Eng. Comp I and II in same semester? Thoughts or btdt?

[clementine]

My dd was not able to get into Comp 1 as a freshman because her ACT score was too high to allow her to take a typical class - she was only eligible for a 'large section' and there was only 1 or 2 of those.  As a freshman, registering last, the sections were full.  

 

Anyway, to give you more info, her Eng was a 35 and Reading was a 32.  Both Comp classes are writing intensive, and she is a student athlete.  

 

Anyone have a student take both of these in the same semester?  Any advice you can give her?

[G5052]

Most schools won't allow that because Comp 1 is a prerequisite for Comp 2. My oldest is a solid writer, but dislikes it. I can't imagine having him take both in a semester. We've spread out his writing-intensive classes very carefully.

[clementine]

Most schools won't allow that because Comp 1 is a prerequisite for Comp 2. My oldest is a solid writer, but dislikes it. I can't imagine having him take both in a semester. We've spread out his writing-intensive classes very carefully.

Comp 1 is a pre-req, but that can be over-ridden with an ACT score above 26 (I think) in that subject.  

[Elise]

What else will she be taking? Can you get an idea of the work load by looking at ratemyprofessor and checking out student reviews?  We've found that to be helpful when trying to gauge how many papers may be required.

 

I'd be a little leery of doing both at once if you're not sure of the requirements.  Dd1 is taking Honors Comp 2 this semester, and it has been a bear.  She has probably written 300 pages so far - they have a behemoth research paper for this course.  She's thankful that she doesn't have too many other papers to write at the same time.

 

 

[clementine]

What else will she be taking? Can you get an idea of the work load by looking at ratemyprofessor and checking out student reviews?  We've found that to be helpful when trying to gauge how many papers may be required.

 

I'd be a little leery of doing both at once if you're not sure of the requirements.  Dd1 is taking Honors Comp 2 this semester, and it has been a bear.  She has probably written 300 pages so far - they have a behemoth research paper for this course.  She's thankful that she doesn't have too many other papers to write at the same time.

Holy cow, that is a lot!  I am going to look at RMP now - great idea!

 

She'll be doing 2 math classes and an ed class.  

[Elise]

No joke!  To be fair, most of those pages have been racked up by intensive source analyses.  Dd is really looking forward to summer break.  :coolgleamA:

 

At least your dd won't be writing papers for the math classes!

[FaithManor]

At ds's college, Comp 1 is a pre-requisite to Comp 2 no exceptions. There would be no option to take both at once.

[MerryAtHope]

Comp 1 is a pre-req, but that can be over-ridden with an ACT score above 26 (I think) in that subject.  

 

With her ACT score, why would she take Comp 1 then? Can't she just start in Comp 2?

 

 

At ds's college, Comp 1 is a pre-requisite to Comp 2 no exceptions. There would be no option to take both at once.

 

That's how it is at ds's college as well.

[DebbS]

Comp 1 is a pre-req, but that can be over-ridden with an ACT score above 26 (I think) in that subject.  

 

Usually if a test score over-rides the pre-req, then you don't have to take the pre-req.  For example, both my kids tested out of the first composition course with their AP scores so they can go ahead and take the advanced writing requirement.  I would be surprised if that isn't the case at the college where your daughter attends. Has she discussed this with her adviser?

 

[clementine]

Eventually she needs 4 (I think) writing intensive courses, so she thought taking both in one semester would work well.  One is online and one is in class.  I think she is leaning toward just taking the in-class course now.  

 

Her adviser has been less than helpful...even going so far as to tell her that going from homeschool to college calculus is going to be hard. Ugh.  I suggested she finish the year with this adviser and maybe request a different one next year.  

[hopskipjump]

 

Her adviser has been less than helpful...even going so far as to tell her that going from homeschool to college calculus is going to be hard. Ugh.  I suggested she finish the year with this adviser and maybe request a different one next year.  

 

<_<  Wow. Thank you Mr/s. Adviser. That's helpful advice. What was she supposed to do? Take an Introductory Math course first just to make sure she's "revved up" enough for Calculus?

 

[MerryAtHope]

Eventually she needs 4 (I think) writing intensive courses, so she thought taking both in one semester would work well.  One is online and one is in class.  I think she is leaning toward just taking the in-class course now.  

 

Her adviser has been less than helpful...even going so far as to tell her that going from homeschool to college calculus is going to be hard. Ugh.  I suggested she finish the year with this adviser and maybe request a different one next year.  

 

That's annoying! argh. 

 

Is there another source you can check for the requirements? Fulfilling the requirement might mean she can take one less writing course and fill in with an elective instead. I think it would be worth asking, anyway. 

[Guest]

In my college catalog for 2015-2016, some classes have the phrases "writing intensive" or "extensive writing required" in the description.  These aren't necessarily English classes, they are from all areas, like foreign language, history, I think I even saw one in sociology.  Does your DD's catalog have anything like that and would those classes count for the requirement?

[Janeway]

Can't she just test out of comp 1?

[clementine]

In my college catalog for 2015-2016, some classes have the phrases "writing intensive" or "extensive writing required" in the description. These aren't necessarily English classes, they are from all areas, like foreign language, history, I think I even saw one in sociology. Does your DD's catalog have anything like that and would those classes count for the requirement?

[clementine]

Yes, there are several choices across subject areas for writing intensive classes at her school. She was just thinking about those two as easy choices. She's pretty much decided to just choose one of the comp courses.

[Lolly]

I'll bet she doesn't have to take comp 1 at all. Dd was given the credits based on her ACT score. She went straight into comp2, which she could have easily done without too... But, it is good for a gpa boost.