Syllieann Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'm just curious after reading the homeschool cost thread. Are the lessons free, subsidized, not even available? In which grades are they offered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairProspects Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Orchestra and band are offered for grades 5+. The class is free, instrument rental is not. No private lessons are offered free of charge but students are taught to play in a group setting in class. The school does maintain some instruments for low income families who cannot afford to rent. Most serious instrumental students take and pay for private lessons in addition to band or orchestra at school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabelen Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Same as above. From 5th grade onwards. Free instruction but the instrument cost is on the family. If you get lucky you can get the school to loan one of the less popular instruments to use for the year. 5th grade is only one day a week. Middle school on up, daily. ETA Middle and High school full range of band and orchestra instruments offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tm919 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Violin, viola, or cello is free starting in third grade, but you have to buy or rent the instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Grade 5 it is required for 100% of students with subsidies for those who cannot afford an instrument. This is because poor people were opting out and not learning about the subsidized instrument free for all who qualify, through 12th grade. It is daily. From grade 6 on it is a choice. Grades K - 4 have music and I believe they play recorder in 4th. There are free tutorials for every subject including band, orchestra etc. after school. The only kids who would not be able to access this would be those who bus home more than 3 miles away, i.e. Kids in a choice school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 3rd grade onwards free instructions during music class for violin, flute and brass. School has some instruments for those who can't afford to rent one on a needs basis. A nearby school district offers violin for all 4th graders, recorders for the earlier grades and they can choose an instrument from 5th grade. The school band on the other hand have to do fund raising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Our local schools have violin, viola, cello, trumpet, flute, and clarinet in 3rd and 4th Grades. Instruments are provided without fees, or children can use their own. In Middle School in addition to the above there are saxophones, marimbas, standing basses, xylophones, a number of percussion instruments/drums. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 5th grade -- optional after school strings program - lessons free but must provide instrument 6th grade+ -- band or orchestra in school. Big instruments (tuba, baritone, trombone etc...) provided by school. Flutes and clarinets and trumpets etc... rented from a local shop, but there are a few school instruments available if families have financial difficulties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 This is the policy at my local primary school (ages 4 to 12): Children who show musical promise may qualify for instrumental instruction. The types of instrument offered [by the local education authority] are violin, viola, cello, double bass, clarsach, woodwind, brass, piano/keyboard, bass guitar, guitar, percussion, bagpipes or pipe band drumming. The type of instrument available differs from school to school and generally only one type will be available in a school. There is a charge for tuition. The rate may be subject to change but the current rate would be notified at the time of interview. This may be paid in instalments or by Direct Debit and concessions may be available. 'Concessions may be available' means that those on low incomes may get free tuition or discounts. Pupils are assessed (if the parents wish) to see if they qualify for free school meals, so information on household income is already available to the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Here band begins in 7th grade. Just marching band instruments, no strings. Some basic recorder instruction happens in 4th grade during music class. No individual lessons are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutTN Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Orchestra and band are offered for grades 5+. The class is free, instrument rental is not. No private lessons are offered free of charge but students are taught to play in a group setting in class. The school does maintain some instruments for low income families who cannot afford to rent. Most serious instrumental students take and pay for private lessons in addition to band or orchestra at school. This, exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 In my district, it's school-by-school. Schools can get a part-time instrumental teacher if the school elects to have a band or strings pull-out. Parents are responsible for instruments unless the school provides them. When I was a K-6 music teacher, I wrote several grants, getting instruments so I could offer beginning band and class guitar at my school, and my principal scraped together a small budget for supplies and materials out of that, plus each parent paid $20/yr for their child to participate (which didn't even cover maintenance on the instruments-the amount was picked to be enough to make them feel they had "some skin in the game" without being so much that most families couldn't manage it (and if a parent really couldn't, well, I could always use some help in the music rooms). After I left to have DD, they continued the program two years, and then the school was turned over to become a charter. No clue if they kept the instrumental program or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syllieann Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Thank you for your input everyone! Ours starts in upper elementary so I wouldn't consider lessons a homeschool expense until then. Looks like we are pretty typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Ours starts in upper elementary so I wouldn't consider lessons a homeschool expense until then.Oldest had music theory and choir in public school from K. Youngest was supplied with music curriculum from K12 VA in K when we were with the online charter. Music is in the state standards from K. When we started homeschooling, I put DS10 in a crash course music theory class that covers roughly three years of state standards in a term :) His cello teacher just concentrate on playing during lesson time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 There are music standards from K on. My PS classes got 45 minutes of music 1x week K-4, and either general music, band, or guitar in 5th and 6th, with choir as an extracurricular. The general music kids got 45 minutes of music and 45 minutes of art, the band and guitar students got 90 minutes of music and no art, which kind of stank for those kids who really were good at and wanted to do both. In some districts, classroom teachers are expected to teach music, and the textbooks we had had a core set of lessons where most of the stuff was on CD so you didn't actually have to have any significant skills (or equipment) to teach it. All the orff instruments, dalcroze-based movement lessons, Kodaly based sight singing, and stuff like that only got taught if you had a music specialist (or a classroom teacher who USED to be a music specialist and has a lot of instruments and materials-I was a 3rd grade teacher one year in a school which had no music teacher-so I taught music the entire grade, with the teachers trading off supervising my class so I could teach theirs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSmomof2 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Here band begins in 7th grade. Just marching band instruments, no strings. Some basic recorder instruction happens in 4th grade during music class. No individual lessons are available. This is the same in our district. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syllieann Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 I would consider lessons to be outsourcing music instruction. Music is a required class from preK thru 8 here. I am trying to distinguish between general music class and instrumental lessons. Your school district doesn't really do instrumental lessons with pre-k kids does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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