Reefgazer Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Can anyone recommend a version of this book that might be suitable for a middle schooler? I would like to buy a copy in English and then also another copy in French. For the French copy, I would like a version that would be suitable for a middle schooler who is working through high French II. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Other than a highly edited one, I can't see it being suitable except maybe for translation work only. The level of detail and backstory in this book would inspire Tolkien. So much is included that isn't immediately about the story at hand, I can see a middle schooler getting discouraged trying to read through. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I wish I could help. I only know that in 9th grade, we read Les Mis in French class and it was a hugely abridged version. So it existed back in the late 1980s...but I don't know how to get it. (It was written in French.) I wonder if you contacted a school if the French teacher would know about it? Then again, nowadays, it's gotta be somewhere online. I would think that this would still be something French teachers would want. (An abridged copy written at a low level in French for their students.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesje22000 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Would this work? http://www.amazon.fr/misérables-Jean-Valjean-Texte-Abrégé/dp/2010015770/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1444044448&sr=1-2&keywords=Miserables http://www.amazon.fr/misérables-Cosette-Texte-Abrégé/dp/2010015789/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1444044475&sr=1-3&keywords=Miserables http://www.amazon.fr/misérables-Gavroche-Texte-Abrégé/dp/2010015797/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1444044496&sr=1-4&keywords=Miserables 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesje22000 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 And others with CD: http://www.blackcat-cideb.com/french-catalogue/357-miserables-les-9788853009111.html http://www.languages-direct.com/eli-graded-readers-les-miserables-victor-hugo.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yes, this is what I want it for - French translation. But I also need a middle school version so that DD knows the backstory, even if it's highly edited. Other than a highly edited one, I can't see it being suitable except maybe for translation work only. The level of detail and backstory in this book would inspire Tolkien. So much is included that isn't immediately about the story at hand, I can see a middle schooler getting discouraged trying to read through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 Perfect! This is what I am looking for, I just wasn't sure of the appropriate level for a French I-French II student. Do you happen to know which of the three choices would be for French 1? And others with CD:http://www.blackcat-cideb.com/french-catalogue/357-miserables-les-9788853009111.htmlhttp://www.languages-direct.com/eli-graded-readers-les-miserables-victor-hugo.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 Also, can anyone recommend an edited version appropriate for a middle schooler? I get that an edited version loses something, but I would like her to have the framework of the story before she begins reading in French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madteaparty Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Following with interest. My DS could not have read a french Les Mis after French 2, unless abridged to where there's more pictures than words on the page.(and he knows the story from the Broadway show--sigh) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesje22000 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Sorry :blush: I should ave written my posts carefully :blush: I have no idea what Americans study in French 1 or 2. I know that Flemish and Dutch start reading in grade 9 after 2 years of French... But it was your child who went to immersion camp this summer Reefgeezer? Or am I mixing up two board members? I will take a more detailed look and come back to order the materials at difficulty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesje22000 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 lire et s'entrainer / Black Cat = B1 eli = B1 but has less text in audio, just every other chapter The books from livre poche jeunesse are 4me according the french schoolsystem. So grade 8/9 I suppose. B1 is what we cover during grade 9. In France and Belgium it isn't uncommon to read 'bandes dessinees'. So if a child needs more support through pictures one can opt for a BD version of Les Miserables. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 I just saw DD's tutor today and she feels that the linked abridged versions would be a stretch for a French I/just barely French II student. So I will probably tuck them away for French III and try to find a simpler version (if that's possible) for now. Following with interest. My DS could not have read a french Les Mis after French 2, unless abridged to where there's more pictures than words on the page.(and he knows the story from the Broadway show--sigh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 No, mine didn't go to immersion camp - I remember that was another board member, but I can't remember which one. We did go to France this past spring, but not quite the same immersion experience as a camp. Sorry :blush:I should ave written my posts carefully :blush:I have no idea what Americans study in French 1 or 2.I know that Flemish and Dutch start reading in grade 9 after 2 years of French...But it was your child who went to immersion camp this summer Reefgeezer?Or am I mixing up two board members?I will take a more detailed look and come back to order the materials at difficulty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 This is helpful. I think if we were to translate at this level, DD would need toe BD version. lire et s'entrainer / Black Cat = B1eli = B1 but has less text in audio, just every other chapterThe books from livre poche jeunesse are 4me according the french schoolsystem.So grade 8/9 I suppose.B1 is what we cover during grade 9.In France and Belgium it isn't uncommon to read 'bandes dessinees'.So if a child needs more support through pictures one can opt for a BD version of Les Miserables. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madteaparty Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 My DS is doing an immersion currently ( not camp), so maybe you're thinking of us :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 We did translation of Les Miserables in French III when I was in school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 My daughter has been to French immersion camp for two summers and will go again this next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Based on what you and the French tutor say, perhaps I am reaching too far in expecting DD to translate at her level then. We did translation of Les Miserables in French III when I was in school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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