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Dd just signed up for her spring CC/DE classes for her senior year, so I've been updating her transcript.

 

I've got her transcript organized by year, but I have a summary at the bottom by subject area.

 

Right now she's got 4 English, 4 Math, 3 Science (all w/ lab), 3 Arts, 1.5 other Electives, 7.5 Foreign Language and 9 Social Science.

 

That's a lot of FL and Social Sciences!  The FL is just FL (German and Spanish through AP, 2 semesters Arabic at CC, and 1/2 credit Icelandic), but I'm wondering if maybe any of the stuff I've labeled Social Sciences could be put somewhere else?  Or does it even matter? 

 

I am giving 1 high school credit for each 3-4 credit college course, so that's contributing to the accumulation...

 

She's got:

World History II

US History I    (both of these at PS)

US History II   (at home)

 

Then at CC and one at a State U:

 

Cultural Anthropology

Intro Criminal Justice

Maritime Archaeology   (listed at State U under "Topics in US History")

World Cultures      (cross-listed under "Humanities" and "History")

Intro Psychology

Myths     (this is listed under "Humanities" at CC)

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Colleges often like to see some "Academic Electives" -- those are additional credits beyond the required credits in: English, Math, Science, Social Science, or Foreign Language. Looks like you have quite a few of those in the foreign language and social science areas. ?

"Regular" Electives would be things like PE, Health, Nutrition, Logic, Bible/Religious Studies, Personal Finance, Public Speaking, special interest courses, and additional credits beyond requirements in Fine Arts.

Also in the regular Electives category -- or as a separate category -- would be Vocational-Tech credits (often these are dual enrollment at the CC working towards a certificate or Associate's degree) -- things like Family & Consumer Science, Early Childhood Development, CAD, Electronics, Fire/Police/Emergency Services, Pre-Nursing, Skilled Trades, etc.

Good luck, as you wear your administrator hat!  :hat:  Warmest regards, Lori D.

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I think all is fine so long as you spell out how you assigned credits.  And it sounds as though you have done so.

 

In my daughter's case, instead of giving one credit per community college class, I gave half a credit.  Her community college operated on a quarter system.  I did this even though our state university would have given one credit per class. 

 

Wishing your daughter well with her applications.

 

Regards,

Kareni 

 

 

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I think all is fine so long as you spell out how you assigned credits.  And it sounds as though you have done so.

 

In my daughter's case, instead of giving one credit per community college class, I gave half a credit.  Her community college operated on a quarter system.  I did this even though our state university would have given one credit per class. 

 

I was waffling about that for a while.  There were some classes I felt like should be a full credit, and others that seemed more like they should be more like half a credit.  But then I found out that the local ps, which also does DE with this same CC, has a flat one semester = one high school year policy for their transcripts, so I said 'what the heck'.  No need to re-invent the wheel, and now she has a ton o' credits, but the other way it may have seemed skimpy - and no need to overload her.

 

What I was wondering about with the original question was, does it look in any way odd or bad  or unbalanced that she has so many Social Sciences credits?  Would it make any sense to lump the Humanities or Criminal Justice courses, say, under General Electives instead?  Or maybe it really doesn't matter in the slightest and I'm overthinking??  :tongue_smilie:  Per the suggestion of one college she's applying to, I'm listing the course number (like PSY 101 or ENG 102H) on my transcript along with the class title, so they can more easily match it with the college transcript they'll get as well. 

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What I was wondering about with the original question was, does it look in any way odd or bad  or unbalanced that she has so many Social Sciences credits?

 

I think it just makes her look interesting!

 

 

 

  Would it make any sense to lump the Humanities or Criminal Justice courses, say, under General Electives instead? 

 

I've never cared over much for using the word Electives, but that is a personal quirk.  In addition to the more standard headings, I will admit to using the category "Art, Physical Ed., and Miscellaneous" on my daughter's transcript.

 

 

 

 

She's got:

World History II

US History I    (both of these at PS)

US History II   (at home)

 

Then at CC and one at a State U:

 

Cultural Anthropology

Intro Criminal Justice

Maritime Archaeology   (listed at State U under "Topics in US History")

World Cultures      (cross-listed under "Humanities" and "History")

Intro Psychology

Myths     (this is listed under "Humanities" at CC)

 

One thought occurs to me.  If you don't wish to use the broad "Social Sciences" heading, how about using "History" and "Humanities."  It looks as though the Maritime class could go with History while the Myths class would be under the Humanities umbrella.  World Cultures could go either way.  The question then is how are

 

Cultural Anthropology

Intro Criminal Justice

Intro Psychology

 

classified in the community college or state university catalogs?

