coolgleamA:

[Arcadia]

Saxon math is probably as spiral as Suzuki music which is probably why my kids run away from both.

[kitten18]

IEW was written with principles from the Suzuki method in mind. More info about this can be found:

https://www.circeinstitute.org/podcast/quiddity-55-andrew-pudewa

http://iew.com/help-support/blog/iew-and-suzuki-method

 

But as far as a complete LA and Math.... there are just too many variables. There really are a lot of great options available to help educate our kids, but no guarantees.

Yeah, I would suggest he listen to some of Andrew Pudewa's podcasts. I would think they would really speak to him.

[Kendall]

Yes, I love listening to Andrew Pudewa.  He and I don't agree on math though...  I think I have a talk of his on memorizing or maybe it was reading aloud.  I'll look for it.

[HS Mom in NC]

The two Suzuki strings teachers that homeschool their kids that I personally know both said they chose Saxon Math because they think it resembles Suzuki. 

[wintermom]

Well, if one was to go with the Suzuki model, all the Suzuki strings teachers I know add in technique, songs and ensemble pieces along the way eventually, as the Suzuki books don't include these. Were the Suzuki books ever meant to be a 'stand alone' series of books? I doubt it, really. There is just too much excellent information available to limit yourself to just one program.

 

For this father in his homeschool journey, I'd probably tell him to use the principles of Suzuki, and supplement with things needed to individualize the student's development.

Edited April 9, 2016 by wintermom

[musicianmom]

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Edited May 22, 2022 by musicianmom