Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Neato! I had no idea there was a traveling(?) exhibit. Or are they part of a permanent collection? It's traveling. This is the last week at our science center. I don't know where it goes next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 It is very interesting watching you go through this process. What makes you decide what to keep and what to ax?? Oh, that's a good question! 1) Anything that's of questionable value to the main plot is the first to go. Subplots have to integrate. 2) Any redundancy in character building--that's the next thing to look at. Those have value, but are they valuable enough to save? 3) Anywhere a good scene drags is a place to get the hatchet out. Entertainment value is really important. If something goes too long, it gets trimmed. 4) All adjectives and adverbs get scrutiny. Have I weaseled out of using a better verb by adverb padding? Have I been less specific with a noun and covered that up with adjectives? 5) Conjunctions. Would I be better off with two sentences? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I've been taking cranberry supplements, but apparently they aren't working. I'm going to try to get ahold of some pure cranberry juice. I've had it before and it's nasty, but maybe it would be more bio-available than the pills. (I like the word "bio-available") I have similar experience with the supplements. Just not effective for me. You can cut the cranberry with another juice and still get the benefit. You might want to drink a higher volume of mixed juice, but anything that helps you get it down is worth it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Good for you!! I try to donate when I can. It makes me feel good that I can do something to help. I tried to donate once. They took one look at my nonexistent veins, patted me on the back and said "thanks but no thanks ". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 😂😂 I also forgot that she doesn't consider coins "real" money. Only bills. ARGH! (outta likes again) This is cute, but frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Oh, that's a good question! 1) Anything that's of questionable value to the main plot is the first to go. Subplots have to integrate. 2) Any redundancy in character building--that's the next thing to look at. Those have value, but are they valuable enough to save? 3) Anywhere a good scene drags is a place to get the hatchet out. Entertainment value is really important. If something goes too long, it gets trimmed. 4) All adjectives and adverbs get scrutiny. Have I weaseled out of using a better verb by adverb padding? Have I been less specific with a noun and covered that up with adjectives? 5) Conjunctions. Would I be better off with two sentences? ARGH! These are also good pointers to follow for school reports and essays, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 ARGH! These are also good pointers to follow for school reports and essays, too. It's a lot harder to do than to say. The old advice of "kill your darlings" really applies. Everyone has their "pet" flaw in writing, and often that's a great place to go after extra wordage that is weighing down a manuscript. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I think that's why it's good to go at revision in stages. There's just a lot to do when revising a novel, and I find it easier to go at it with a specific goal in mind and then tackle it again after a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) I've set a goal of 35K worth of cuts over 5 weeks. That's 1K per day. I just cut 34K in three weeks, but the next round of cuts will be harder. ETA: The first round was a 17% cut, the second round is a 25% cut. Edited August 30, 2017 by Critterfixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Thank you, middle school speech therapist, for calling TWICE way too early in the day, waking me up (I mostly ignored the phone the first time, but, ya know, if someone calls twice back to back, it seems like it might be something urgent). Also, how can my just-turned-10yo be in middle school already??? I'm too young to have a middle schooler! :svengo: (yes, 5th grade is middle school here now, or rather, where we lived before (not sure about where we currently live)... so, no, there was no need for that speech therapist to call me) Walked to gym to have kids add their Pokémon to it, used leftover pasta to make pasta with Swedish meatballs for breakfast. Had coffee. Watched CNN 10 and TED ED with the kids, Celery did typing (how is the typing going, ikslo?), both kids did RS Dutch, and Celery did the second try of the final bridge for LOF Decimals & Percents. Way behind schedule (I'd hoped to finish Pre-Algebra 0 with Physics this summer), BUT, at least it looks like this book will be finished before the official start of the school year (i.e. before local schools start the school year). Not sure what I want to do... I'd wanted to finish Pre-Algebra 0, and then start the school year with AOPS Pre-Algebra, but now not sure if I want to do Pre-A 0 first, or if I want to do them concurrently, or what. (obviously, this is not a real