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Hugs to you, Maize.  None of mine were anxious about me leaving (at least, not in a major way) so I'm not experienced with that, but DS12 has many sensory-related quirks that really impacted us out in public when he was younger.  It can be hard, especially if you are also dealing with adults who aren't understanding about it. I'm glad you can stay with little kernel.

 

ETA:  It's a Snuggle-em-while-you-still-can Booyah!  

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31 minutes ago, Slache said:

I have no insurance and no money. Most of my life I have had no insurance and no money. I remove my own ingrown toenails, treat my own flus and don't bother with testing for things like the flu or strep throat because they always go away. The only times I've ever gone to the doctor are when I have a urinary tract infection or when I'm pregnant and I only get pregnant when I'm insured.

I'm so sorry. Drs are definitely expensive without health insurance. We've had it and been without it at different points in time, too.

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2 minutes ago, Servant4Christ said:

I'm so sorry. Drs are definitely expensive without health insurance. We've had it and been without it at different points in time, too.

I'm not really worried about it. I've been sick since Monday and it's almost gone now. The bug I had before this dragged on for about 2 months but I was far from the only person with that problem. I even gave it to Maize!

I'm hoping to be done for the season at this point!

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We're home!  Church and lunch at church done, Christmas pics done, all the cooking done.  I made the bean soup, froze half of it, made quesadillas and cornbread.  DD unloaded the dishwasher and I loaded it.  I just need to wipe down the counters and stuff after everything cools enough to be out away.  

Sportsball time!

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1 hour ago, Servant4Christ said:

There's something about you and slippers. Makes me wonder how many pairs you own. 😂

❤️ Only one at a time. 😂

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The Raiders are still ahead, but not by much. Almost the end of the 3rd quarter. They could pull this off.  The Bengals aren’t that good (they’re 0-9) but anything could happen with the Raiders.

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1 hour ago, Slache said:

I'm not really worried about it. I've been sick since Monday and it's almost gone now. The bug I had before this dragged on for about 2 months but I was far from the only person with that problem. I even gave it to Maize!

I'm hoping to be done for the season at this point!

Did anyone pass you some elderberry syrup? I hear adding a little vodka makes all the difference. I had never thought about it's potential as a preservative before. 😀

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2 hours ago, Slache said:

I don't go to the doctor unless I think I could die. I don't know if it's a virus or...? I'm almost done.

I said I wasn't moving. No sippers.

(((Slache)))  The good news is that because of the ITT rule, you don't have to go to the dr.  You're welcome!

2 hours ago, maize said:

I think we had six kids today in nursery and that feels like a large group.

I'm still hanging out there with the youngest kernel cause he isn't ready to stay alone. He's made progress though, he even ran across the room to retrieve a ball. Usually he doesn't go more than two feet from me.

People without high anxiety kids don't understand; I watched a brand new 18 month old come in today and go straight to the toys without a single glance back at her dad.

I don't have a lot of nursery experience, but I would be surprised to see any 18 month old go straight to the toys.  I know not all kids cry when they're left, so I guess some of them are like that (straight for the toys).  Ack!  I'm not saying this well - I'm not doubting your high anxiety experience, I'm just saying it also seems within the range of normal to not want to be left at that age?  maybe?  

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4 minutes ago, Another Lynn said:

(((Slache)))  The good news is that because of the ITT rule, you don't have to go to the dr.  You're welcome!

I don't have a lot of nursery experience, but I would be surprised to see any 18 month old go straight to the toys.  I know not all kids cry when they're left, so I guess some of them are like that (straight for the toys).  Ack!  I'm not saying this well - I'm not doubting your high anxiety experience, I'm just saying it also seems within the range of normal to not want to be left at that age?  maybe?  

It is normal certainly for 18 month olds to not want to be left, this little girl was definitely on the extremely low separation anxiety side. Lots of kids will cry for a few minutes or need a parent to stay the first few times.

My guy is 30 months old and has been going to nursery for a full year and is still not ready to be left. There were several months when he wouldn't even stay in the room with me there if there were other people. Like most of my kids he seems to have a lot of underlying anxiety but he is also still dealing with trauma from a hospitalization last year that left him extremely wary of people other than immediate family.

