fruitofthewomb Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I tested positive for flu yesterday & felt awful. But after 2nd dose of tamifluy fever went down & I felt better. I have had flu before & this flu was like super flu. So today I feel like I have regular flu. Anyway-I was ready to sing tamiflu's praises & hire a skywriter & all that. Then my stomach started to hurt. Well-that's a known side effect & is better than shivering & burning up (at the same time) while feeling like your head is being pulled apart from the inside. But now-I don't know how to describe it. I am tired. I am yawning. I don't feel like moving. But my brain will.not.shut.off And it's crazy thoughts. Not hallucinations-but just weird random thoughts. And it's like my brain is hyper while the rest of me still has flu. It's super weird. So I lay here trying to rest & then I have a compulsion to get my phone & see who won the 1980 Olympic gold medal in downhill skiing. Or wondering what the weather forecast might be. Or how much data is left on our plan for this month. Or how old I will be when my youngest is 26. But I really don't care about any of this. Really. I would like to go to sleep. But I can't. Still better than how I felt yesterday. And now I am wondering why I felt compelled to complain on the internet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie G Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I hope you feel better soon! I know the feeling you describe. It's not exactly like being on a caffeine rush, more like how my middle daughter was way back in the day when ventolin was prescribed as a liquid for her asthma. Her mind would race like crazy and she hopped from one topic to the next. It was an exhausting thing to witness. She wanted to sleep but she just couldn't shut off her brain. It was about 1989 so I didn't even have the internet to help me answer her constant questions. I hope the Tamiflu has you back up and feeling like yourself soon! And in the meantime, hope you can shut your brain down and get some rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisabet1 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Tamiflu is banned in some countries and does not really reduce the symptoms. You are better off with things like tylenol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitofthewomb Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Tamiflu is banned in some countries and does not really reduce the symptoms. You are better off with things like tylenol. Oh I have to disagree! The relief from the worst symptoms came very quickly! I am actually a very crunchy, herbal loving type who avoids meds so I understand your concerns. But in my case-it helped tremendously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luanne Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Even the ads for Tamiflu only say that it will make you feel better 1.3 days sooner than you would if you didn't take it. I don't see how that is very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulycrabby Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It helped DS20 who was getting very sick, very quickly, when he got pH1N1 before the vaccine came out, but I agree that the side effects are significant and the med isn't needed in most cases. I am glad you are feeling a bit better! :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Tamiflu is banned in some countries and does not really reduce the symptoms. You are better off with things like tylenol. That has not been our experience at all. Tamiflu helped tremendously. As with any medication, there can be side effects, so it's obviously not for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitofthewomb Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Well-it's been 3 days since I started it & I think I am still glad I took it. I was extremely sick on Thursday-worse than I have ever been & I have had flu before. Friday & Saturday were like regular flu. Today is just lethargic & kinda blah. So I do think it lessened the effects of the flu. However-the stomach issues have been no fun. And it has caused insomnia. Which is also no fun. I think if I didn't have small children & if DH were more helpful then I wouldn't have taken it. I also want to add-if you aren't the one sick it's easy to say 'I wouldn't do that' Ask me how I know haha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I was adamantly against Tamiflu until I got Influenza A this year and ended up in the hospital. I didn't want to take it when I initially got sick but I went downhill really quick and Tamiflu along with other care in the hospital really helped. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Χά�ων Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Did you take dayquil by chance? My son did well with Tamiflu but dayquil had him bouncing off the walls. It was the mildest illness he has ever and I credit Tamiflu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsheresomewhere Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 If you haven't already- you may want to add a probiotic to your diet. Hope you feel better soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageRebel Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 When I got H1N1 and pneumonia last year they were giving it to me in the hospital. It caused some weird reactions but I was in a coma for most of them, only remember waking momentary for them dealing with my all over body rash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom31257 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have a very tragic situation in my family and I've wondered if Tamiflu was part of the problem. My b-i-l committed suicide New Year's Eve, and he had been taking it because their son got the flu. He had dealt with depression, anxiety, and OCD for many years and was on medication for those. I can't help but wonder if some drug interaction made it more