Ignore this thread!

[Another Lynn]

I am truly shocked and disappointed...

 

I would have shown some leg :D

Like!

 

Prairie, I'm saying bad words about people who post that diet cures cancer.

 

#appropriatefail

 

#again

Like!

 

Satan leaves me alone since I am a heathen and all. 

 

#inappropriatenessiscontagiousheretoallwhoenterbeware

:lol:

 

I am now ketched up. Whew.

 

However, I ran out of likes (horror of horrors) back around page 909. :crying:

 

Quote of the day is by Susan: "Glitter is the venereal disease of the craft world." I will never, ever look at glitter in the same way again:-)

 

Poetry and the Prof do not get along. I agree with Lynn... Just say it, for Pete's sake. And if it doesn't have some rhyming in it, I am just done. The rhyming calms me lol. I love beautiful language and symbolism. I just find that mode of self-expression more frustrating than satisfying. Don't know why.

 

As far as the eyelid pinching incident. I have told my guys that if they hurt a girl, be ready to get nailed in the nuts. That is what I would teach my girls to do as well. I took self-defense in high school and college. I think they have some value, but only if the instructor makes it clear not to get a big head. Unless you practice often, most of what you learn in a few classes will not instantly come to mind. You need muscle memory for that. This is why martial arts folks practice incessantly. It has to become automatic to work in a fight/high pressure situation. Kind of like math facts, lol.

 

Still valuable, as long as young lady taking it doesn't feel like she can now take a guy who has 50-100 pounds on her. That is just not realistic. Kudos on the nut crunch advice. :D

 

#iwasinappropriateforTex

Yes! 

 

I am God's favorite, and that pisses Satan right off.

 

#theinappropriateneverends

Like!

 

I'm going to put that up on our kitchen chalkboard.

 

DAYS SINCE LAST INAPPROPRIATE INCIDENT:

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Like!

 

I see this as the cover/title to our book.

Like!

 

I taught on Hamlet to my English students. I also acted out and explained the poem Ozymandias. I read Richard Cory. If you are not moved by Richard Cory, your heart is black and cold.

 

I'll wait here while you all read it.

Ummmm..... haven't we already established my heart is black and cold?  It seems like a senseless act to me. 

[Another Lynn]

I was interested in your slam poetry, and I started to look at it but it was too long and my life fell apart and my kitteh was sick and I lost my mind and my power and my religion and any sense of appropriateness.  But I want to see it soon.  Right now I have to change pants and pack and go away because we have power.   :D

 

YAY!!!!  :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:   My next post was mourning your canceled trip.  SO glad it's back on!!!

 

[texasmama]

you're exempt because sick kitteh 

 

also, you already like poetry 

 

also I'm not kidding that it makes me cry & I think it would make most people emotional & you're also exempt because you're already emotional 

 

 

 

p.s. do you have special pants for power outages? 

I am a hot mess.  I think I wasn't this emotional when pg.  I have yoga pants that are my comfy travel pants since I am chubby as of late.  

 

And yes, I like poetry.  I talked about the non poetry liking crowd at class today and extolled the virtues of poetry because I had a captive audience who was forced to listen to me since I am the teacher.

[Junie]

Tex, Just go away already!   :lol:  I hope you have a wonderful weekend with your dh.

 

Tell your kids to post to the ITT in your stead.  We'll make sure that they are appropriate-ish while you're gone.  :)

[texasmama]

Tex, Just go away already!   :lol:  I hope you have a wonderful weekend with your dh.

 

Tell your kids to post to the ITT in your stead.  We'll make sure that they are appropriate-ish while you're gone.   :)

:lol:   Now I'm waiting for him to do some work stuff.  This is typical.  But he was nice to me earlier when I fell apart and told him I just wanted to sit and cry so he gets away with some stuff.  :D

 

I fear my kids will be inappropriate but probably not as much as me.  I have abs of steel from holding all the inappropriateness in. :hat:

[sweetpea3829]

Was that an insult? :laugh: (kidding)

 

I know not everyone here does, but I see threads about it all the time and was wondering why people were interested. What do they hope to gain?

