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Gymnast tells me she has bad dreams of my demise and wakes telling me she's glad I'm not dead.

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We're finally home!  Well, except dh.  I kept trying to leave and someone else would want something.  It's all good, though, because next week is a short week.

Ds and I are having salad.  

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2 hours ago, Where's Toto? said:

Can someone share a super easy recipe for rice pudding?  I love rice pudding but haven't ever made it.  And pretty much never buy it.  I don't think I've had it in years, but I do like it.  I just eat it when it happens to be available.   I used to work for BASF Pharma and they had a really good rice pudding in the cafeteria. 

I don't do the baked kind. The recipe I use is all on top of the stove. I'll hunt down the recipe I use if you want.

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1 hour ago, Critterfixer said:

Rice Pudding

2 cups of water

1/4 tsp salt

1 cup medium grain rice (I will use a mix of medium, arborio, long grain, whatever I have)

4 cups milk

1 cup cream

2/3 cup sugar

2 tsp vanilla extract

1/4 tsp to 1/2 tsp almond extract (optional)

 

Bring water to boil in a large sauce pan. Add the rice and the salt. Cover and cook on low until most of the water is absorbed, but not all. Takes around 10-15 minutes depending on the type of rice. Add the milk, cream, and sugar. Cook, uncovered, on low heat until it thickens, stirring frequently. This can take a while--30 to 40 minutes. Add the vanilla extract and almond extract if using. Serve warm or cold. It's yummy.

You can use all whole milk, and some cream, or use milk and half and half. I typically just use 2% milk and cream. It's easier.

Looks similar to what I do.

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1 hour ago, Paradox5 said:

My washing machine smells bad! I’ve done all the tricks I know of: hot wash with a galloon of white vinegar. I cannot use bleach. Allergy. 
 

And my vacuum smells bad, too. 

Washer magic in the washing machine. 

What style of vacuum? What type of smell?

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Ok. Next week is baked garlic chicken with roasted veggies, kima, and tuna salad with fried veggies. Lunches are lettuce chicken wraps and vegetarian taco salad.

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This is the recipe I found that I still use every year and it never fails me.

http://joyfulbaker.blogspot.com/2011/09/simple-stovetop-rice-pudding.html?m=1

Tips to remember:

1. Use a pot with lots of room because there comes a point when the rice and milk foam up like a shaken soda and you don't want to clean a mess!

2. This will thicken as it cools so until you find that perfect consistency you like, just stir in a little more milk or cream when you pull some out of the fridge to eat.

3. To store, press plastic wrap directly on the surface of the pudding. This is what prevents that nasty pudding skin on top!

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3 minutes ago, Servant4Christ said:

 

3. To store, press plastic wrap directly on the surface of the pudding. This is what prevents that nasty pudding skin on top!

Is the pudding skin like the chocolate pudding skin?  Cause I LOVE that.  

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10 minutes ago, Where's Toto? said:

Is the pudding skin like the chocolate pudding skin?  Cause I LOVE that.  

Maybe? Not sure. It's that thin layer on top that some like, but not me. It happens when I make banana pudding, too.

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22 minutes ago, Where's Toto? said:

Is the pudding skin like the chocolate pudding skin?  Cause I LOVE that.  

Please don't do this again.

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1 hour ago, Where's Toto? said:

Is the pudding skin like the chocolate pudding skin?  Cause I LOVE that.  

BEWARE THE DREADED PUDDING SKIN!!!!

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I don’t know how to add links from my phone. I use Chef John’s recipe on all recipes app. 

1 cup long grain or whatever you have rice cooked until tender in a medium pot with 1/2 tsp salt and 2 cups of water. Add 2 cups milk, bring to a boil then whisking quickly, add 2 room temperature beaten egg YOLKS and stir like mad and cook until desired thickness. Take off heat, add 1/4 cup sugar, 1 tsp vanilla and 1 Tbls butter. Pour into a glass pan, cling wrap directly on pudding to avoid THE DREADED PUDDING SKIN!! (Yes, it must be written that way.). Allow to cool and eat it. This works fine using dairy free ingredients. Just cook longer. We don’t like dried fruit in it or spices but go ahead if you do.