likely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahB82 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have a very tragic situation in my family and I've wondered if Tamiflu was part of the problem. My b-i-l committed suicide New Year's Eve, and he had been taking it because their son got the flu. He had dealt with depression, anxiety, and OCD for many years and was on medication for those. I can't help but wonder if some drug interaction made it more likely to happen.I am so sorry. I wouldn't doubt it contributed. My friend's young daughter had serious issues with delusions and hallucinations after taking it last year. Their ped told her it wasn't uncommon and that it would go away and it did. It was hard though because you had no idea when it would stop. I imagine for a person who already struggled so much it may have been too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The first time I took Tamiflu was at the end of the two day window and it did nothing. The second time, only two years later, I took it within 12 hours and it made a huge difference. I'm a believer after that time and taking it so soon considering the hell I went through the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have a very tragic situation in my family and I've wondered if Tamiflu was part of the problem. My b-i-l committed suicide New Year's Eve, and he had been taking it because their son got the flu. He had dealt with depression, anxiety, and OCD for many years and was on medication for those. I can't help but wonder if some drug interaction made it more likely to happen. I'm so sorry to hear about your BIL. :crying: I would wonder about a possible drug interaction, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trish Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have a very tragic situation in my family and I've wondered if Tamiflu was part of the problem. My b-i-l committed suicide New Year's Eve, and he had been taking it because their son got the flu. He had dealt with depression, anxiety, and OCD for many years and was on medication for those. I can't help but wonder if some drug interaction made it more likely to happen. I believe that is one of the FDA warnings. I'm so sorry this happened to your family! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitofthewomb Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 If you haven't already- you may want to add a probiotic to your diet. Hope you feel better soon. I have been taking a probiotic but haven't remembered to take any supplements while sick. Feeling better today so I need to get back in the routine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitofthewomb Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Did you take dayquil by chance? My son did well with Tamiflu but dayquil had him bouncing off the walls. It was the mildest illness he has ever and I credit Tamiflu. No but I did take a dose of mucinex d. I now think that was cause of my brain going wild. But the insomnia has continued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: Was someone able to report or follow up on this. I'm so sorry for your loss. I have a very tragic situation in my family and I've wondered if Tamiflu was part of the problem. My b-i-l committed suicide New Year's Eve, and he had been taking it because their son got the flu. He had dealt with depression, anxiety, and OCD for many years and was on medication for those. I can't help but wonder if some drug interaction made it more likely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitofthewomb Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have a very tragic situation in my family and I've wondered if Tamiflu was part of the problem. My b-i-l committed suicide New Year's Eve, and he had been taking it because their son got the flu. He had dealt with depression, anxiety, and OCD for many years and was on medication for those. I can't help but wonder if some drug interaction made it more likely to happen. I had typed a long response but it disappeared... I am very sorry for your loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom31257 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: Was someone able to report or follow up on this. I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you. It has really been beyond tragic. They have a special needs child who is 24 hour care, so now she faces caring for him alone. She has family, friends, and church support, but it's still not the same. My sister has so much to take care of, but she did mention that the company might should know. He wasn't on it that day but had taken it earlier in the week. He must have started the journal found in his truck while he was on the medication. She had me and our other sister read it with her, and there was an obsession with a Christmas Carol movie they had watched while he was taking it. He had been dealing with his illness for many years, so it could have happened either way. We'll probably never really know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wapiti Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have a very tragic situation in my family and I've wondered if Tamiflu was part of the problem. My b-i-l committed suicide New Year's Eve, and he had been taking it because their son got the flu. He had dealt with depression, anxiety, and OCD for many years and was on medication for those. I can't help but wonder if some drug interaction made it more likely to happen. So sorry. There are connections between an abnormally-functioning immune system and neuropsychiatric symptoms. It would not be surprising if Tamiflu (or maybe even the flu exposure itself) threw a wrench into the works, perhaps over-activating the other meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 wapiti, I didn't really want to like your post, but so many people are negatively affected by drug interactions. Mom31257... :grouphug: I wonder if there is a way for someone (other than your poor sister) to report the experience to somewhere. (Pharmacy, doctor, or even the company web site if they have one.