egao_gakari Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Slache said: What is AIJ? Adventures in Japanese. Late middle-high school level textbook. Pricey. 23 minutes ago, Slache said: For Japanese we are doing a modified version of Nihongoshark. They have you learn the Kana and about 3,000 Kanji before you tackle a grammar. I love the idea of the foundation in the writing system and didn't want to do a grammar now so it's perfect. Ideally, you do this at an insane pace finishing in less than a year so you don't lose interest. We aren't doing that. So on the side we have songs, phrases, TV shows, games and other such things to keep it fun. I feel like this way we are making true, notable progress, but in a way that's completely manageable for a small person. Huh, I had never heard of Nihongoshark! There are so many more resources out there than there used to be. 3,000 kanji is more than I know how to read/write! That's a lot! 1 hour ago, Slache said: Please continue listing Japanese programs. I've spoken to many online and it's one per week and sometimes one per class. One other program I know of is Obento, but I've never used it, so I can't vouch for it. There's another college-level textbook called Yookoso, too. And Minna no Nihongo. (These are all beginner-level.) 1 Genki chapter per week? Or per CLASS?! That's.... nuts. Like, I've taught Genki many times to many people, high school level and above, and I just can't picture that. Not unless these are students who are literally studying no other subjects, have no job, and spending hours and hours per day on homework and independent practice. The Introduction to Genki itself says that on average, six class hours are needed to cover the content of each Conversation/Grammar chapter and 3 hours for each writing chapter. Intensive intermediate Japanese in my freshman year of college (6 hours of classtime per week) spent at least 2 weeks on each chapter of Genki 2, and a bunch of students freaked out at the teacher and accused her of expecting too much. Like, they actually went to the Dean and demanded she be fired. (She wasn't.) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, myblessings4 said: If my kids wanted to learn medical terminology as a second language, I could teach it easily!!! My kids know Italian because I make them learn musical terms. So. Stinking. Practical. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egao_gakari Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Susan in TN said: My kids know Italian because I make them learn musical terms. So. Stinking. Practical. I know a fair bit of Latin from growing up in chorus! Practical is good 🙂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, egao_gakari said: Susan, in my perfect world we'd do it that way as well. But DH isn't an early enough riser to implement it on Dad School days, and that makes me into Mean Mom. He would have preferred getting them up at 8 and starting school at 9, and we compromised with 7:45/ 8:30. They don't usually need a whole hour. We would probably start a little later, but dh leaves for work at 7:30/45ish. The kids are a bit groggy first thing, but they get so much free time in the mornings and afternoons when they finish that they really don't complain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egao_gakari Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I think somehow I spiked my blood sugar when I broke the fast. Feeling very jittery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, egao_gakari said: I think somehow I spiked my blood sugar when I broke the fast. Feeling very jittery. Have some protein 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Susan in TN said: I must be an evil parent. We all eat breakfast together at 7am. Every morning except Saturday. School (and church) start at 8. DH gets up at 5:15 and leaves for work a little after 6:00. I’ve been getting upmaround 7:30. I never knew I needed 9 hours of sleep a night, but I guess I do. And I need to have some quiet time to do devotions and i’ve Been trying to do this exercise video and then showering and stuff.... I just let the kids sleep so I can have some peace. When they are awake they don’t Leave me alone. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egao_gakari Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said: Have some protein Yeah I cooked up some eggs and now I'm feeling better. Lunch had a fair bit of protein though, which is why it was weird feeling the spike! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Renai said: I'm either working and/or wishing I was still sleep at that hour. booyah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Our sleep/wake schedules have evolved over the years. I always try to keep it as consistent as possible and schedule enough hours for good healthy sleep. I don't always get enough hours of sleep but it isn't because I haven't planned for it - I often only get 5 or 6 hours when I have been in bed for more than 8. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, egao_gakari said: Adventures in Japanese. Late middle-high school level textbook. Pricey. Huh, I had never heard of Nihongoshark! There are so many more resources out there than there used to be. 3,000 kanji is more than I know how to read/write! That's a lot! One other program I know of is Obento, but I've never used it, so I can't vouch for it. There's another college-level textbook called Yookoso, too. And Minna no Nihongo. (These are all beginner-level.) 