Leah_S Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Our CC group is six years old and we're large (maxed out). Our Director tutors the ABCdarians in Foundations and the older kids in Essentials. She has 4 kids (age 4, 1st grade, 2nd grade, and 5th grade). Her oldest child (boy) is a holy terror and is quite a behavioral handful in class. My daughter is grade 4 so she's in the same Foundations class as he. He's such a bother that many of us wish his mother would be in the class with him. We have several competent moms who've put their names forward as being interested in tutoring (I'm not interested in tutoring) and I just don't get why they're not allowed/chosen to do so. One of them could really use the financial help that the tutoring money would provide and she was a former high school teacher (taught for 8 years before SAHM). For my part, I sure wish she'd be in the class with her disruptive son so the rest of us wouldn't have to deal with his behavior so much. The tutor has brought this to her attention many times. About four times this year, the tutor has had to stop and go GET her to deal with him. Ughhh. Is it normal for the Director to serve as both Director and tutor? This is the only CC community I know about, so just curious how it works in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momacacia Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 A few years ago when we were in CC, our director both tutored and led an essentials group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importswim Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I've been in 2 different CC groups and neither had a Director who also tutors. Part of the Director's job is to be available to both the parents and the tutors during the CC day. I don't see how she can do that while also tutoring. You should have a visit from your Support Manager at least once during the year. I would ask her about CC's policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialClassical Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 No, neither director I have had did tutoring. They were too busy with other responsibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah_S Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 Thanks for this! I sure wish she'd back off and let the other lady(ladies) give it a go; her son's behavior has made more than one of us re-think joining. :-( Otherwise, she's been a wonderful Director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAPeachie Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 You should have a visit from your Support Manager at least once during the year. I would ask her about CC's policy. Unless your support manager is also your director like here. Then you have LOTS of bending the rules and no one to go to... due to lack of transparency. CC apparently has a policy that if you want to speak to the person above you, you have to ASK the person who the next level up is and then you have to hope you are given the information and that it is truthful. I received someone else that says that they couldn't provide me with the proper person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) How does a director handle emergencies if she's obligated to her own classroom? It would be a great financial advantage for the director to keep the tutor salary portion for a group, but it seems to me that the other community families would not be getting all they pay for (ie, a helpful main administrator/overseer). ETA - with regard to the disobedient kid situation, I would just be straight with her - tell her you are thinking of not rejoining and exactly why. Because you are not getting your money's worth in this situation, either! Sorry, I have very little tolerance for consistently disobedient children wrecking educational opportunities I've paid good money for my kids to attend. Edited March 14, 2016 by Seasider 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksr5377 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Hmmm, I'm not sure that there's a rule AGAINST a director tutoring. I could see in some communities that it would be necessary. While there are now some willing to be an additional tutor is it possible she wasn't aware of that before the year began? It could also be that she really loves tutoring. In this situation though it sounds as though she needs to be tutoring this child OR have another parent on campus to be with him. Are any of the other parents in the class helping with his behavior so that the tutor doesn't have to constantly stop to deal with it? Staying close by him if that helps keep him in line? Also wanted to add that the tutor doesn't have to stop everything to take a student out. On our campus that is something that the tutor would ask a parent in the class to handle so that the disruption was minimized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davysmom Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Unless your support manager is also your director like here. Then you have LOTS of bending the rules and no one to go to... due to lack of transparency. CC apparently has a policy that if you want to speak to the person above you, you have to ASK the person who the next level up is and then you have to hope you are given the information and that it is truthful. I received someone else that says that they couldn't provide me with the proper person. My understanding is this information is required to be given out ahead of time. Most of it is listed on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Hmmm, I'm not sure that there's a rule AGAINST a director tutoring. I could see in some communities that it would be necessary. While there are now some willing to be an additional tutor is it possible she wasn't aware of that before the year began? It could also be that she really loves tutoring. In this situation though it sounds as though she needs to be tutoring this child OR have another parent on campus to be with him. Are any of the other parents in the class helping with his behavior so that the tutor doesn't have to constantly stop to deal with it? Staying close by him if that helps keep him in line? Also wanted to add that the tutor doesn't have to stop everything to take a student out. On our campus that is something that the tutor would ask a parent in the class to handle so that the disruption was minimized. Oh yeah, what are the other parents in the classroom doing? Perhaps that group's tutor ought to make a plan with another mom and institute a zero tolerance/ three strikes/ you know what I'm trying to say classroom strategy - the kid crosses the line and then is escorted to mom to sit with her during class time. What's the official discipline policy tutors are given (not a tutor so I don't know)? Seems like there must be one, I think one was included in our community handbook. A policy and a plan to follow that policy to the letter is the best way to handle classroom discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAPeachie Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 My understanding is this information is required to be given out ahead of time. Most of it is listed on their website. it was not listed on our community website. And you don't get access to the website unless you have already had your check cashed... with a no refund policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah_S Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 I appreciate all of your help! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanne in ABQ Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 We have a large group, and our director doesn't tutor. She has three kids in different levels. She moves around from class to class most of the time, but fills in as substitute tutor when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importswim Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 As a tutor I really don't feel that it's the other parent's jobs to take care of another persons disruptive child on a regular basis. It is also not my job as a tutor to have to take time away from the other children to try to get the situation under control, that's why parents are required to be there. Now, that being said, my daughter is in a class different than mine. We have an understanding between tutors that if we can't handle a disruptive child (and the parent isn't in class) then the director is called to get the parent. Since I would be teaching a class at the time I would expect my director to take my child out of the class, OR, come into my class and tutor for me while I deal with my child. There is no way that can happen if the director is also a tutor. I would not tutor in a community where I didn't have the support of the director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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