 

For a lot of parents....bragging rights.

 

IQ testing was part of DDs neuropsych eval.  They also did some IQ testing with Eldest DS when he was having Early Intervention evals for his speech (his connected speech was unintelligible).  

 

But Jean is right...a high IQ â‰  intelligence/common sense.  I would be a classic example of that...lol.  Just a good test taker, overall.  

[Junie]

We sometimes do the OLSAT with the Stanford test.  When we started testing, I didn't know what the OLSAT was.  Now that we have "numbers" for the older DC, I figure we should get IQ numbers for the little ones, too.

 

Dd13 is especially interesting in seeing dd8's OLSAT score.  (This is the first year we've done the OLSAT for her.)  Dd8 is really smart (but she hates doing schoolwork.)  It will be interesting to see her test results this year.

 

Dd5 may be 2E, but I'm not required to test her for Kindergarten.  We'll wait until next year.

[Slache]

For a lot of parents....bragging rights.

 

IQ testing was part of DDs neuropsych eval.  They also did some IQ testing with Eldest DS when he was having Early Intervention evals for his speech (his connected speech was unintelligible).  

 

But Jean is right...a high IQ â‰  intelligence/common sense.  I would be a classic example of that...lol.  Just a good test taker, overall.  

Same here. I tested strait into college courses I should not have and was a little frightened to go. :lol: When I was in grade school they taught us test taking skills to up the state average. I was one of the kids "left behind" educationally, but I look great on paper!

[lots of little ducklings]

Oh Duckling, I'm not sure I'm up for it!

 

Tex - had a rash, went on prednisone, nearly conquered the world, sprained her ankle, is going away with dh for first time in 14 years this weekend?

 

Jean - has had pain and not fun symptoms, thought about an experimental drug and decided against it.  Her ds finished history and only has lit. to go to graduate (I think I forgot to celebrate that earlier!!!)

 

Ellie - is on a trip to see the mouse of California.

 

Sweet pea - went to RI to visit family and is now home.

 

Prairie - has had illness at her house, but hopefully on the mend now.

 

Dawn - Marching Band practice has restarted for next year, and they are visiting churches.

 

Heather - has been scarce, but checks in occasionally

 

Renai - is keeping an ITT file of recipes and prayer/good thought requests.  She's knee deep in end of year portfolio stuff.  She's hoping there might be a part time position next year.  (I'm hoping for her too!)

 

Ikslo - Well, today she's tired of MCT's poetry program, lol.  Also, her dh has gotten a new job and starts in a couple weeks?

 

Mary - gave notice where she teaches that she won't be back next year and is applying for a couple administrative jobs and had a skills evaluation for one.

 

Critterfixer - her old cat had eye surgery (right?) and she's doing a Nanowrimo camp and half way to her goal of 50,000 words.  Amazing.

 

Susan - only has a couple brain dead Tuesdays left.  Her dh's co-worker left putting a lot more work on him, (which had already happened once before without relief, so a bit stressful.) 

 

Slache - the baby is moving so much and so big she thinks she's having twins.  Her mom quit a job, got a job and quit a job, but has someone to stay with for now. 

 

Junie - help, I can't remember, latest news....

 

Hornblower - dd is taking finals.  Dh picked study time to clean windows, lol.  (not exactly a quiet activity, lol.)

 

Tsuga - bought a house and moved in.

 

JoJosMom - Jo Jo is going to Washington DC for Math Counts!

 

Krissi - .....has beautiful flowers in her yard and I don't.

 

I feel like I'm forgetting lots of important things!

 

 

LYNN!  YOU ARE AMAZING!!  AND YES, I AM YELLING THIS.

 

You rock.   I envy you your brain cells.  (I only have 2.3 brain cells left.)

 

I'm hoping life will be slowing down soon.  It doesn't help that we junked the 20 year-old tv, so my only downtime is when kids are watching videos on my laptop.  Meaning ITT can only happen on my very slow and old phone, or not at all.  :crying:

 

Soooo.... it is kids' Friday movie time, which they are standing here reminding me about in no uncertain terms.  