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Our head nursery volunteer also told be that all her kids went straight in with no trouble.

She does seem to have accepted me being there though. She tried to coax Kernel to play with her and a couple of other kids last week; he got about half way to where she was then turned and ran back to me.

 

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Alex: Datty, I need mo papah.
Matt: I can't get you paper right now.
Alex: Yes you can. You hab wegs.
Matt: No I don't. I lost them in the war.
Alex: *inspects legs* Datty, dese are wegs.

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After having two that didn't cry after the usual developmental separation anxiety levels, DD and ds12 were totally different ballgames!  DD cried continuously when we tried to leave her, until she was over two years old (probably 3).  And then she still hated it.  Ds started crying when left in the nursery at 2 1/2 MONTHS.  He was four before he was actually "okay" with it.

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3 hours ago, maize said:

I think we had six kids today in nursery and that feels like a large group.

I'm still hanging out there with the youngest kernel cause he isn't ready to stay alone. He's made progress though, he even ran across the room to retrieve a ball. Usually he doesn't go more than two feet from me.

People without high anxiety kids don't understand; I watched a brand new 18 month old come in today and go straight to the toys without a single glance back at her dad.

11 today. 

I get you on the kid thing. I'm just too tired to elaborate.

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My bathrooms are still dirty. I took some baby wipes to the worst things. I kinda don't care anymore.

Dave did all the laundry and cooked all the meals today so I could lay around on the couch and watch movies with the kids. 🥰🥰🥰

Why didn't I teach my kids to clean the bathroom when I was smaller and had more energy? Oh, right, because I was teaching them to make basic breakfasts and lunches and how to do dishes and laundry. Okay, I stand by my choices.

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2 hours ago, Servant4Christ said:

Did anyone pass you some elderberry syrup? I hear adding a little vodka makes all the difference. I had never thought about it's potential as a preservative before. 😀

Ever since I started making vanilla a couple years back, we seem to have inordinate amounts of vodka in the house.  

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1 minute ago, Susan in TN said:

Ever since I started making vanilla a couple years back, we seem to have inordinate amounts of vodka in the house.  

What sorts of things do you do? I know people who buy it by the gallon.

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Dh thinks they've fixed the heat in ds24's car!  They flushed the heater core and replaced the fluid.  I don't know what any of that means.  We'll see how it does in the morning.

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My son would go off with anybody from a very young age.  It was actually very nerve-wracking since he was also speech-delayed and a runner.   I still had to watch him close because his behavior/social skills lapse way behind, even now.

My bathroom is clean.  About 1/2 the laundry is done. 

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1 minute ago, Slache said:

What sorts of things do you do? I know people who buy it by the gallon.

I make little bottles of vanilla.  And now I also make elderberry syrup.  That's it.  Once in a while we'll be getting low on vodka and I'll ask dh to pick some up and he'll get a giant bottle.  I have no other use for it.

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7 minutes ago, Susan in TN said:

Ever since I started making vanilla a couple years back, we seem to have inordinate amounts of vodka in the house.  

You MAKE vanilla?! That's so cool!

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EDPO:

I need permission to have The Girl skip the Saxon problems she knows which is like most of it, at this point. But I'm worried if I do that she might miss something. I never knew Saxon was SO SLOW at introducing things. Oh. my. word. already! She is on lesson 60 and it just covered multiplying 1 number by 2! No fractions yet. WAAY too much adding and subtracting. Seriously, she and I are about to spit nails. She is NOT advanced but catches on fast. She probably could have been except for Bad Mommy changing programs so much and being too much of a rule follower to just skip things without worrying about it. 

Maybe grab a used BJU book and skip all the stuff she knows? I swear, any more "This is how we add." will make us both scream. It is rather insulting to her intelligence.

Maybe what I need is a list of topics usually covered in 4th/5th grade math and teach it myself. I like teaching math, and am rather good at it. Y'all have any ideas to save her and my sanity?

Meanwhile, the boys love it. Go figure.

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9 hours ago, KrissiK said:

I have a really really overdue book.😩😩😩😩😩

A couple of years overdue?

9 hours ago, Slache said:

Is there a grace day? Like canned food or something?