 

Regards,

Kareni

 

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I was waffling about that for a while.  There were some classes I felt like should be a full credit, and others that seemed more like they should be more like half a credit.  But then I found out that the local ps, which also does DE with this same CC, has a flat one semester = one high school year policy for their transcripts, so I said 'what the heck'.  No need to re-invent the wheel, and now she has a ton o' credits, but the other way it may have seemed skimpy - and no need to overload her.

 

What I was wondering about with the original question was, does it look in any way odd or bad  or unbalanced that she has so many Social Sciences credits?  Would it make any sense to lump the Humanities or Criminal Justice courses, say, under General Electives instead?  Or maybe it really doesn't matter in the slightest and I'm overthinking??  :tongue_smilie:  Per the suggestion of one college she's applying to, I'm listing the course number (like PSY 101 or ENG 102H) on my transcript along with the class title, so they can more easily match it with the college transcript they'll get as well. 

 

I'm going to vote that you are overthinking it.

 

When I got my college degree, there were a bunch of requirements for majors courses, requirements for core courses and then Humanities/Social Science requirements.  Most of my Humanities requirements were met with the extra foreign language courses I took.  They were elective classes in that they were not specifically required (the way that math, chemistry or world history was specifically required).  But they also met the requirements for my language minor.

 

I think you can do the same thing.  Put history and social studies courses together.  If YOU think that it would look better with some of the less typical courses in the electives box, then put them there.  If YOU think they look better with SS, then do that.  

 

I don't think it looks unbalanced.  Just as it wouldn't look unbalanced for a music major to have choir, band, orchestra and music theory.  Or for a future engineer to have extra math, science, or robotics courses.  

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One thought occurs to me.  If you don't wish to use the broad "Social Sciences" heading, how about using "History" and "Humanities."  It looks as though the Maritime class could go with History while the Myths class would be under the Humanities umbrella.  World Cultures could go either way.  The question then is how are

 

Cultural Anthropology

Intro Criminal Justice

Intro Psychology

 

classified in the community college or state university catalogs?

 

LOL - those three each have their own categories (even though there is ONE Anthropolgy class at this CC, it still has its own prefix ANT).  Psych is PSY and Criminal Justice is CRJ.

 

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LOL - those three each have their own categories (even though there is ONE Anthropolgy class at this CC, it still has its own prefix ANT).  Psych is PSY and Criminal Justice is CRJ.

 

 

Naturally they each have their own prefixes!

 

I think I'd just stick with the Social Sciences category and call it good.

 

Regards,

Kareni

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LOL - those three each have their own categories (even though there is ONE Anthropolgy class at this CC, it still has its own prefix ANT). Psych is PSY and Criminal Justice is CRJ.

 

Even though the college assigns them to various departments doesn't mean you have to categorize them identically when you assign high school credit for them.

 

Chemistry biology physics and botany all have different cc designations but I can put them all under Science on my high school transcript.

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I've never heard history classes classified as "Social Sciences" before. Social studies, yes. Social science, no. To me, Social Sciences means psychology, anthropology, economics, etc.

 

I would call these something like Humanities (or History and Cultures, or Social Studies):

 

World History II

US History I   

US History II  

World Cultures

Mythology

Maritime Archaeology (since it appears to be a history course)

    

and these as Social Science or Misc. Electives:

Cultural Anthropology

Intro Criminal Justice

Intro Psychology

 

 

 

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On 10/30/2015 at 4:23 PM, Cosmos said:

I've never heard history classes classified as "Social Sciences" before. Social studies, yes. Social science, no. 


Social Studies is the older term. The more recent trend in colleges/universities, which is filtering down into high schools, is to call History (et.al.) "Social Sciences", and to call the Science topics "Natural Sciences". ?

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Social Studies is the older term. The more recent trend in colleges/universities, which is filtering down into high schools, is to call History (et.al.) "Social Sciences", and to call the Science topics "Natural Sciences". :)

 

Social Studies is a term I've only seen used in elementary and secondary schools. At a college, I thought those types of courses are grouped into either Humanities (history, religion, geography, etc.) or Social Sciences (psychology, economics, political science). But it's certainly possible that my understanding is out of date!

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On 10/30/2015 at 5:27 PM, Cosmos said:

Social Studies is a term I've only seen used in elementary and secondary schools. At a college, I thought those types of courses are grouped into either Humanities (history, religion, geography, etc.) or Social Sciences (psychology, economics, political science). But it's certainly possible that my understanding is out of date!


Or, it may be a regional thing:you know, like "soda" vs. "pop", or "frosting" vs. "icing". ? 

Or, maybe schools just want to sound more rigorous or professional -- like elementary or secondary schools calling themselves "academy" instead of "school". ?

Since transcripts are mostly for the benefit of the admission offices of the colleges/universities that students are applying to, I always recommend  just going with subject headings used by the school in their list of required credits for freshman admission. ?

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