 I ate rice pudding once as a child and it made me throw up so I never ate it again. Then for some reason, when we had to be dairy free, I decided I wanted to learn to make it. I made batch after batch. I still don’t like it very much but everyone else except ASD Boy does.

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Forgot the sugar!
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My method of ITTing:

“When you are a bear of very little brain, and you think of things, you find sometimes that a thing which seemed very thinkish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.” –Winnie the Pooh

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1 hour ago, Servant4Christ said:

Washer magic in the washing machine. 

What style of vacuum? What type of smell?

Never heard of washer magic. Will look next time. I’m pretty sure the smell is from the part where the inner drum and outer casing meet. When it leaked, the appliance guy took the metal off and I could see it all gucky brown/black.

The vacuum is a Kenmore with triple HEPA filter. The smell is hard to describe. It smells like mildew or dirt.

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5 minutes ago, Paradox5 said:

I don’t know how to add links from my phone.

When you type at the top of the box there is bold, italics, underline, emoji, then link. So copy the link from the website at the top of the page that you want to link, highlight the word that you wish to act as a link and a box should pop up. The top of the box should have the word that you have chosen. Leave that alone. In the next line you will paste the link that you copied. Then hit okay.

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I have no strong feelings for or against pudding skin.  Critter's recipe looks amazing.

I made it through rehearsal with nary a scratch.  My shoulder/neck is doing so much better.  No real pain today - just a bit of stiffness in my neck.  I am a stiff-necked people.  

It seems that tomorrow is when Extra Things start Happening and don't stop until December 18th.  One day at a time.  (At least I don't have anyone in dance or theatre!)

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Husband is wro- I mean we're having a disagreement and I want your opinion.

Parent owns a house, child rents an apartment. Parent says child can no longer do laundry at house. Child does not want to pay for laundry so child stops by a few times a week when child knows parent is working, puts laundry in washing machine and picks it up in a few days knowing parent will have rotated it in the necessity of doing parent household laundry.

The wise and all knowing Slache says parent needs to pull clothes from washer and throw them on the dirty floor. Matt says that's vindictive, I say it's showing that laundry will not be done. He says find a different way to show the boundary but neither of us could think of one.

Ok, go!

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32 minutes ago, Slache said:

Husband is wro- I mean we're having a disagreement and I want your opinion.

Parent owns a house, child rents an apartment. Parent says child can no longer do laundry at house. Child does not want to pay for laundry so child stops by a few times a week when child knows parent is working, puts laundry in washing machine and picks it up in a few days knowing parent will have rotated it in the necessity of doing parent household laundry.

The wise and all knowing Slache says parent needs to pull clothes from washer and throw them on the dirty floor. Matt says that's vindictive, I say it's showing that laundry will not be done. He says find a different way to show the boundary but neither of us could think of one.

Ok, go!

Trash bag on front porch.  New locks on doors.

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46 minutes ago, Slache said:

Husband is wro- I mean we're having a disagreement and I want your opinion.

Parent owns a house, child rents an apartment. Parent says child can no longer do laundry at house. Child does not want to pay for laundry so child stops by a few times a week when child knows parent is working, puts laundry in washing machine and picks it up in a few days knowing parent will have rotated it in the necessity of doing parent household laundry.

The wise and all knowing Slache says parent needs to pull clothes from washer and throw them on the dirty floor. Matt says that's vindictive, I say it's showing that laundry will not be done. He says find a different way to show the boundary but neither of us could think of one.

Ok, go!

Stupid question but has the child been told to stop doing that and if it continues there clothing will NOT be switched around but will be pulled out and put in a bag to mold and mildew?