No,but there are also no overdue fees, so...

 

3 hours ago, maize said:

I think we had six kids today in nursery and that feels like a large group.

I'm still hanging out there with the youngest kernel cause he isn't ready to stay alone. He's made progress though, he even ran across the room to retrieve a ball. Usually he doesn't go more than two feet from me.

People without high anxiety kids don't understand; I watched a brand new 18 month old come in today and go straight to the toys without a single glance back at her dad.

Yeah, I get it.

Gymnast will be 9, and only now can I leave her at the part day school. If I'm a couple of minutes late picking her up, she's on the verge of tears (the first time she did cry). She may meltdown once she's in the car because she dislikes crying in front of other people.  Anywhere else, she refuses to go unless she knows I'll be with her. Not in the vicinity, but there. I'm in the Chinese classes with her most of the time, but will let her know if I need to go take a walk. If I'm too long, I'll catch her peeking around the corners looking for me.

It's actually a lot better than it used to be, though. I used to not be able to go to the bathroom without her looking for me...

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More EdPo: but really more of an Ed Whine:

And why do we traditionally wait so long to cover some of these math topics anyway? Waldorf covers all 4 operations beginning in first grade with cute little gnomes and stories. I feel I need a math-over. 

BTW, she loves the algebra problems (missing numbers) problems in Saxon. LOVES THEM! Just thought I would share.

 

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6 minutes ago, Renai said:

Yeah, I get it.

Gymnast will be 9, and only now can I leave her at the part day school. If I'm a couple of minutes late picking her up, she's on the verge of tears (the first time she did cry). She may meltdown once she's in the car because she dislikes crying in front of other people.  Anywhere else, she refuses to go unless she knows I'll be with her. Not in the vicinity, but there. I'm in the Chinese classes with her most of the time, but will let her know if I need to go take a walk. If I'm too long, I'll catch her peeking around the corners looking for me.

It's actually a lot better than it used to be, though. I used to not be able to go to the bathroom without her looking for me...

When Scotsman was gone, I was less than 5 mins. late to pick Quiet Boy (14) up from Youth Night. He had his leader calling me to see where I was. None of mine will even go down the grocery isle without me. Renai, I can so understand and have experienced the same. People just do not understand. They think we are coddling our kids. How wrong.

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44 minutes ago, ThatBookwormMom said:

My bathrooms are still dirty. I took some baby wipes to the worst things. I kinda don't care anymore.

Dave did all the laundry and cooked all the meals today so I could lay around on the couch and watch movies with the kids. 🥰🥰🥰

Why didn't I teach my kids to clean the bathroom when I was smaller and had more energy? Oh, right, because I was teaching them to make basic breakfasts and lunches and how to do dishes and laundry. Okay, I stand by my choices.

My bathrooms are dirty, too. Your husband was Super Dave!

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Ok, I edited my math posts because I forgot the EdPo. Should I go post in the sea or do y'all think I will get eaten? After the Calvert fiasco, who knows where a simple maths thread might go.

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Just now, Jean in Newcastle said:

I got accused of coddling my kids and being too hands off with my kids- by the same people. 

One word: IDIOTS!

I'm not feeling nice. Perhaps I should refrain from making comments lest I offend.

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I know little about the different math programs, but I do know that Singapore does all the operations from the beginning in a gentle way, building more and more on the concepts each level as they're revisited. I've really liked using it. I also supplement with Beast Academy, because it appeals to Reader and has helped us overcome her fear of math. She's an entire level behind where I thought she'd be by now because math was paralyzing for her for some reason. Beast Academy has helped so much with that.

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30 minutes ago, Susan in TN said:

I make little bottles of vanilla.  And now I also make elderberry syrup.  That's it.  Once in a while we'll be getting low on vodka and I'll ask dh to pick some up and he'll get a giant bottle.  I have no other use for it.

White Russian.

