Seasider Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamiof5 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Really hope all is going well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristi26 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I was wondering about updates on this too... Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessMommy Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Been following the story. Hope eviction is going smoothly. I have too. I hope things are resolving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Also hoping for updates. I hope everything is working out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Just a note regarding being told by the bank that the check wouldn't be good... That bit us one time, we had to have proof of the check being returned. We had to deposit the check in our account and let it be processed and shown as returned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38carrots Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Have you talked to them any further? Can you get a sense if they are pro scammers or if they just got in a tight spot? Definitely pro scammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38carrots Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Just a note regarding being told by the bank that the check wouldn't be good... That bit us one time, we had to have proof of the check being returned. We had to deposit the check in our account and let it be processed and shown as returned. Yep, thanks. We've done that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38carrots Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 To the curious souls: We hope to be able to evict on Friday. They haven't paid at all, they don't really care to communicate with us (though are polite and friendly when we come by. Wish us luck! 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erica in OR Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Definitely pro scammers. Ugh. That's rotten. :grouphug: Erica in OR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoobie Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 What a nightmare! Hope the eviction process goes as smoothly as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieSong Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 To the curious souls: We hope to be able to evict on Friday. They haven't paid at all, they don't really care to communicate with us (though are polite and friendly when we come by. Wish us luck! Ugh, so sorry!! I hope they are gone by Friday at the latest and that they haven't destroyed anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I'm sorry there are people in the world like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieSong Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 BTW, are you going to file a small claims case against them? You may never see any money but at least it leaves a trail for the next person who does a background check on them. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaVT Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 To the curious souls: We hope to be able to evict on Friday. They haven't paid at all, they don't really care to communicate with us (though are polite and friendly when we come by. Wish us luck! Fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly on Friday for you 38carrots!! :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandra Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 To the curious souls: We hope to be able to evict on Friday. They haven't paid at all, they don't really care to communicate with us (though are polite and friendly when we come by. Wish us luck!. Best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 To the curious souls: We hope to be able to evict on Friday. They haven't paid at all, they don't really care to communicate with us (though are polite and friendly when we come by. Wish us luck! Wishing you luck and hoping it all goes smoothly. We're all supporting you here. :grouphug: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Thinking good thoughts for success for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 To the curious souls: We hope to be able to evict on Friday. They haven't paid at all, they don't really care to communicate with us (though are polite and friendly when we come by. Wish us luck! :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: Keeping you in my thoughts. I very much hope eviction goes smoothly and the property is in good condition when you get it back. Best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I'm sorry you had this happen, and hope your Dh learned a lesson. Edited March 17, 2016 by Amy in NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraidycat Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 If they do not have full funds tomorrow, do they have to depart immediately? Or do they then have X number of days to vacate? Just thinking it may be prudent to have some authority (ie, LEO) with you when you go over there tomorrow. Also, is there any way for you to arrange to inspect the premises? Sorry for your mess. I'm afraid your dh learned a hard lesson here. Hopefully after tomorrow all will resolve quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 If they do not have full funds tomorrow, do they have to depart immediately? Or do they then have X number of days to vacate? Just thinking it may be prudent to have some authority (ie, LEO) with you when you go over there tomorrow. Also, is there any way for you to arrange to inspect the premises? Sorry for your mess. I'm afraid your dh learned a hard lesson here. Hopefully after tomorrow all will resolve quickly. In Texas, and probably most states, eviction is a legal process which must go through the courts and necessarily involves the sheriff's department. The homeowner does not have the legal right to evict someone. Only the court does. The sheriff is the authority which enforces the court order of eviction. Whatever state your home is left in is your issue and problem, at that point. BTDT. However, in Texas, the sheriff will not evict without the homeowner present, and the homeowner is the only one who may remove the belongings. The tenants do not have to help you remove their own belongings, even though they are present illegally. The sheriff will not remove them. And you are not allowed to break or damage the belongings. Also BTDT. To say that the system favors the tenants is a gross understatement. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Here's hoping you can get them out quickly with little drama! What do they say when you talk to them? I'm so intrigued by people with the mindset that they are owed housing/tampons/etc. because they breathe air. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'm so intrigued by people with the mindset that they are owed housing/tampons/etc. because they breathe air. :lol: :lol: Only on this board would those two things be grouped together in that manner... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulycrabby Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Good luck on Friday! :grouphug: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'm interested in how they're acting when you see them also. I just don't understand this mindset at all and can't imagine people doing this to someone and smiling at them while doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 To the curious souls: We hope to be able to evict on Friday. They haven't paid at all, they don't really care to communicate with us (though are polite and friendly when we come by. Wish us luck! Oh my lord. Ugh. So sorry. I agree that you can file a claim on them. I just don't understand this mindset at all and can't imagine people doing this to someone and smiling at them while doing it. It's more a lack of mindset and a continual self-justification cycle. They probably tell themselves, among other things, that everyone does this because otherwise how could people afford housing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaVT Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Thinking of you today 30carrots - hope everything goes smoothly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Yes, sending good thoughts your way today and hoping against hope that they actually leave, and leave peaceably, and your property is in good shape after they vacate. (And hope with all my heart that these tenants don't do this to someone else). :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SproutMamaK Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Good luck today! Although going *smoothly* might be a bit much to hope for, I hope it at least happens without you feeling in danger and that at the end of the day they're out of the apartment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Bumping. How did it go today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess in the Burbs Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Been wondering as well. Hope it went as best as can be expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SproutMamaK Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 bumping in hopes of an update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I'm hoping today went well. Sometimes the professional scammers are also professional about being called on it - they got their free stay and move on. I hoping you have that type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamiof5 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Praying it all went well! Not sure I'd consider myself a curious soul? Honestly wishing you the best! What a mess :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I'm interested in how they're acting when you see them also. I just don't understand this mindset at all and can't imagine people doing this to someone and smiling at them while doing it. Many of this type don't bat an eye, 'cause after all, it's a rich landlord. They don't need the money. It either "won't hurt them" or "they deserve it." If eviction proceedings were just starting yesterday, it may be quite some time yet before the folks actually have to leave. Ours had 30 days after we got the legal judgment if I recall correctly, and the legal judgment was some time after filing. It will depend upon the state and state laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I was wondering about this as well. One of our rental situations just ended non-amicably. The tenant is heading to prison, was already months behind on rent, and left us with the utilities in serious arrears, electric turned off. On the upside, we have a replacement tenant who wants to move in this weekend, so at least we aren't dealing with months of vaccancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I would say most of the law, in theory favors the owner. They own the house, they have rights. In theory, if not for laws protecting renters from the whims of unscrupulous landlords, they have all the rights. The reality is, if you know any landlords, you know horror stories of renters. But if you know lots of renters, you might know stories. We announced to our landlord we were moving. She had not raised the rent in years, more than $50 a pop. She just raised it FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS and she had people driving to her house with sob stories, because it's still that low. What that shows me is that other landlords have been raising the rent by a good $150/month every year, or more--most homes were around $2k, now, less than 6 years later, they are $3k, so yes, that would be about $200/month per year raises. So, landlords who know their rights and who have lawyers DO have rights. And they can most certainly control the situation and they do. When everyone involved is honest, it works out just fine. My landlord has her retirement and inheritance for her kids, well-deserved from her saving and scrupulous and fair property management, and we have our low rent. We have absolutely no problems having done the background checks, paid first and last on time, paying only via automatic deposit through her bank. No problems at all. We are happy with this situation. But the landlord needs to know how to defend those rights. There are loopholes that result from protections from bad landlords, such as people who raise the rent by $500 every six months. And people work them. All these laws are written for the nastiest 2 - 5% of the population. Everyone else could probably survive on good manners and mediation alone! Wow, I never raise rent on good tenants in residence. Maybe that policy needs revision, if your landlord could raise it $500 a month and still get applicants. I can't believe those rental amounts! The law very much favors tenants, in my view. What else can you take and not pay for, yet keep for another 30-60 days before it is removed from your possession, but rental housing? You are right. If everyone is honest and just does the right thing, it works out well. I have never evicted anyone in decades, and only had to threaten one time, at which he did finally vacate and even clean the house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) If they do not have full funds tomorrow, do they have to depart immediately? Or do they then have X number of days to vacate? Just thinking it may be prudent to have some authority (ie, LEO) with you when you go over there tomorrow. Also, is