If child was doing the entire batch of laundry, I wouldn't have a problem with them doing it, but dropping off expecting someone else to finish shouldn't happen without prior approval.  

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Happy Friday!  Last day of classes and then I'm off for a week.  And Friday is my favorite day.   I like my teenagers the best, we have to best discussions.

OF course, I have to clean house this weekend because MIL is coming to stay next week, dh is going down to get her this weekend and bringing her back after Thanksgiving.  I especially have to clean dd's room (which I must admit is a total disaster) because that's where she's sleeping.  

Rest of the week is prepare school, prepare classes, some rearranging at the classroom as usual.   I"m hoping to get everything planned through Christmas break since it was so nice having everything done the past couple of weeks.

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9 hours ago, Paradox5 said:

Never heard of washer magic. Will look next time. I’m pretty sure the smell is from the part where the inner drum and outer casing meet. When it leaked, the appliance guy took the metal off and I could see it all gucky brown/black.

The vacuum is a Kenmore with triple HEPA filter. The smell is hard to describe. It smells like mildew or dirt.

For the washer, one of these. It's what the Sears service trucks used to carry and use.

Glisten Washer Magic Washing Machine Cleaner and Deodorizer, 12 Fl. Oz. Bottle, 12fl https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N8V18B2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_bA91DbKH6S5H3

You can find it cheaper at Walmart, Lowe's or Home Depot. I use it once a year and the one for dishwashers too. I think they also use Affresh now which is tablet firm but I've never used it.

For your vacuum, the first thing I'd check is the roller to make sure no hair because that makes an awful smell over time. Next, I'd clean or change the filters. I also add a little baking soda to my canister.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Where's Toto? said:

Stupid question but has the child been told to stop doing that and if it continues there clothing will NOT be switched around but will be pulled out and put in a bag to mold and mildew?

If child was doing the entire batch of laundry, I wouldn't have a problem with them doing it, but dropping off expecting someone else to finish shouldn't happen without prior approval.  

Child has been told not to laundry but parent finds it easier to just do it rather than reinforce the boundary.

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1 minute ago, Slache said:

Child has been told not to laundry but parent finds it easier to just do it rather than reinforce the boundary.

In that case, parent has a new laundry job, lol.  

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The laundry problem will never be fixed. I'm wondering if I'm wrong in my thinking about just throwing the clothes on the floor.

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Good Morning!

Happy Friday!!

Thanksgiving decorations are up and groceries are ordered.

To-do list is being tackled, although there are still too many things on it.

 

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1 minute ago, Slache said:

The laundry problem will never be fixed. I'm wondering if I'm wrong in my thinking about just throwing the clothes on the floor.

Laundry is not the real problem, so what happens with the clothes really doesn't matter.

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1 hour ago, Slache said:

Husband is wro- I mean we're having a disagreement and I want your opinion.

Parent owns a house, child rents an apartment. Parent says child can no longer do laundry at house. Child does not want to pay for laundry so child stops by a few times a week when child knows parent is working, puts laundry in washing machine and picks it up in a few days knowing parent will have rotated it in the necessity of doing parent household laundry.

The wise and all knowing Slache says parent needs to pull clothes from washer and throw them on the dirty floor. Matt says that's vindictive, I say it's showing that laundry will not be done. He says find a different way to show the boundary but neither of us could think of one.

Ok, go!

 

7 minutes ago, Slache said:

Child has been told not to laundry but parent finds it easier to just do it rather than reinforce the boundary.

If parent is not willing to enforce the boundary, then that is the parent's problem.  Apparently this boundary needed to be reinforced 20 years ago.

Is there a good reason that the parent does not want the child doing laundry there?  Because it's happening anyway.  Maybe parent should just say, "Sure, come on over and do your laundry."

Parent can put a "gift certificate"  for Mom and Pop's Laundromat in child's Christmas stocking instead of buying child a gift.

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Good morning!

I have abs of pudding.