 

But I puffy-heart all of you and am glad that most everyone seems to be doing fairly well!!  Praying for you today, Jean.  

 

PS - I just asked dd7 how many more times she can say, "MOOOOOMMMY.  Can it be moooovie time yet?" and she said "100."   :svengo:

Edited April 15, 2016 by Lotsoflittleducklings

[Slache]

Somehow the package of Easter candy MIL sent has resulted in a slightly rounder Mooies.

 

I made the menu for the next two weeks, now I just have to make the grocery list. :svengo: And clean out the fridge. :scared:  

Edited April 15, 2016 by Slache

[JoJosMom]

What's the point of IQ testing? What do you learn?

 

I was given the Stanford University IQ test in 8th grade by the recommendation of my 6th grade math teacher and I scored incredibly high. This was a program they were trying out and we didn't pay for the test. I've known others that didn't score nearly as well as I did, but are significantly smarter than I am. I'm not short changing myself, I'm smart, but I'm not anything special. What was I supposed to take away from that test? All I think of it now is that IQ tests don't tell you anything about someone's actual intelligence. Everyone here seems hell bent on having their kids tested. I also thought that IQ tests in children weren't trustworthy. Is that incorrect?

 

You have opened up a can of worms-a can that I find particularly fascinating.  Just saying "IQ" causes people to freak out.  My personal opinion is that we mix up "high IQ" with "high value" and resent the first label for all the wrong reasons. We also mix up the term "high IQ" with "intelligence" and get ourselves thoroughly confuzzled because no one is using consistent definitions.

 

This article, I think, does a pretty good job of explaining IQ tests -what they are and aren't - and discussing their value.

 

Was that an insult? :laugh: (kidding)

 

I know not everyone here does, but I see threads about it all the time and was wondering why people were interested. What do they hope to gain?

 

They  can be a helpful tool when trying to figure out if a child's achievement matches his potential.  They are often used in conjunction with full educational assessments, particularly in children with learning issues.

 

The only one of my kids who has had multiple cognitive testing is my kid with special needs as a result of the public school evaluation.

 

See above.

 

I know. I was being silly. Genius runs in my family, the kind you don't want your kid to have, and those people have absolutely no common sense whatsoever. It makes their lives so much harder.

 

This is a good example of the difference between that which is measured by IQ tests and that which we describe as intelligence.  (For an interesting side trip, google the correlations between left-handedness and both retardation and genius.)

 

For a lot of parents....bragging rights.

 

IQ testing was part of DDs neuropsych eval.  They also did some IQ testing with Eldest DS when he was having Early Intervention evals for his speech (his connected speech was unintelligible).  

 

But Jean is right...a high IQ â‰  intelligence/common sense.  I would be a classic example of that...lol.  Just a good test taker, overall.  

 

Good example, I think, of my first point.  We -the general, global we - are seriously uncomfortable with the whole concept of IQ and inherent intelligence.

 

We sometimes do the OLSAT with the Stanford test.  When we started testing, I didn't know what the OLSAT was.  Now that we have "numbers" for the older DC, I figure we should get IQ numbers for the little ones, too.

 

Dd13 is especially interesting in seeing dd8's OLSAT score.  (This is the first year we've done the OLSAT for her.)  Dd8 is really smart (but she hates doing schoolwork.)  It will be interesting to see her test results this year.

 

Dd5 may be 2E, but I'm not required to test her for Kindergarten.  We'll wait until next year.

 

The OLSAT operates as a quick and dirty IQ test but is not effective on the margins, i.e,. it's only reliable at the middle of the bell curve.

 

 

 

The brain is a most fascinating organ.  Were I gifted with a higher IQ, I would seriously love to be a neuro-scientist when I grow up. (Also note:  Despite my fascination, I've never had DD tested.)

 

ETA:  I forgot the link!  Oh, the irony! :lol:

Edited April 15, 2016 by JoJosMom

[Openhearted]

:grouphug: Prarie :grouphug:

 

You done the right thing. Well done.

 

(Just let us know if you need the Ninja Elephant Bazooka Brigade. I will be the one at the front of the line.)