24 minutes ago, Paradox5 said:

EDPO:

I need permission to have The Girl skip the Saxon problems she knows which is like most of it, at this point. But I'm worried if I do that she might miss something. I never knew Saxon was SO SLOW at introducing things. Oh. my. word. already! She is on lesson 60 and it just covered multiplying 1 number by 2! No fractions yet. WAAY too much adding and subtracting. Seriously, she and I are about to spit nails. She is NOT advanced but catches on fast. She probably could have been except for Bad Mommy changing programs so much and being too much of a rule follower to just skip things without worrying about it. 

Maybe grab a used BJU book and skip all the stuff she knows? I swear, any more "This is how we add." will make us both scream. It is rather insulting to her intelligence.

Maybe what I need is a list of topics usually covered in 4th/5th grade math and teach it myself. I like teaching math, and am rather good at it. Y'all have any ideas to save her and my sanity?

Meanwhile, the boys love it. Go figure.

I started in 5/4 because K-3 was just no.

18 minutes ago, Paradox5 said:

And why do we traditionally wait so long to cover some of these math topics anyway? Waldorf covers all 4 operations beginning in first grade with cute little gnomes and stories. I feel I need a math-over. 

BTW, she loves the algebra problems (missing numbers) problems in Saxon. LOVES THEM! Just thought I would share.

 

Yeah, we covered the 4 operations, fractions, square roots and all kinds of things really young. Mostly through play.

 

3 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said:

I got accused of coddling my kids and being too hands off with my kids- by the same people. 

Yep! And that my kids are advanced but will never thrive academically. Thanks?

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1 minute ago, Slache said:

Yeah, we covered the 4 operations, fractions, square roots and all kinds of things really young. Mostly through play.

Not REALLY young. Just like you're saying, in 1st probably.

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38 minutes ago, Paradox5 said:

EDPO:

I need permission to have The Girl skip the Saxon problems she knows which is like most of it, at this point. But I'm worried if I do that she might miss something. I never knew Saxon was SO SLOW at introducing things. Oh. my. word. already! She is on lesson 60 and it just covered multiplying 1 number by 2! No fractions yet. WAAY too much adding and subtracting. Seriously, she and I are about to spit nails. She is NOT advanced but catches on fast. She probably could have been except for Bad Mommy changing programs so much and being too much of a rule follower to just skip things without worrying about it. 

Maybe grab a used BJU book and skip all the stuff she knows? I swear, any more "This is how we add." will make us both scream. It is rather insulting to her intelligence.

Maybe what I need is a list of topics usually covered in 4th/5th grade math and teach it myself. I like teaching math, and am rather good at it. Y'all have any ideas to save her and my sanity?

Meanwhile, the boys love it. Go figure.

Haven't used Saxon but I habitually cross off half the problems in Math Mammoth.

So yeah skip.

Skip ahead until there is a lesson that teaches something she doesn't already know, then start crossing off unneeded practice problems.

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Always remember: curriculum is your servant not your master. It is a tool to use in the ways that work best for you.

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13 minutes ago, maize said:

Haven't used Saxon but I habitually cross off half the problems in Math Mammoth.

So yeah skip.

Skip ahead until there is a lesson that teaches something she doesn't already know, then start crossing off unneeded practice problems.

I'm doing that now with ds.  We're speeding through the book til we hit something new.

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1 hour ago, Paradox5 said:

EDPO:

I need permission to have The Girl skip the Saxon problems she knows which is like most of it, at this point. But I'm worried if I do that she might miss something. I never knew Saxon was SO SLOW at introducing things. Oh. my. word. already! She is on lesson 60 and it just covered multiplying 1 number by 2! No fractions yet. WAAY too much adding and subtracting. Seriously, she and I are about to spit nails. She is NOT advanced but catches on fast. She probably could have been except for Bad Mommy changing programs so much and being too much of a rule follower to just skip things without worrying about it. 

Maybe grab a used BJU book and skip all the stuff she knows? I swear, any more "This is how we add." will make us both scream. It is rather insulting to her intelligence.

Maybe what I need is a list of topics usually covered in 4th/5th grade math and teach it myself. I like teaching math, and am rather good at it. Y'all have any ideas to save her and my sanity?

Meanwhile, the boys love it. Go figure.

What level of Saxon?

We use 5/4 through Advanced Mathematics.  (The dc are currently in 5 different levels of Saxon).