I have to take dd16 to apply for a passport today and then take a 4 hour drive (round trip) to pick up dd21 from school for Thanksgiving week.  The Youngers are so excited they actually cleaned their rooms!

Coffee!

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2 minutes ago, Junie said:

Is there a good reason that the parent does not want the child doing laundry there?  Because it's happening anyway.  Maybe parent should just say, "Sure, come on over and do your laundry."

No idea. Love the Christmas gift idea!

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8 hours ago, Slache said:

When you type at the top of the box there is bold, italics, underline, emoji, then link. So copy the link from the website at the top of the page that you want to link, highlight the word that you wish to act as a link and a box should pop up. The top of the box should have the word that you have chosen. Leave that alone. In the next line you will paste the link that you copied. Then hit okay.

That sounds sounds complicated, but probably because of all the extra words - bold, italics, etc. I get none of that. I just highlight the link, click copy (I get a pop up that says "cut, copy, etc..."), then switch back to this screen, and paste it (when I hold my finger in the typing box, I get another pop up that allows me to paste). It doesn't show a word I've chosen, so there's nothing to ignore. 

5 minutes ago, Slache said:

The laundry problem will never be fixed. I'm wondering if I'm wrong in my thinking about just throwing the clothes on the floor.

Yes, you'd be tripping over clothes and that's just more inconvenience. And yes, vindictive. It's just as easy to throw the clothes in a bag and move it out of the way.

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I'm thinking the parent who wants to throw it on the floor is NOT the parent who is not following through on the boundary?  Will throwing the clothes in a bag/floor/whatever cause issues between the parents?   Maybe a compromise would be throwing it in a plastic laundry basket.  Not as likely to mildew but parent not having to do the laundry and hopefully making a point that it wouldn't be happening anymore and they needed a new plan?  Maybe the first time send them a text, "your wet clothes are in a basket in the laundry room.  You probably want to come do something about it before they get smelly".

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22 minutes ago, Slache said:

The laundry problem will never be fixed. I'm wondering if I'm wrong in my thinking about just throwing the clothes on the floor.

I personally wouldn't throw wet laundry on the floor.  I would possibly dry it but not fold it.  Or if I felt the need to be harsher, I might put them wet in a basket to sit.  Perhaps your feelings about the person are leading you to want the parent to dump the clothes in the floor?  If I had reason enough to dump clothes on the floor, change locks, etc, I'm guessing there would also be reason enough to not rent the apartment to them anymore (lack of payment, illegal choices? or something else?).

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26 minutes ago, Slache said:

The laundry problem will never be fixed. I'm wondering if I'm wrong in my thinking about just throwing the clothes on the floor.

You're not wrong about not completing the laundry process.  IF they are going to start enforcing the boundary.  I can't imagine telling my grown kids they can't use the washer, though.  Is there a reason this boundary was tried?  Are they asking your suggestions, or are you and Matt just discussing what you would do at your house?  I would be very hesitant to let a whole load of clothing get ruined, but if there's a back story...

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9 hours ago, Slache said:

My method of ITTing:

“When you are a bear of very little brain, and you think of things, you find sometimes that a thing which seemed very thinkish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.” –Winnie the Pooh

Yay for Pooh Bear!

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Good morning!  It's Friday!!  

School, work, DD work, DD to bff's house, not sure I will make ds do school.while DD is gone, grocery order pick up, not sure what we will eat tonight.  I started the dishwasher.  I should go to Sam's after work, but do I wanna?

Cleaning house some this weekend.  Yay!  🥺

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21 minutes ago, Renai said:

That sounds sounds complicated, but probably because of all the extra words - bold, italics, etc. I get none of that. I just highlight the link, click copy (I get a pop up that says "cut, copy, etc..."), then switch back to this screen, and paste it (when I hold my finger in the typing box, I get another pop up that allows me to paste). It doesn't show a word I've chosen, so there's nothing to ignore. 

Yes, you'd be tripping over clothes and that's just more inconvenience. And yes, vindictive. It's just as easy to throw the clothes in a bag and move it out of the way.