[hornblower]

 

 

 

They  can be a helpful tool when trying to figure out if a child's achievement matches his potential.  They are often used in conjunction with full educational assessments, particularly in children with learning issues.

 

 

 

 

Until dsm-V,  a large chunk of the definition of a learning disability such as dyslexia required the iq scores. There had to be a certain spread between what would have been predicted by iq testing v. what they're demonstrating on a set task. 

 

Dd was tested because of a suspected LD & she was tested under dsm-IV so she got the iq test battery as well. 

 

Ds hasn't been tested yet because odds are he also has the LD (as does dh). Ds will have to make the decision whether to do it (to get accommodations at post secondary) & if he does I'll be interested to see how the psychologist does it now. 

 

http://dyslexiahelp.umich.edu/sites/default/files/IDA_DSM-5%20Changes.pdf

[Openhearted]

About my mother, it is not good. She is refusing help and is defensive. Dh spoke with her while we were gone, and she called him judgemental for saying she seemed more slow than usual. So I didn't really try to speak with her about her health. I took her some food, asked if she needed anything, how she felt and left it at that. If she is being defensive with Dh, she will tell me off. And I don't want that, not at this point anyway. She is slower, but not confused. She is in her right mind, and alert to person, place and time. So I need to stay on her good side for now. It is very stressful watching this process again and again and again. Just waiting for her to get so bad that law enforcement needs called to get her help. There is a fine line between competent an incompetent.

[Slache]

:mellow:

 

Edited April 16, 2016 by Slache

[Slache]

I can't find any of my cousins on Facebook! What is this world coming to?

[Susan in TN]

I survived Super Walmart.

 

The struggle was real.

[JoJosMom]

 

 

The box above is just to give my comments context.

 

What you are describing is mental illness, not IQ.  BUT the link between the two is scary/fascinating.  If you follow the rabbit trail I suggested earlier, you will find it linked to this one.

[JoJosMom]

BTW, could someone pass me the brain bleach?  I ventured into the Other World and read a thread on teen-aged boys and smart phones.  Have I mentioned my former life as a prosecutor?  And the years that I spent prosecuting juvenile s*x crimes?  And how the most common feature linking the minors I prosecuted was being the victim of prior abuse, but the second most common was pornography?

 

I am feeling sick right now.

[Slache]

(((JJM)))

[Openhearted]

:grouphug: JJM

 

Don't swim in the sea. Stay in the safe place (ITT). :)

[Renai]

I see this as the cover/title to our book.

 

I had already added it to the ITTisms file. :D Hmmm, the title, eh?

[Renai]

I taught on Hamlet to my English students. I also acted out and explained the poem Ozymandias. I read Richard Cory. If you are not moved by Richard Cory, your heart is black and cold.

 

I'll wait here while you all read it.

 

Um. The guy committed suicide. My heart isn't the problem. But, hey, we all have our problems. We deal with them differently.

[Renai]

Yes, ma'am. I have read it, ma'am.  It is moving, ma'am. 

 

I feel the same way about Shane Koyczan's slam To This Day that I linked pages back & yet, nobody commented on it  :crying: 

Perhaps I should have specified this was not an optional assignment and there would be a test and that I'd wait here until you watched....  :laugh: 

 

 

 

 

I listened to most of it, but then paused it to have my oldest listen to it with me because I liked what I heard so far. I finally just saved it, created a TED account to do that, and will finish watching with dd16 gets back home on Sunday. :D

[texasmama]

Um. The guy committed suicide. My heart isn't the problem. But, hey, we all have our problems. We deal with them differently.

And yet you are unmoved. Sigh.

 

On the road.

 

Spoke with the medical director of the animal hospital and she reports that Marley is eating and skittish but getting used to them. Skittish is her norm so this is a good thing. She was a limp noodle when she was sick. The vet said a rubber lizard head is a new one to remove from cat guts. She will call back tomorrow with a report. She felt that Marley will make a full recovery. 

Edited May 25, 2016 by texasmama

[Susan in TN]

My family is now making fun of the song "Jesus Rides the Subway" and also the fact that Tex's cat had to have surgery for eating a rubber lizard head.

