WWS 1 and 2

[Roadrunner]

If we miss the poetry section in the WWS1, do you think we can go on to WWS2 and handle the poetry section in that level? Or do we need to work through that poetry section over the summer? Thanks!

[redsquirrel]

I think it depends, lol.  I know..not helpful.

 

But, has your student done any other work with poetry? For example, my kids had done WWE, which has some elementary poetry work. They had scanned poetry, at a very basic level. They knew internal vs end rhymes before we started WWS 1. 

 

And, looking at WWS1 right now, I can see she uses Poe's Bells in week 32, which is a poem they had to memorize in maybe FLL 4.  It could have been FLL3, but I think it was 4. So they were already familiar with the poem and had spend a couple lessons learning about it. In week 33 she is using Ozymandias, which is also a poem that was memorized in FLL...I think 3. So it is one my kids were familiar with. In week 34 it is "Charge of the Light Brigade, and she used a section of that in the SOTW AG, so again they had heard at least a part of it.

 

I am only telling you that in case it makes a difference to you. My WWS2 is packed away, so it is difficult to make a direct comparison, which would be more helpful.

 

In those three weeks she covers different forms of poetry (free verse, sonnet, ballad), onomatopoeia, repetition, alliteration, meter, rhyme scheme, how to assemble an essay about a poem, etc.

 

I can say that after using FLL 1-4 and WWE 1-4 with ds1 and 1-3 with ds2, my kids did already have some exposure to the things she discusses in WWS1, but on a more surface level. In WWS1 she has them read each poem multiple times, each time reading for something different, but keeping the pattern the same for each poem so she is teaching the pattern. My ds2 hasn't got that far in the book, but i remember ds1 specifically enjoyed the literature and poetry units in all of the WWS books.

 

So, if your student has enough experience with poetry that they won't need things like meter or feet or form explained, then you might be able to skip.  In WWS 1, she doesn't assume any previous exposure to poetry and certainly doesn't assume the student has had any explicit instruction about how to write about poetry. In WWS2, I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure she gives a very brief rundown to jog a students memory, but it is assumed they have done the lessons in WWS1. She hopes they have their writing notebook from WWS1 with the literary terms listed for when they need it in WWS2. But then she gives a filled in list just in case they lost it, lol.

 

HTH!

[Roadrunner]

I think it depends, lol.  I know..not helpful.

 

But, has your student done any other work with poetry? For example, my kids had done WWE, which has some elementary poetry work. They had scanned poetry, at a very basic level. They knew internal vs end rhymes before we started WWS 1. 

 

And, looking at WWS1 right now, I can see she uses Poe's Bells in week 32, which is a poem they had to memorize in maybe FLL 4.  It could have been FLL3, but I think it was 4. So they were already familiar with the poem and had spend a couple lessons learning about it. In week 33 she is using Ozymandias, which is also a poem that was memorized in FLL...I think 3. So it is one my kids were familiar with. In week 34 it is "Charge of the Light Brigade, and she used a section of that in the SOTW AG, so again they had heard at least a part of it.

 

I am only telling you that in case it makes a difference to you. My WWS2 is packed away, so it is difficult to make a direct comparison, which would be more helpful.

 

In those three weeks she covers different forms of poetry (free verse, sonnet, ballad), onomatopoeia, repetition, alliteration, meter, rhyme scheme, how to assemble an essay about a poem, etc.

 

I can say that after using FLL 1-4 and WWE 1-4 with ds1 and 1-3 with ds2, my kids did already have some exposure to the things she discusses in WWS1, but on a more surface level. In WWS1 she has them read each poem multiple times, each time reading for something different, but keeping the pattern the same for each poem so she is teaching the pattern. My ds2 hasn't got that far in the book, but i remember ds1 specifically enjoyed the literature and poetry units in all of the WWS books.

 

So, if your student has enough experience with poetry that they won't need things like meter or feet or form explained, then you might be able to skip.  In WWS 1, she doesn't assume any previous exposure to poetry and certainly doesn't assume the student has had any explicit instruction about how to write about poetry. In WWS2, I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure she gives a very brief rundown to jog a students memory, but it is assumed they have done the lessons in WWS1. She hopes they have their writing notebook from WWS1 with the literary terms listed for when they need it in WWS2. But then she gives a filled in list just in case they lost it, lol.

 

HTH!

We have done some poetry with MCT, but I am not sure how much he actually retained. I think I might just run him through it over the summer. This was  very helpful. 

[redsquirrel]

I am glad it was helpful.

 

There are also 3 (?) weeks in a literature unit, which is different from the poetry unit.

[Roadrunner]

I am glad it was helpful.

 

There are also 3 (?) weeks in a literature unit, which is different from the poetry unit.

We are basically managing to get through chapter 31 only because of some family issues this year. I want him to take the online class next year, so I was hoping going from chapter 31 to WWS2 class would work, but I think I am going to condense the poetry unit somehow and run him through it over couple of weeks before the class starts. 

[redsquirrel]

We are basically managing to get through chapter 31 only because of some family issues this year. I want him to take the online class next year, so I was hoping going from chapter 31 to WWS2 class would work, but I think I am going to condense the poetry unit somehow and run him through it over couple of weeks before the class starts. 

 

Ah, I see.

 

Yes, I think that is a good idea.  My son is taking the WWS1 online class and, after having finished one semester, I think you have a good plan. 

Edited January 23, 2016 by redsquirrel

[chiguirre]

Trinqueta's WWS2 class just started poetry this week. They definitely assume you did WWS1 and get off to a quick start.