kfeusse Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Is there any place to buy this program cheaper than the company? Even Rainbow's prices are the exact same...which I thought never happened. I have looked on Amazon, Ebay, tried to find it used. I can't seem to find the newer edition anywhere for less. Am I missing something?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amateur Actress Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Did you try homeschoolclassifieds.com? Lots of used curriculum there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfeusse Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 yep! the only versions there is the 2008 editions...unless something was posted in the last 12 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbollin Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Looks like new has a fixed price. The new edition has only been on market for less than 2 years. People who are using it with programs like MFW aren't ready to go used market because it's used over 2 academic years. That could have an impact on used sales for a few more months. I don't know if you're on facebook or not, but I think there's a used sale swap group for MFW users. Maybe someone there is ready to sell? or you could get the 2008 edition. I know the test/quizzes were slightly changed by how the quizzes are printed. (it'll say History, or Bible, or Lit in new.... old version, it was History/Bible on same quiz and the last 2 questions were always from the "every 5th lesson" But the 2008 edition quizzes? you just remove the last 2 questions from each quiz to remove the Bible quiz. And the longer exams? When those questions reappear you don't count it off, or you could do extra credit. Also, there might be one question on a literature book. such as "the cat of babustes was a symbol of __________" well, I thought I'd just not do that question, but my daughter (who has never read the book) guessed it correctly because of the cover of the book. giggle. I didn't count off if the question wasn't something covered in history but covered in literature (such as the question about the play julius caesar) From looking at the samples of the exams and quizzes in 2014 edition, I recognize almost all of them as the same questions in 2008 edition. Edited March 23, 2016 by cbollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mama Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Mardel usually has an education sale in June where Notgrass is discounted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfeusse Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Looks like new has a fixed price. The new edition has only been on market for less than 2 years. People who are using it with programs like MFW aren't ready to go used market because it's used over 2 academic years. That could have an impact on used sales for a few more months. I don't know if you're on facebook or not, but I think there's a used sale swap group for MFW users. Maybe someone there is ready to sell? or you could get the 2008 edition. I know the test/quizzes were slightly changed by how the quizzes are printed. (it'll say History, or Bible, or Lit in new.... old version, it was History/Bible on same quiz and the last 2 questions were always from the "every 5th lesson" But the 2008 edition quizzes? you just remove the last 2 questions from each quiz to remove the Bible quiz. And the longer exams? When those questions reappear you don't count it off, or you could do extra credit. Also, there might be one question on a literature book. such as "the cat of babustes was a symbol of __________" well, I thought I'd just not do that question, but my daughter (who has never read the book) guessed it correctly because of the cover of the book. giggle. I didn't count off if the question wasn't something covered in history but covered in literature (such as the question about the play julius caesar) From looking at the samples of the exams and quizzes in 2014 edition, I recognize almost all of them as the same questions in 2008 edition. I think the 2014 edition is basically the same as the 2008 except they added colored pictures and made it easier to read (not content) but format. Supposedly it's just more attractive and might be more appealing. If that book is to be used over a 2 year period if you are using MFW....is it even realistic to think that my average student would get through it in a year? I didn't realize that it was a 2 year deal. we will not be doing the Bible or the literature part...so maybe that is why it might take 2 years? I will check the FB page. thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janeway Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 If you try this summer, you are more likely to be able to find the book used when people wrap up their school year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in MN Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) If that book is to be used over a 2 year period if you are using MFW....is it even realistic to think that my average student would get through it in a year? I didn't realize that it was a 2 year deal. we will not be doing the Bible or the literature part...so maybe that is why it might take 2 years? Notgrass is definitely not a 2-year text on its own. It is a fairly gentle 1-year text. So don't worry about that. MFW studies world history over 2 years, with B.C. the first year and A.D. the second year. So, Notgrass is mostly used in year 2, and folks wouldn't be selling their new editions until they were done with that. (MFW uses several materials besides Notgrass, especially in the first year, to fill out 2 credits.) HTH, Julie Edited March 23, 2016 by Julie in MN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliegmom Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Notgrass is definitely not a 2-year text on its own. It is a fairly gentle 1-year text. So don't worry about that. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbollin Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Julie in MN said what I was going to say about Notgrass is 1 year program on its own. MFW does a full year of ancients (where they only use part of notgrass volume 1 and some people don't even think notgrass is a big portion of that ancients MFW year) and another full credit of world history using Notgrass and a whole bunch of other stuff as Julie said. But yes.. as "just history", Notgrass by itself is very reasonable to do in one year's time. It is 150 daily lessons (that includes the every 5th lesson of Bible.) I'm using notgrass (2008) that way with my youngest. She has autism. I read the chapter to her to accommodate her special needs. On the vast majority of days, it takes me 30-40 minutes at most to read the lesson out loud while she follows along. We pause when we get to a review question and answer it. (I have that book open as well). Some of the questions she just points and reads the answer from the text. On other questions, I have her write down the answer so she has time to process it. I help her turn the question into a "fill in the blank" statement. I have to accommodate that she struggles with writing answers as well. Even doing that with her special needs it is not overwhelming at all. We have 20 maps that we plan to do over her course year. She is doing a timeline project as well. On the map days, that has taken longer but it all works out if I plan for it on Fridays. So, that's why I'm comfortable saying most regular needs high schoolers could do this independently and it's done easily in a year. The only reason I mentioned about mfw and 2 years was so that you understood why it might be hard to find used copies of the 2014 edition. It's a part of 2 of their years and they'd be finishing up soon. Edited March 23, 2016 by cbollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollyhock Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I bought a new edition for a discounted price by watching Rainbow Resource's bargain books. That's no guarantee, but you could check there periodically and see if they have a less-than-perfect one. I think CBD does this, too. I think I ended up paying $66 for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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