displace Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 DS is at the point where reading from a reader is getting more fluent and he doesn't need to sound out many words (even untaught word patterns!). Eta - yeah!!! But reading words from a list without context he sounds out most/all words. This is a typical symptom of dyslexia (or maybe 2e) correct? Easier reading for him in context vs without context. Or is this maybe even a normal reading process? It's a dramatic difference and we're at the point of fluency in easy readers for me to see it that it's got me curious and on the alert for proper dictation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storygirl Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I only have my own child to go by, but DD10 can read many words via context clues that she cannot read when they are isolated on a page. Her reading skills far outstrip her phonological ability, which is interesting. However, her fluency is not great. By fluency I don't mean her ability to read a sentence quickly and with expression. She can do that. I mean that she makes a lot of word-level mistakes. She may skip words or substitute an incorrect word or stumble over a word while guessing. It's tricky, because someone not paying close attention to the text while she is reading it would think that she is doing well. She also has very high comprehension skills, so she is able to guess accurately. The NP said that he would say her phonological disability is severe, but the overall severity of her dyslexia is moderate, because she can "read" more difficult material than she can actually decode. I'm really glad that she can read on grade level, but it makes it difficult for her teachers to understand the disability and guide her to appropriate reading materials in the classroom. The NP said to make sure that she selects books that are at her proper reading level, which is much lower than what it appears to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wapiti Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 My dd6 does a bit of this. It might just be that his skill in using context to guess is simply a more efficient method for him with the levels of readers he's using. I tend to think it's normal but it depends. If he can successfully sound out the word without context, but guesses correctly within context, I might wonder about visual memory if he sees the word often. (Does this make sense? But no, I don't see a potential connection to dyslexia unless there's an inability to sound them out?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutingmom Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I would think that is normalwhile reading ability is developing. It isn't a dyslexia symptom I am familiar with (and I have a dyslexic student...) Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
displace Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Ok, so maybe a normal reading process? I still strictly control reading material but DS is just starting to read spontaneously everywhere. The readers he has been reading spontaneously do have a ton of context clues (much more than I usually have for his readers), so I guess we'll see. Maybe if it continues with his controlled readers that don't have context clues either I'll form some sort of opinion on it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storygirl Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I do think it's related to dyslexia. The book Overcoming Dyslexia, which I've been reading recently, addresses it. I don't remember my other non-dyslexic children struggling to read words in isolation that they can read in context. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyomarie Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 It is very common for bright and gifted students with dyslexia to do better reading words in context than when presented individually or in a list. These kids use their intelligence- their reasoning, oral language skills (vocabulary & syntax), and metacognitive skills- to put the whole picture together when reading a passage. They are able to make reasonable guesses about unknown words based on typical sentence patterns and perhaps the beginning and/or ending letters in a word. This is especially true for kids who have been read aloud to since they were very young. When words are presented individually or in a list, the student must rely solely on single word decoding skills, which are most impacted in dyslexia. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
displace Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 I do think it's related to dyslexia. The book Overcoming Dyslexia, which I've been reading recently, addresses it. I don't remember my other non-dyslexic children struggling to read words in isolation that they can read in context.Yes, I could get out one of my reference books but I was hoping to avoid *research*! That's why I wanted to ask here as I figure someone would know off the top of their head. 😀 Thanks for the comment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathermomster Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Be encouraged because your DS is learning the code. Dyslexic kiddos need more decoding practice. An NT child might see and say a new word up to 5-10 times and then bank it. Dyslexics may need to see and say a new word 15-25 times. These kiddos compensate as TokyoMarie mentioned, so maybe slow down and work on the lists more. ETA: Your DS sounds like he needs more practice, which can be difficult because he needs appropriately controlled readers and they can be expensive and problematic to find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geodob Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 When we read and understand the context? Our brain is actually ahead of our eyes, and predicting what is to come? With various possible outcomes. So that when the eyes move forward, it confirms or denies what was predicted. New words can be understood, from their context. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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