1 Genki chapter per week? Or per CLASS?! That's.... nuts. Like, I've taught Genki many times to many people, high school level and above, and I just can't picture that. Not unless these are students who are literally studying no other subjects, have no job, and spending hours and hours per day on homework and independent practice. The Introduction to Genki itself says that on average, six class hours are needed to cover the content of each Conversation/Grammar chapter and 3 hours for each writing chapter. Intensive intermediate Japanese in my freshman year of college (6 hours of classtime per week) spent at least 2 weeks on each chapter of Genki 2, and a bunch of students freaked out at the teacher and accused her of expecting too much. Like, they actually went to the Dean and demanded she be fired. (She wasn't.) Yeah, the people on the thread were talking about how insane it was and how they didn't learn anything, but they needed to pass the class in order to move on. I remember some talking about doing it themselves the summer before the class so the class was review. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just because people "teach" a language in a certain way doesn't mean that it is an effective way to teach/learn a language. (I have very strong feelings on the subject.) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The not-so-random lady never brought the gluten free brownies. Not that she had to, of course, but she said that she would be there and we waited an extra 40 minutes because she asked us to be there until noon. Oh well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Someone was walking around the neighborhood passing out menus for the "New" Chinese restaurant that we have been getting takeout from since we moved here 10 years ago. I think they have new management or something. I don't like it as much now, but dh doesn't have major reactions to their food, so we will probably stick with them. The menu includes a coupon that expired in 2017. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Juliet's new donkey. It quacks. Dd has already repaired it once and I noticed that it is getting disemboweled again. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I want to know all the languages. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said: Just because people "teach" a language in a certain way doesn't mean that it is an effective way to teach/learn a language. (I have very strong feelings on the subject.) You and me both! One of my colleagues (a French teacher) has written a book called "Pathways to Fluency: Changing the way we think about language in the United States" you may be interested in. I'm still working my way through the book now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Slache said: I want to know all the languages. Me too, darling. Me too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egao_gakari Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Slache said: Yeah, the people on the thread were talking about how insane it was and how they didn't learn anything, but they needed to pass the class in order to move on. I remember some talking about doing it themselves the summer before the class so the class was review. That makes more sense if it was review. Still though. Just reading the textbook isn't enough with a language course! (Is it enough for any subject??) 1 hour ago, Jean in Newcastle said: Just because people "teach" a language in a certain way doesn't mean that it is an effective way to teach/learn a language. (I have very strong feelings on the subject.) I do too. The most effective foreign language teachers I've ever had were the ones who taught 2 things: (1) independent study skills. (2) English grammar. I try to remember that in my teaching as well, although sometimes I know I marry myself to the textbook! 42 minutes ago, Renai said: You and me both! One of my colleagues (a French teacher) has written a book called "Pathways to Fluency: Changing the way we think about language in the United States" you may be interested in. I'm still working my way through the book now. Definitely curious to read that! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, egao_gakari said: That makes more sense if it was review. Still though. Just reading the textbook isn't enough with a language course! (Is it enough for any subject??) I do too. The most effective foreign language teachers I've ever had were the ones who taught 2 things: (1) independent study skills. (2) English grammar. I try to remember that in my teaching as well, although sometimes I know I marry myself to the textbook! Definitely curious to read that! The most effective foreign language teachers, in my opinion use all the senses to teach language. (This is why I like the Total Physical Response approach for young learners). For something like Japanese, I don't really correlate things to English grammar, but I do teach the grammar forms because I don't know how you would be able to use Japanese verbs otherwise. I taught a very successful class of adults where I used visual and auditory cues. They really liked it and they learned so well. Unfortunately I have run out of time to prep that way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Slache said: I want to know all the languages. I really have trouble learning to speak other languages. I can learn them academically and translate on papers, but actually communicating with someone? Nope!!!! That's why I do so well in Latin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I am not a morning person. Or an afternoon person. My peak hours are usually from about 7pm to 1am. Maybe I live in the wrong time zone. I am not very good at speaking any foreign languages. I know little bits of Spanish, French, and American Sign Language. I have no desire (currently) to add more languages, though I would really like to build on the ones I've started. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I ran into the last random lady who asked me to tutor. I had given up on her but she said that they are in the middle of moving and will then contact me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Jean knows a lot of random ladies. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Junie said: Jean knows a lot of random ladies. They stalk me 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, Junie said: I am not a morning person. Or an afternoon person. My peak hours are usually from about 7pm to 1am. Maybe I live in the wrong time zone. I am not very good at speaking any foreign languages. I know little bits of Spanish, French, and American Sign Language. I have no desire (currently) to add more languages, though I would really like to build on the ones I've started. I've let my Latin slide for a bit. I'd like to pick it up again, but I have waaaay too much going on right now. Perhaps this summer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said: They stalk me That's the price you pay for being a celebrity!!!!! Jeannie for President!!!!!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egao_gakari Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Weirdly, anytime I've ever tried to learn a language that wasn't Japanese or Latin, I've utterly failed. No other language seems sensible to me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, egao_gakari said: Weirdly, anytime I've ever tried to learn a language that wasn't Japanese or Latin, I've utterly failed. No other language seems sensible to me! Yeah, you should have heard us try to learn Portuguese when I was teaching in Sao Paulo, Brasil. A group of us teachers would go down to the little corner market and take one of our young students with us and we'd all stand in the corner of the market, huddled around little C (she lived in our building, her mom was also a teacher) and she'd teach us a phrase and we'd repeat it and repeat it and repeat it until we had it down and then go up to the proprietor and say the phrase, asking for bread or a juice drink or something. It was hilarious. I had no idea what I was saying. Basically, my Portuguese consisted of "Please", "Thank you", "Hello", "where is the bathroom?" and directions to my school in case I ever got lost in the city - they told us to just hail a cab, say, "Perto de Osec" (which mean "near Osec", which was a teaching hospital, but they told us that the hospital was so bad that even if you were dying you should never go there, but rather fight traffic and go to the hospital across town) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, KrissiK said: I really have trouble learning to speak other languages. I can learn them academically and translate on papers, but actually communicating with someone? Nope!!!! That's why I do so well in Latin. Me too. 1 hour ago, Junie said: I am not very good at speaking any foreign languages. I know little bits of Spanish, French, and American Sign Language. I have no desire (currently) to add more languages, though I would really like to build on the ones I've started. I think the only way I will ever actually learn a language is to go live somewhere. I think I’d have a pretty good shot at German. 56 minutes ago, Junie said: Jean knows a lot of random ladies. And they bring her brownies and she tutors their kids! I think I’m way too introverted for that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Have you ever eaten at Oscar’s Tacos? Taco Tuesday Booyah! This is the thread that never ends, It just goes on and on my friends. People started posting not knowing what it was, And they will keep on posting here forever just because... This is the thread that never ends You'd best come join it with your friends 'Cuz it will replace Facebook as the latest web-based craze And everyone will post here instead for the rest of their days This is the thread that's always there They'll cheer you up so don't despair The group is growing well as more people start checking in And we'll keep sucking them in because our cheer is addictive This is the thread that never ends It's better than a Mercedes Benz It helps with coffee withdrawal and other troubles, too Eighteen hundred pages of friends all cheering for you This thread keeps going on and on with record-setting length and fun It started twenty-four months ago from curiosity and all the fun and frolic has shown this is the place to be This is the thread that never ends... And the place where one finds special friends, the kind that have hearts that are strong and true Yes, ITT ladies, I am talking to you! This is the thread that never ends... Edited March 27, 2019 by Susan in TN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 My mom (94) just told me that she's excited for Dd to finish high school next year so that I can do my own thing. I think that I will get back into teaching Japanese. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I am an extroverted introvert. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said: I am an extroverted introvert. You’ve got layers. Like an onion. Or a cake. Or the earth’s atmosphere. #ilikecake 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Lynn Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Susan in TN said: You’ve got layers. Like an onion. Or a cake. Or the earth’s atmosphere. #ilikecake #likeShrek 😜😂 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Jean in Newcastle said: The most effective foreign language teachers, in my opinion use all the senses to teach language. (This is why I like the Total Physical Response approach for young learners). Then you'll really like Elizabeth Porter (the author of Pathways to Fluency). She's even done a TED talk called Learning Language through the Five Senses. It's her thing. She has an online world languages school (she started out as just teaching French, but now started the school) with various languages, teaching in this manner. She asked me to teach Spanish for her, but I'm already on two platforms... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said: I am an extroverted introvert. SO AM I!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 hours ago, KrissiK said: I really have trouble learning to speak other languages. I can learn them academically and translate on papers, but actually communicating with someone? Nope!!!! That's why I do so well in Latin. I am the opposite. I assume different parts of the brain. 2 hours ago, egao_gakari said: Weirdly, anytime I've ever tried to learn a language that wasn't Japanese or Latin, I've utterly failed. No other language seems sensible to me! Maybe because you're not trying to fit it into a box? 1 hour ago, Susan in TN said: Have you ever eaten at Oscar’s Tacos? Taco Tuesday Booyah! This is the thread that never ends, It just goes on and on my friends. People started posting not knowing what it was, And they will keep on posting here forever just because... This is the thread that never ends You'd best come join it with your friends 'Cuz it will replace Facebook as the latest web-based craze And everyone will post here instead for the rest of their days This is the thread that's always there They'll cheer you up so don't despair The group is growing well as more people start checking in And we'll keep sucking them in because our cheer is addictive This is the thread that never ends It's better than a Mercedes Benz It helps with coffee withdrawal and other troubles, too Eighteen hundred pages of friends all cheering for you This thread keeps going on and on with record-setting length and fun It started twenty-four months ago from curiosity and all the fun and frolic has shown this is the place to be This is the thread that never ends... And the place where one finds special friends, the kind that have hearts that are strong and true Yes, ITT ladies, I am talking to you! This is the thread that never ends... This is big. 1 hour ago, Jean in Newcastle said: My mom (94) just told me that she's excited for Dd to finish high school next year so that I can do my own thing. I think that I will get back into teaching Japanese. I don't know what I want to do. I think move to the beach, teach the illiterate to read and hold babies. Those are my 3 passions. 5 minutes ago, myblessings4 said: We have babies! SQUEAK! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I just finished watching "My Fair Lady" with dd16 and dd14. None of us like the ending. We were discussing whether the play/movie has one scene too few or one scene too many. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jean in Newcastle said: I am an extroverted introvert. I am an introverted extrovert. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Cute Piggies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I don't know why it came out so big. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I am an introverted introvert. I don’t like people at all. Except for you people because I can still be introverted around y’all. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Does anyone want to do my dishes? I have chocolate chips!! Oh, and fresh baked banana bread with chocolate chips in it. It’s really good. Anyone?? Anyone? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 We are almost at 3400 pages. Whoever gets that Booya/h gets a squillion points. And some banana bread. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I made a lot of banana bread. I had a lot of ripe bananas. I found a bunch of bananas in the back of the Sienna. They were getting rather ripe. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I am also an introverted introvert. But I would absolutely barge right into Krissi's house for chocolate chip banana bread. (I'll text you first so you can hide in the closet until I'm gone.) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, myblessings4 said: I did half my workout this morning before work. I like watching Reba if I have to be on the treadmill. I am watching Endevour when I'm on the glider thing. 2 minutes ago, myblessings4 said: I don't even know why I'm attempting to post pad. I don't even know how many are on each page! 50! But it's too bothersome to count. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Susan in TN said: I am watching Endevour when I'm on the glider thing. 50! But it's too bothersome to count. 24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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