problem... either way would likely work). I kind of feel like I'm leaving something off the list of things accomplished this morning, but w/e. Oh, and I am way behind on this thread. I suck at prioritizing. :) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I actually don't like heights. But I was so bored that I was willing to contemplate anything. Come teach my kid Japanese. I've been taking cranberry supplements, but apparently they aren't working. I'm going to try to get ahold of some pure cranberry juice. I've had it before and it's nasty, but maybe it would be more bio-available than the pills. (I like the word "bio-available") It should give you loose stool. Yay. And I disagree with AMJ about mixing juices being a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I have tried straight cranberry juice once. Once was enough. :ack2: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I tried to donate once. They took one look at my nonexistent veins, patted me on the back and said "thanks but no thanks ". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It takes me forever to eeek out a pint. They were timing me last time. If you don't make it in a certain time then they don't let you finish. I finished, but just in time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Come teach my kid Japanese. no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Good Morning! We're getting a lot accomplished here, despite the lack of sleep. I had a hard time sleeping last night (again), mostly because of my colorful bruises. I used to donate blood, but I stopped doing donation when I was diagnosed with RA. So much is unknown about autoimmune disease. I really don't want to be passing around unhealthy blood. I also tend toward anemia, so blood donation is not in my best interest, either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I have tried straight cranberry juice once. Once was enough. :ack2: Yes - so so tart. Add a bit of water and drink it super cold. Just 1/4 C at a time every hour or so is tolerable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Cancel eating out at 7 PM? That person needs to go fetch take-out, then. From the series of happy endings, at about 7:30 I was enough over my miffedness to go forage for food, and right as I started doing so, DW came out of the study with 2 boxes of pasta and 2 jars of pesto that she'd bought for eclipse camping trip (and hadn't used, because HOT), and she even washed the pot (which I'd already put to soak earlier), and made dinner. So, yay. Then, after dinner, I did laundry and went to the grocery store, where I spent a small fortune, but now we've replenished most of our supplies. She made way more pasta than we had pesto for, so we put the extra pasta in the fridge (hence the pasta and Swedish meatballs I made for breakfast this morning). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Dinner was really good tonight. http://damndelicious.net/2015/06/27/one-pan-honey-garlic-chicken-and-veggies/ Somehow I did not see this at our dining room table last night??? Not that DW would've been happy with it. Broccoli is banned in our house. I think it looks yummy though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Somehow I did not see this at our dining room table last night??? Not that DW would've been happy with it. Broccoli is banned in our house. I think it looks yummy though. She's banned your son? ;) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I found my bra and did all the things. Rain was coming so while we were at the farm, I had the kids collect the perfectly ripened but fallen cherry tomatoes. We are swimming in tomatoes now (pounds of them). Tomorrow will be saucing day! Dr Quackers is saucy today! Or sauced? Or saucy because sauced? Can John listen to the famous men series? How is his hearing? I'm pursuing a different track -- learning boating (already certified in first aid and CPR, though those should get renewed soon, too). I still need to finish the ham radio book I bought a couple of years ago... and my first aid/cpr expired in Dec, I think. I still want to do wilderness first aid, but that's expensive, etc (also, not super helpful in most disaster scenarios). BFF told me yesterday about the Waffle House Index. Not to be confused with the Big Mac Index: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index I'm going in to donate blood today. There is a severe shortage. Thank you (not that I'm remotely near the affected area, but as someone who can't donate, I really appreciate people who do). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I've been taking cranberry supplements, but apparently they aren't working. I'm going to try to get ahold of some pure cranberry juice. I've had it before and it's nasty, but maybe it would be more bio-available than the pills. (I like the word "bio-available") DW often drinks one glass of this in the evenings: juice of 1 lime, 1oz orange liqueur, 2oz tequila, fill rest of (6oz? 8oz? not sure of size) glass with cranberry juice. Personally, I need to add quite a bit of sugar to get that down (well, I *could* get it down without sugar, but...). I rarely drink it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lots of little ducklings Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I got breakfast in bed (girls made me a fried egg), then hopped in the van and got my free Birthday Coffee, and tonight will be a free Birthday Entree at a local restaurant. I am also getting oodles of free Birthday Crafts from all the ducklings. My favorite is a cardboard pipe cleaner package mini-laptop-computer that fits in my pocket. It plays songs. All I have to do is press the buttons and hum songs. Now, let the saucing commence! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I got breakfast in bed (girls made me a fried egg), then hopped in the van and got my free Birthday Coffee, and tonight will be a free Birthday Entree at a local restaurant. I am also getting oodles of free Birthday Crafts from all the ducklings. My favorite is a cardboard pipe cleaner package mini-laptop-computer that fits in my pocket. It plays songs. All I have to do is press the buttons and hum songs. Now, let the saucing commence! :party: Birthday presents! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Now, let the saucing commence! See recipe above for getting sauced. Might take more than one glass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Happy Birthday, Quackers!!! Breakfast in bed sounds great. Maybe I should grab my box of Cocoa Puffs!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Happy birthday Quackersh! . I hope that you have a ducky birthday! Edited August 30, 2017 by Jean in Newcastle 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I think that's why it's good to go at revision in stages. There's just a lot to do when revising a novel, and I find it easier to go at it with a specific goal in mind and then tackle it again after a rest. That also helps because you are looking at it multiple times with refreshed eyes. Sounds a lot like Flylady--break it down to manageable chunks, concentrate on one chunk at a time and ignore everything else, and take regular breaks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I've set a goal of 35K worth of cuts over 5 weeks. That's 1K per day. I just cut 34K in three weeks, but the next round of cuts will be harder. ETA: The first round was a 17% cut, the second round is a 25% cut. Sounds like the editing is where most of the actual crafting comes into play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I think that's why it's good to go at revision in stages. There's just a lot to do when revising a novel, and I find it easier to go at it with a specific goal in mind and then tackle it again after a rest.That makes sense. You really need to have a goal in mind what you want it to look like when it's done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Dr Quackers is saucy today! Or sauced? Or saucy because sauced? How is his hearing? I still need to finish the ham radio book I bought a couple of years ago... and my first aid/cpr expired in Dec, I think. I still want to do wilderness first aid, but that's expensive, etc (also, not super helpful in most disaster scenarios). Not to be confused with the Big Mac Index: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index Thank you (not that I'm remotely near the affected area, but as someone who can't donate, I really appreciate people who do). What is the ham radio book? :bigear: As for the wilderness first aid, when you accompany your sons on some excursion you will want to teach them these skills, so you must learn them first. Also if you learn them you are less likely to get into a situation requiring them than if you don't. The Big mac index sounds pretty reasonable! It certainly makes a dry subject a little less arid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 That also helps because you are looking at it multiple times with refreshed eyes. Sounds a lot like Flylady--break it down to manageable chunks, concentrate on one chunk at a time and ignore everything else, and take regular breaks. I'm new to the process. I may be doing it all wrong. But it's a place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I got breakfast in bed (girls made me a fried egg), then hopped in the van and got my free Birthday Coffee, and tonight will be a free Birthday Entree at a local restaurant. I am also getting oodles of free Birthday Crafts from all the ducklings. My favorite is a cardboard pipe cleaner package mini-laptop-computer that fits in my pocket. It plays songs. All I have to do is press the buttons and hum songs. Now, let the saucing commence! How wonderful! I like that mini computer. My DD has made me some birthday pies. (My birthday is tomorrow.) I am looking forward to eating them! (I will share with family.) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I'm new to the process. I may be doing it all wrong. But it's a place to start. It sounds completely sensible, so I'd say you are doing something right! Keep at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 It's all craft, really. First drafts are where the writer tells the story for the first time. Second drafts are where the story gets refined. Third drafts seem to be where the themes, the symbols and the mood poke out of the seams. Fourth drafts seem to be about deadheading the overgrowth. Fifth drafts? Not sure yet. I've found something interesting on every edit. No telling what I'll find this time in the digging. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 DH logged into work on his work laptop. There are things he can do remotely, so he feels the need to do them. He got a call from work saying they will be closed until the day after Labor Day. He told me he might run into work to see how the other buildings are (one was reported as having water in it, and it was possibly the most inconvenient one to suffer so). Before he could do so his boss called him directly to tell him not to try to come in at all because he will only be in the way. There are crews using the unaffected buildings and offices to put stuff from affected spaces. They need everyone to stay away. The flooded building had 14 inches of water inside. DH is now running about our house exterior and the yard, checking on the state of things. He found wasps nesting where they shouldn't be, so he dealt with that. He also noted that he will likely have to put off fixing our fence for a few months as people with actual downed fences will need all of the pickets and posts. Ours is standing, just aging. We are on good relations with our immediate neighbors, so if a section of fence does come down we will get it dealt with quickly. Both of our neighbors have dogs, but we don't. That, at least, puts TWO fences between the two collections of dogs. It also means our yard is less likely to have someone trying to wander through to have a look-see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 It's all craft, really. First drafts are where the writer tells the story for the first time. Second drafts are where the story gets refined. Third drafts seem to be where the themes, the symbols and the mood poke out of the seams. Fourth drafts seem to be about deadheading the overgrowth. Fifth drafts? Not sure yet. I've found something interesting on every edit. No telling what I'll find this time in the digging. Next publication: Critterfixer's Guide to the Development and Growth of a Novel. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Before he could do so his boss called him directly to tell him not to try to come in at all because he will only be in the way. There are crews using the unaffected buildings and offices to put stuff from affected spaces. They need everyone to stay . Your dh's boss seems to know him well. ;) booyah Edited August 30, 2017 by Jean in Newcastle 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Junie---I can't believe they wanted my blood, given the RA and methotrexate and all that, but apparently it's such a super critical shortage that they will take whatever they can get. Unfortunately, dd caught strep after my posting, and I just got home from the doctor and pharmacy with her. No donation today. Happy Birthday, Quackersh & happy pre-birthday, AMJ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 ((Prairie)) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Your dh's boss seems to know him well. ;) Yup! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Junie---I can't believe they wanted my blood, given the RA and methotrexate and all that, but apparently it's such a super critical shortage that they will take whatever they can get. Unfortunately, dd caught strep after my posting, and I just got home from the doctor and pharmacy with her. No donation today. Happy Birthday, Quackersh & happy pre-birthday, AMJ! I liked for the last bit. :grouphug: :grouphug: Get better soon, Prairie's DD! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Next publication: Critterfixer's Guide to the Development and Growth of a Novel. Oh, there's plenty of those around. They vary by writer as to what you should do. ETA: Worse than raising kids, really. And the same things pretty much apply. Realize that every novel is different, what works for one novel might not work for another, acknowledge that there are many "right" ways to raise a novel, and that you shouldn't be surprised when the novel you thought you were raising turns out to want a tattoo or decides to become an astronaut. Edited August 30, 2017 by Critterfixer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 What is the ham radio book? :bigear: As for the wilderness first aid, when you accompany your sons on some excursion you will want to teach them these skills, so you must learn them first. Also if you learn them you are less likely to get into a situation requiring them than if you don't. https://www.amazon.com/ARRL-Ham-Radio-License-Manual/dp/1625950136/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1504116753&sr=8-5&keywords=ham+radio I ordered that, er, Nov 29, 2014 (and read half of it, and the restarted it at some point, and anyway... not sure where it currently is, what with move). Keep in mind that it's current through June 30, 2018 (the exam questions in the book are the actual questions on the exams through then). After that, you should still be able to pass the exam using this book, but