I know Saxon is designed to do all.the.problems, but for sanity's sake (because I want to survive homeschooling), I will often assign just the practice problems of a lesson.  For instance, this week dd9 is doing 5/4 Lesson 87 (all), Lesson 88 (practice), Lesson 89 (all), and Lesson 90 (practice).

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34 minutes ago, ThatBookwormMom said:

I know little about the different math programs, but I do know that Singapore does all the operations from the beginning in a gentle way, building more and more on the concepts each level as they're revisited. I've really liked using it. I also supplement with Beast Academy, because it appeals to Reader and has helped us overcome her fear of math. She's an entire level behind where I thought she'd be by now because math was paralyzing for her for some reason. Beast Academy has helped so much with that.

I wish I could teach Singapore Maths. i have tried quite a few times. I just could not get it to make sense to me then. Now I feel like it is too late for her.

34 minutes ago, Slache said:

I started in 5/4 because K-3 was just no.

Yeah, we covered the 4 operations, fractions, square roots and all kinds of things really young. Mostly through play.

Agree with you there! It is a major reason I didn't start with it. 

15 minutes ago, maize said:

Always remember: curriculum is your servant not your master. It is a tool to use in the ways that work best for you.

I need this on a poster in my schoolroom.

8 minutes ago, Junie said:

What level of Saxon?

We use 5/4 through Advanced Mathematics.  (The dc are currently in 5 different levels of Saxon).

I know Saxon is designed to do all.the.problems, but sometimes for sanity's sake (because I want to survive homeschooling), I will often assign just the practice problems of a lesson.  For instance, this week dd9 is doing 5/4 Lesson 87 (all), Lesson 88 (practice), Lesson 90 (all), and Lesson 91 (practice).

She is doing 5/4 without tests and skipping the Warm-Ups. But she is 11!! I need to speed things up. 

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5 minutes ago, Paradox5 said:

She is doing 5/4 without tests and skipping the Warm-Ups. But she is 11!! I need to speed things up. 

Did you do the placement test? She might need a higher level.

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4 minutes ago, Paradox5 said:

I wish I could teach Singapore Maths. i have tried quite a few times. I just could not get it to make sense to me then. Now I feel like it is too late for her.

Agree with you there! It is a major reason I didn't start with it. 

I need this on a poster in my schoolroom.

She is doing 5/4 without tests and skipping the Warm-Ups. But she is 11!! I need to speed things up. 

We don't do the warm-ups either, and we don't test until around Algebra 1/2 or Algebra 1.

I would totally let her skip problems and maybe even whole lessons.  We school year round, so my kids don't need the review at the beginning of each book.  I usually sit down with them and ask them if they know how to do Lesson 1, Lesson 2, etc.  When we come to a lesson that they don't know how to do, I will assign the practice problems, then ask about the next lesson.

For your dd, I would absolutely just have her do practice problems if you suspect she already knows it, or even give her an oral assessment.  Such as, dd, what is the answer to problem c.  Problem d?  Problem k?  Ok, you got them all right.  Let's move on...

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50 minutes ago, Paradox5 said:

Ok, I edited my math posts because I forgot the EdPo. Should I go post in the sea or do y'all think I will get eaten? After the Calvert fiasco, who knows where a simple maths thread might go.

I wouldn't, it's scary out there.

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But I would definitely skip problems and move through things faster if they were already known or it's just too much practice.   I found with my daughter that 4th, 5th and 6th grade math basically were just the same things each year, just slightly harder problems (bigger numbers), then "pre-algebra" did it all over again.    My daughter actually does need that repetition, but my son was bored out of his mind.  

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28 minutes ago, Paradox5 said:

I wish I could teach Singapore Maths. i have tried quite a few times. I just could not get it to make sense to me then. Now I feel like it is too late for her.

Agree with you there! It is a major reason I didn't start with it. 

I need this on a poster in my schoolroom.

She is doing 5/4 without tests and skipping the Warm-Ups. But she is 11!! I need to speed things up. 

Can you just do the tests until she starts getting a certain percentage, like 75-80%? Then start at that chapter.

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I am exhausted. We had our Sunday School class over for dinner. It was good, but as Baby so aptly put it.... “They used me up.”

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