1. I was trying to show location on the box.

2. The room is like 15X15 so no tripping. Any bag/basket etc. would be inconvenient. I was looking for the easiest solution.

17 minutes ago, Where's Toto? said:

I'm thinking the parent who wants to throw it on the floor is NOT the parent who is not following through on the boundary?  Will throwing the clothes in a bag/floor/whatever cause issues between the parents?   Maybe a compromise would be throwing it in a plastic laundry basket.  Not as likely to mildew but parent not having to do the laundry and hopefully making a point that it wouldn't be happening anymore and they needed a new plan?  Maybe the first time send them a text, "your wet clothes are in a basket in the laundry room.  You probably want to come do something about it before they get smelly".

Both parents would just do it, we're talking their household vs ours.

5 minutes ago, Another Lynn said:

I personally wouldn't throw wet laundry on the floor.  I would possibly dry it but not fold it.  Or if I felt the need to be harsher, I might put them wet in a basket to sit.  Perhaps your feelings about the person are leading you to want the parent to dump the clothes in the floor?  If I had reason enough to dump clothes on the floor, change locks, etc, I'm guessing there would also be reason enough to not rent the apartment to them anymore (lack of payment, illegal choices? or something else?).

Child takes basket with them, no bags etc. convienent. I think I would throw anyone's clothes on the floor. :laugh:

No the child rents an apartment across town unrelated to the parent. Child just drops laundry off because laundry is expensive at the apartment.

3 minutes ago, myblessings4 said:

You're not wrong about not completing the laundry process.  IF they are going to start enforcing the boundary.  I can't imagine telling my grown kids they can't use the washer, though.  Is there a reason this boundary was tried?  Are they asking your suggestions, or are you and Matt just discussing what you would do at your house?  I would be very hesitant to let a whole load of clothing get ruined, but if there's a back story...

Parent was complaining and Matt and I are just talking. We know that parent will just keep rotating and folding and complaining and there's no reason to mention it.

No back story. Child moves out and decides laundry is too expensive ($4/load!) so child brings laundry to parents and parents say no so child does it behind their backs which inconveniences them. Parents complain to us so we discuss it, now we're trying to figure out if I'm vindictive or not. To me vindictive implies a negative intent but my intention is to find the simplest solution.

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7 minutes ago, Slache said:

1. I was trying to show location on the box.

2. The room is like 15X15 so no tripping. Any bag/basket etc. would be inconvenient. I was looking for the easiest solution.

Both parents would just do it, we're talking their household vs ours.

Child takes basket with them, no bags etc. convienent. I think I would throw anyone's clothes on the floor. :laugh:

No the child rents an apartment across town unrelated to the parent. Child just drops laundry off because laundry is expensive at the apartment.

Parent was complaining and Matt and I are just talking. We know that parent will just keep rotating and folding and complaining and there's no reason to mention it.

No back story. Child moves out and decides laundry is too expensive ($4/load!) so child brings laundry to parents and parents say no so child does it behind their backs which inconveniences them. Parents complain to us so we discuss it, now we're trying to figure out if I'm vindictive or not. To me vindictive implies a negative intent but my intention is to find the simplest solution.

Ok.  So basically this family just makes no sense, anyway.  Do they love this child?  Would they allow a friend who needed to use their washer use it?  Are THEY vindictive people?  No need to answer, since this question was really about you.  I'm just letting some of the stuff in my brain fall out.  Yes, I believe the way you described doing it would be vindictive.  Was it done out of love?  There are other options that might kick start the kid into completing it on his own or getting it out of your way with no extra work.  So yes.  Vindictive.  

And I totally get, and we have used, tough love on our oldest.   In more ways than you can imagine.  So I can be tough on a grown kid   But this is just silly stuff this family is doing.  

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15 minutes ago, Slache said:

1. I was trying to show location on the box.

2. The room is like 15X15 so no tripping. Any bag/basket etc. would be inconvenient. I was looking for the easiest solution.