the questions on the exam will be different from the ones in the book (i.e. you won't be able to just memorize the answers; you'd actually have to understand the material... of course, some legislative and technological changes are possible, but almost certainly minor enough you'd still be able to pass). Same with the follow-up books for further exams, but the dates are different. I think it was actually either the Wilderness Advanced First Aid or Wilderness First Responder course I wanted to do... (I think WAFA? Not sure... either way, it'd involve a fair amount of money, time, and travel to place where they offer the course). Also on the list is life guard. Not sure any of those will ever happen. I think life guarding would be a good idea if you wanted to be a boat rescue person, since you might have to fish drowning people out of the water, preferably without them dragging you under and drowning you. Of course, it's not like everyone has to do all the things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Back in Fall 2014, when I was contemplating the WAFA or w/e course, Broccoli would've been almost 4/just turned 4, and Celery 7. It'd be so much easier for me to leave them home with DW for a week now than back then (as in, easier for DW to work from home at least part of the time, because it would be sucky for her to have to take the entire time off for that). Plus, when DW did her crazy bicycling trip in Dec, she told me that I could take off a week or so this year in exchange. So it might actually be a good idea. Not sure about our finances atm though, what with eclipse trip etc. We'll see. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Oh, there's plenty of those around. They vary by writer as to what you should do. ETA: Worse than raising kids, really. And the same things pretty much apply. Realize that every novel is different, what works for one novel might not work for another, acknowledge that there are many "right" ways to raise a novel, and that you shouldn't be surprised when the novel you thought you were raising turns out to want a tattoo or decides to become an astronaut. See? This is why YOU should write one of these! We can make it part of our curriculum and all of our kids will LOVE writing (or at least hearing/reading about it)! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 https://www.amazon.com/ARRL-Ham-Radio-License-Manual/dp/1625950136/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1504116753&sr=8-5&keywords=ham+radio I ordered that, er, Nov 29, 2014 (and read half of it, and the restarted it at some point, and anyway... not sure where it currently is, what with move). Keep in mind that it's current through June 30, 2018 (the exam questions in the book are the actual questions on the exams through then). After that, you should still be able to pass the exam using this book, but the questions on the exam will be different from the ones in the book (i.e. you won't be able to just memorize the answers; you'd actually have to understand the material... of course, some legislative and technological changes are possible, but almost certainly minor enough you'd still be able to pass). Same with the follow-up books for further exams, but the dates are different. I think it was actually either the Wilderness Advanced First Aid or Wilderness First Responder course I wanted to do... (I think WAFA? Not sure... either way, it'd involve a fair amount of money, time, and travel to place where they offer the course). Also on the list is life guard. Not sure any of those will ever happen. I think life guarding would be a good idea if you wanted to be a boat rescue person, since you might have to fish drowning people out of the water, preferably without them dragging you under and drowning you. Of course, it's not like everyone has to do all the things. Thanks for the book reference! As for the other stuff, we can still dream, can't we? And sometimes we find other ways of getting at least some of it to come about. All it takes is not forgetting the dream entirely, so we notice opportunities when they crop up. Maybe you can join the Boy Scouts! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Bribery is awesome. (Bailey comes running for her raisins. ) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Pizza crusts are in the oven. I could get the front room swept and mopped. I probably should. But do I wanna? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baileyhousehold Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Could resist the "Ignore this thread." So happy to see I was not the only one 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Maybe you can join the Boy Scouts! Maybe if they ever change their rules. They don't like our kind of people, to the extent that they don't even allow our kind of people to join (last time I checked, which was fairly recently). Could resist the "Ignore this thread." So happy to see I was not the only one Welcome! Oh, and I think I forgot to say, Happy Birthday Quackers! Edited August 30, 2017 by luuknam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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