there any way for you to arrange to inspect the premises? Sorry for your mess. I'm afraid your dh learned a hard lesson here. Hopefully after tomorrow all will resolve quickly. No. They can just stay until a Sheriff shows up to pry them out of the house, if they so choose. Depending on jurisidiction, that can be 30-60 days on which they are living on the landlord's dime, and the landlord can't do anything about it. In the old days, you could just show up and throw nonpayers out, but no longer. They can use your house and even your utilities if they were still on, as long as they can get away with it. It would be unwise to try to inspect a property with tenants who are being sued in residence. Not safe. I'm sure you have seen the damage that unhappy people in foreclosure can cause? Same thing with tenants who are being evicted. Of course, it is never their fault, and the mean landlord just has it out for them, according to them. But the judge only cares about one thing: Did you pay the rent? If not, you are out, but only when the Sheriff can schedule it. The Landlord still has to pay to remove tenant stuff. The Sheriff will not do that. Then the landlord has to pay to store it for a state-mandated amount of time. The law is heavily weighted in favor of tenants. Edited March 19, 2016 by TranquilMind 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftymama Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 No. They can just stay until a Sheriff shows up to pry them out of the house, if they so choose. Depending on jurisidiction, that can be 30-60 days on which they are living on the landlord's dime, and the landlord can't do anything about it. In the old days, you could just show up and throw nonpayers out, but no longer. They can use your house and even your utilities if they were still on, as long as they can get away with it. It would be unwise to try to inspect a property with tenants who are being sued in residence. Not safe. I'm sure you have seen the damage that unhappy people in foreclosure can cause? Same thing with tenants who are being evicted. Of course, it is never their fault, and the mean landlord just has it out for them, according to them. But the judge only cares about one thing: Did you pay the rent? If not, you are out, but only when the Sheriff can schedule it. The Landlord still has to pay to remove tenant stuff. The Sheriff will not do that. Then the landlord has to pay to store it for a state-mandated amount of time. The law is heavily weighted in favor of tenants. I don't understand why the landlord has to store their stuff. Why isn't it considered abandoned property when they chose not to take it with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I don't understand why the landlord has to store their stuff. Why isn't it considered abandoned property when they chose not to take it with them? Nope. It is considered their property, except under certain limited situations. In the eviction situation, sometimes they can't take it with them, but of course, the landlord wants the house back. The landlord is required to store it here for 30 days and allow the tenant the opportunity to retrieve it, last I checked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Nope. It is considered their property, except under certain limited situations. In the eviction situation, sometimes they can't take it with them, but of course, the landlord wants the house back. The landlord is required to store it here for 30 days and allow the tenant the opportunity to retrieve it, last I checked. This is true here too. We were thankful the tenant we had to evict took his stuff with him as otherwise we'd have had to move it into storage AND pay for 30 days. We thought about storing it here on our farm, but then WE would have been liable for any damages had they happened. There's no way we could have taken enough pics to prove no damage had occurred - and what if a mouse got in? The law pretty much always favors the tenant and professional rent scammers know it. There's a reason why background checks and rent/security deposit up front are super important. Things can still go wrong, of course, but those help the odds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 This is true here too. We were thankful the tenant we had to evict took his stuff with him as otherwise we'd have had to move it into storage AND pay for 30 days. We thought about storing it here on our farm, but then WE would have been liable for any damages had they happened. There's no way we could have taken enough pics to prove no damage had occurred - and what if a mouse got in? The law pretty much always favors the tenant and professional rent scammers know it. There's a reason why background checks and rent/security deposit up front are super important. Things can still go wrong, of course, but those help the odds. Exactly. Overkill on the front end protects us from this sort of result. If a tenant doesn't pass all five of the tests with flying colors, see ya (Well, more accurately, the tenant "does not meet our requirements. We wish you well in your search for a home." (Hit send). Income, Employment, Credit, and Criminal history checks. And gut check, finally. If I think something is wrong, it is, and I was warned up front by my gut. I have learned never to ignore that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SproutMamaK Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Bumping again for an update, hoping things went well for you. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I had a nightmare last night about renting out my grandparents' house and I thought of this thread. Goodness I hope things are going well. 38carrots I'm sorry if you would rather this thread died. I just really, really am hoping the situation is improving and wanted to send more good vibes your way. I think a lot of people here care and are just hoping things improve rapidly. Best wishes... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmseB Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Bumping again for an update, hoping things went well for you. :) Yes, hoping they are OUT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) There was a guy on Humans of New York yesterday whose caption was about this very thing. He manages properties for landlords and deals with squatters. http://www.humansofnewyork.com/post/141436428896/i-help-maintain-properties-for-absentee Edited March 22, 2016 by Sassenach 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawthorne44 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 WOW! Another reason to be glad I don't live in NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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