 

The struggle is real.

[texasmama]

My family is now making fun of the song "Jesus Rides the Subway" and also the fact that Tex's cat had to have surgery for eating a rubber lizard head.

 

The struggle is real.

Sigh.

 

#basementofheaven

[JoJosMom]

And yet you are unmoved. Sigh.

 

On the road.

 

Spoke with the medical director of the animal hospital and she reports that Marley is eating and skittish but getting used to them. Skittish is her norm so this is a good thing. She was a limp noodle when she was sick. The vet said a rubber lizard head is a new one to remove from cat guts. She will call back tomorrow with a report. She felt that Marley will make a full recovery. Little dd cleaned her room without being asked.

 

How is little DD feeling, Tex?  She's not blaming herself, is she?

[Junie]

#thebasementisbetterthantheshed

[texasmama]

How is little DD feeling, Tex? She's not blaming herself, is she?

I think she felt badly but she is a feeler. Her motivation is keeping Marley safe. Crazy cat.

[ikslo]

#thebasementisbetterthantheshed

The basement is where the monsters are. I'd rather be in the shed with the gardening tools.

[Jean in Newcastle]

Dd made me go to Walmart.  We escaped with our lives. 

[Jean in Newcastle]

I am going to make a savory chicken hash. 

[Jean in Newcastle]

Would it be bad if I offered ten dollars to my daughter if she could find a specific book down in the Schoolroom of Doom?  It would entice her to go in but she might never come out. 

[Tsuga]

 

I am feeling sick right now.

 

I'm sorry. I can't talk about that thread actually but I feel for you as I too have past life work experience that makes it impossible for me to not see the incoming train wrecks.

[sweetpea3829]

I was quoting to complain about the link. Now I shall go read it.

 

Sadly, the members of my family with high IQs are truly brilliant, but it's a curse more than a blessing. My uncle, when not on illegal drugs, cannot sleep at night because his brain is constantly running. He takes sleeping medication but only gets about 3 hours a night in. He makes more money in a year than most will in a lifetime when he works but life becomes too hard and he always turns back to drugs. His son is the same way. He was pursuing a masters at the age of 12, but lives on the streets now and has since he was 16. Those are my mother's brother and nephew. My mother's sister has a daughter the same way and they took great care to feed her brain and I believe she's doing well. Yale medical school actually invented a program for her. She wants to preform brain surgery on unborn children because she believes that if she can correct disabilities in the womb their brains will grow correctly and the person will be fine. I believe she began the program at 17. This all sounds very impressive but if you knew her she's absolutely miserable, has severe OCD and other conditions and will probably never be happy. When John seemed to be showing above average intelligence at a young age I could have cried. The idea of one my children with level of intelligence was absolutely devastating. I'm happy to report I have a completely average child that learned to read early.

 

Oi, don't quote that. That's some nasty stuff and I'm going to delete it.

 

 

There is a shocking level of correlation between very high IQ/Intelligence and significant mental illness.  It's like the brain has to compensate somehow.  To me, the brain and dynamics of all of this is truly fascinating.  As is sociology, people in general, nature vs. nurture, etc.  

 

 

I mean....the concept of intelligence itself is fascinating.  What makes a person "intelligent"?  Society accepts intelligence to indicate persons that can reason well, think critically and abstractly, etc.  They absorb information readily, recall information easily, have strong memories, etc.  

 

I can do all of those things.  But...my house is a disorganized mess.  I make stupid common sense mistakes and always have.  I struggled with higher mathematics (because I didn't really have the foundation I needed).  

 

I look at my oldest child.  Her IQ is slightly below average.  Her ability to reason is very poor.  Her critical thinking is weak.  Her ability to absorb and synthesize information is poor.  

 

But...she has VERY strong interpersonal strengths.  She is adored by all of the old ladies at church.  She is the first one to welcome church visitors and is never shy about inviting visiting kids to our AWANA club.  I don't know what her future holds...and I worry for her, because she falls short in all of society's perceived areas of intelligence.  But it's clear she has a gift with interacting with people.  A gift I've always lacked.  