Both parents would just do it, we're talking their household vs ours.

Child takes basket with them, no bags etc. convienent. I think I would throw anyone's clothes on the floor. :laugh:

No the child rents an apartment across town unrelated to the parent. Child just drops laundry off because laundry is expensive at the apartment.

Parent was complaining and Matt and I are just talking. We know that parent will just keep rotating and folding and complaining and there's no reason to mention it.

No back story. Child moves out and decides laundry is too expensive ($4/load!) so child brings laundry to parents and parents say no so child does it behind their backs which inconveniences them. Parents complain to us so we discuss it, now we're trying to figure out if I'm vindictive or not. To me vindictive implies a negative intent but my intention is to find the simplest solution.

They may only want to vent, which is ok. But if the parents really do want a solution, they could always sit down the "child" when he/she comes back to retrieve laundry and say from now on, if you expect us to act as a laundry service provider, this is what you'll be charged for it. Break down the amount per load, per wash, per dry, and per fold & hang just like any other laundry service provider in town. Let the decision be the child's and the next time they pull the same stunt, hold the clothing ransom until they pay their bill just like any other laundry service provider in town. I'd think that would solve the issue AND set the boundary.

I understand allowing laundry access to help someone, especially someone you love. I also understand the flip side, of being taken advantage of and also wanting to encourage maturity, wise money management, and responsibility in grown children.

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Just now, myblessings4 said:

Ok.  So basically this family just makes no sense, anyway.  Do they love this child?  Would they allow a friend who needed to use their washer use it?  Are THEY vindictive people?  No need to answer, since this question was really about you.  I'm just letting some of the stuff in my brain fall out.  Yes, I believe the way you described doing it would be vindictive.  Was it done out of love?  There are other options that might kick start the kid into completing it on his own or getting it out of your way with no extra work.  So yes.  Vindictive.  

Ok. Thank you for calling me vindictive. My view (from mom's perspective) is "I've told you not to do this, you're still deliberately doing it, I'm tired of being inconvenienced, I'm not doing this for you, this will make you stop."

1 minute ago, Servant4Christ said:

If the parents really do want a solution, they could always sit down the "child" when he/she comes back to retrieve laundry and say from now on, if you expect us to act as a laundry service provider, this is what you'll be charged for it. Break down the amount per load, per wash, per dry, and per fold & hang just like any other service provider in town. Let the decision be the child's and the next time they pull the same stunt, hold the clothing ransom until they pay their bill just like any other laundry service provider in town. I'd think that would solve the issue AND set the boundary.

Lol! Servant is new to the thread!

Everyone knows (or can surmise) who I'm talking about and this would never happen. I'm just being vague because I feel like I'm being rude posting it.

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5 minutes ago, Slache said:

1. I was trying to show location on the box.

2. The room is like 15X15 so no tripping. Any bag/basket etc. would be inconvenient. I was looking for the easiest solution.

Both parents would just do it, we're talking their household vs ours.

Child takes basket with them, no bags etc. convienent. I think I would throw anyone's clothes on the floor. :laugh:

No the child rents an apartment across town unrelated to the parent. Child just drops laundry off because laundry is expensive at the apartment.

Parent was complaining and Matt and I are just talking. We know that parent will just keep rotating and folding and complaining and there's no reason to 

No back story. Child moves out and decides laundry is too expensive ($4/load!) so child brings laundry to parents and parents say no so child does it behind their backs which inconveniences them. Parents complain to us so we discuss it, now we're trying to figure out if I'm vindictive or not. To me vindictive implies a negative intent but my intention is to find the simplest solution.

Dh says it's more passive-aggressive than vindictive, and the solution is to change the locks. 

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Just now, Susan in TN said:

Dh says it's more passive-aggressive than vindictive, and the solution is to change the locks. 

Child needs to be able to access the house in an emergency.

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