Guest Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 My 10th grader has been working through Intermediate Algebra for almost a year. She completed AOPS' Intro to Algebra and Intro to Geometry. We've decided to continue with a less rigorous pre-cal text. I know that the Intro to Algebra contains material standard to both Algebra I and II. For those of you familiar with the books, at what point in the Intermediate Algebra textbook will she have covered all of the necessary Algebra II topics? My husband, who has taught college level Calculus and is helping my daughter through the course, recognizes that AOPS is much more in depth than the typical Algebra course, but isn't sure at what point she'll have covered enough to move on to pre-calculus. Is that clear? Thanks in advance for your help! Carla Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Julie of KY 3,122 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 I've asked the same question. I took my oldest through AoPS Int. Algebra and I want to move my second straight on to precalc. In looking at a lot of algebra texts, all or almost all of Algebra 2 is covered in the AoPS intro book. Some books cover hyperboles and ellipses. Matrices are occasionally touched on in algebra (but often wait until precalc). Precalc is a combination of more advanced algebra plus trig. I will be taking my second son straight from the Intro to Algebra text to precalc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites

kiana 11,476 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 What precalc text are you planning on using? Unless it's a very advanced one I'd just go for it now. I'd expect a lot of the algebra portion of it to be review already. AOPS intermediate algebra covers all of the algebra portion of a standard precalc text and more. If you find any holes, you can always go back to fill them in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Mike in SA 1,589 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 This probably won't be a popular answer, but I'd suggest finishing it out. Yes, that course is harder than your typical algebra I/II sequence. It is also not one of my favorite AOPS texts, though it is still excellent. Here are my reasons: 1) Precalculus will be easy afterwards, and contain a good bit of review, as it was meant to be; 2) The depth is extremely beneficial in calculus - . Ultimately, #2 is the real reason to stick it out. It isn't because "you've covered enough" or "haven't covered enough" - it's because calculus is the first real exposure most kids have to mathematical analysis. While most students will have had only cursory exposure to analysis, your child will have established a proper foundation. The benefits in two years' time are extraordinary compared to the slight increase in effort now. Don't be tempted by the urge to race to calculus. If she is doing intermediate algebra in 10th, she's in fantastic shape. You thought it out and set yourselves on the correct course from the beginning. Hold true. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites

MarkT 1,538 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 I would use the topics covered in Derek Owens and JHCTY as a reference point: http://www.derekowens.com/course_info_precalculus.php http://cty.jhu.edu/ctyonline/courses/mathematics/precalculus.html Be sure to cover Probability and Statistics in your Algebra 2 it will be on the SAT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Julie of KY 3,122 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 I think there is a point in finishing for some kids and for others it is not worth the frustration, stress, time, etc. It really depends on your child. As I've said, some of my kids will do the book and others will not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites

daijobu 4,818 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 The polynomial chapters are pretty crazy aren't they! It covers way more than I ever studied. I haven't compared it to the aops precalculus book, but there's a lot of good stuff you won't want to skip. conic sections, quadratics, vieta's, sequences and series, am-gm, logs, piecewise functions. My dd got quite bogged down in the polynomials, but by the time we reached chapter 8 (where we are now), she seems to hit her stride. Real roots, rational roots, complex roots, irrational roots, on and on and on. Eek. I just realized we have yet another polynomial chapter after this one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Guest Carla K Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Thanks for all of the input. I appreciate all of the wisdom offered. I think my dd is feeling frustrated and bogged down and needs to see the end of the tunnel, so to speak. I'm still not sure what we will do, but you have helped greatly to inform our decision! Quote Link to post Share on other sites

VANURSEPRAC 197 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Bumping. D is chapter 7 and bogged down for sure with polynomials Quote Link to post Share on other sites

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