 

 

I've always appreciated Gardner's Multiple Intelligence Theory, but when DD was born, his theories became even more relevant.  Now if only society could see the value in these other intelligences.  

[Renai]

 

I am feeling sick right now.

 

I haven't seen the thread either. As a juvenile corrections officer, our youngest s*x offender was 10. He had started at age 6. Movie exposure. What parent would allow that??? (yes, it was allowed)

 

Thanks for the warning. I won't venture there.

[Susan in TN]

Dd made me go to Walmart. We escaped with our lives.

Treacherous roads! The sea!

 

For dinner, we had Walmart deli sandwiches and strawberries with "grandma's" fruit dip (roughly equal parts sour cream and brown sugar). The kids kept asking what holiday it was for having such a special dinner. :D

[Renai]

Today I had to be in two different places at the same time. It was interesting.

[JoJosMom]

Today I had to be in two different places at the same time. It was interesting.

 

Everyone needs a doppelganger.  Particularly women people.

 

[KrissiK]

BTW, could someone pass me the brain bleach?  I ventured into the Other World and read a thread on teen-aged boys and smart phones.  Have I mentioned my former life as a prosecutor?  And the years that I spent prosecuting juvenile s*x crimes?  And how the most common feature linking the minors I prosecuted was being the victim of prior abuse, but the second most common was pornography?

 

I am feeling sick right now.

 

I was looking at that thread a bit a couple days ago, and then felt like I wanted to slap someone, so I left and never went back. 

Dd made me go to Walmart.  We escaped with our lives.

 

Sounds like me and Costco. Just came back from that pit and am now in recovery mode.... laying on my bed, ketchupping up on ITT.

  

Would it be bad if I offered ten dollars to my daughter if she could find a specific book down in the Schoolroom of Doom?  It would entice her to go in but she might never come out.

 

Not bad. Good parenting, it is!

 

So, dd10 was held hostage by elderly cat today. Dd went missing, I figured she was outside playing. DS comes in from the garage and says, "I found A". She was sitting on the floor of the garage with elderly cat on her lap, crying. "Nikki won't let me put her down, she keeps scratching and biting me!" Honestly, I have no idea what the deal was. I just picked up the cat and put her down. She didn't so much as protest. Strange.

[Renai]

I used to be an Avon Rep. Just though you'd like to know. I am currently on the website stocking up on soap and stuff. Things are on sale and there's a 15% off coupon. You know, I used to get quite a few clothes from Avon. They have some pretty stuff sometimes.

 

I think I'm done rambling about random things now.

 

Oh, no. Wait. I will be working from home this weekend because I have portfolios and lesson plans to do.

[Susan in TN]

My understanding of cats:

 

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." Unknown

[KrissiK]

:grouphug: JJM

 

Don't swim in the sea. Stay in the safe place (ITT). :)

No kidding. There are some ....er.... interesting threads (not) going on over there. Just stay here on the commune. We understand eachother!

[Another Lynn]

The basement is where the monsters are. I'd rather be in the shed with the gardening tools.

 

That's where the serial killers are!  :leaving:

 

[hornblower]

"Be wary of studies that link mental ill health with creativity or high IQ" http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/21/mental-ill-health-creativity-high-iq-genius

While there are plenty of very high iq people who also have schizophrenia or bipolar disease, there are plenty of mentally ill people with low iq, and there are plenty of high iq people with no mental disease.  

 

[texasmama]

"Be wary of studies that link mental ill health with creativity or high IQ" http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/21/mental-ill-health-creativity-high-iq-genius

 

While there are plenty of very high iq people who also have schizophrenia or bipolar disease, there are plenty of mentally ill people with low iq, and there are plenty of high iq people with no mental disease.

 

 

Yes.

 

ETA: it's an "I concur" booya(h).

Edited April 16, 2016 by texasmama

[texasmama]

double post, yo

Edited April 16, 2016 by texasmama

[Jean in Newcastle]

double post, yo

 

Does that make it a yo yo? 

 

[Slache]

I got my tablet. Go answer my thread.