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom31257 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I am at my sister's this week helping her because she is having a difficult time. She was able to start going through some of her dh's things at their home and at his office. Everything indicates he planned to back to work after his 2 weeks off at Christmas, lists of things to do, 2015 calendar already put up in the office, things he left there and brought home. She is convinced more and more that Tamiflu played a major role in this. While he was mentally ill with the other diseases and had those thoughts in the past, she believes the medicine pushed him over an edge that allowed him to follow through with it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Kate Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I have a very tragic situation in my family and I've wondered if Tamiflu was part of the problem. My b-i-l committed suicide New Year's Eve, and he had been taking it because their son got the flu. He had dealt with depression, anxiety, and OCD for many years and was on medication for those. I can't help but wonder if some drug interaction made it more likely to happen. I'm so sorry. :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLMom Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'm so sorry. :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: I am sorry as well. How sad. The flu is going around where I live. My kids school (grade school) closed school today and tomorrow because they have over 33% of the teachers gone and over 20% of the students gone with confirmed cases of the flu. Mine don't have it, and I am hoping it stays that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spryte Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I am at my sister's this week helping her because she is having a difficult time. She was able to start going through some of her dh's things at their home and at his office. Everything indicates he planned to back to work after his 2 weeks off at Christmas, lists of things to do, 2015 calendar already put up in the office, things he left there and brought home. She is convinced more and more that Tamiflu played a major role in this. While he was mentally ill with the other diseases and had those thoughts in the past, she believes the medicine pushed him over an edge that allowed him to follow through with it all. Absolutely heartbroken for your sister, and for all of you. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: I am at my sister's this week helping her because she is having a difficult time. She was able to start going through some of her dh's things at their home and at his office. Everything indicates he planned to back to work after his 2 weeks off at Christmas, lists of things to do, 2015 calendar already put up in the office, things he left there and brought home. She is convinced more and more that Tamiflu played a major role in this. While he was mentally ill with the other diseases and had those thoughts in the past, she believes the medicine pushed him over an edge that allowed him to follow through with it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I am at my sister's this week helping her because she is having a difficult time. She was able to start going through some of her dh's things at their home and at his office. Everything indicates he planned to back to work after his 2 weeks off at Christmas, lists of things to do, 2015 calendar already put up in the office, things he left there and brought home. She is convinced more and more that Tamiflu played a major role in this. While he was mentally ill with the other diseases and had those thoughts in the past, she believes the medicine pushed him over an edge that allowed him to follow through with it all. I think if your sister believes the Tamiflu played a major role in the suicide, it probably did. Your sister knew her dh better than anyone else did, so I would absolutely take her word for it. I hope she isn't feeling guilty about him taking the Tamiflu, though -- even though no one would ever think she should have stopped him from taking it, I can imagine being in her shoes and second-guessing every last little thing and wondering if I could have done something differently to prevent what happened. Please make sure she isn't blaming herself, because it sounds like she was a wonderful and supportive wife who helped her dh for a long time. I feel so sad for her. :( Edited to add: Have there been any legal cases against the manufacturer of Tamiflu for similar reactions? I am usually the last one to tell someone to file a lawsuit, but in this situation, not only could your sister use a financial settlement, but it could also end up helping other families avoid this kind of awful tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom31257 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think if your sister believes the Tamiflu played a major role in the suicide, it probably did. Your sister knew her dh better than anyone else did, so I would absolutely take her word for it. I hope she isn't feeling guilty about him taking the Tamiflu, though -- even though no one would ever think she should have stopped him from taking it, I can imagine being in her shoes and second-guessing every last little thing and wondering if I could have done something differently to prevent what happened. Please make sure she isn't blaming herself, because it sounds like she was a wonderful and supportive wife who helped her dh for a long time. I feel so sad for her. :( Edited to add: Have there been any legal cases against the manufacturer of Tamiflu for similar reactions? I am usually the last one to tell someone to file a lawsuit, but in this situation, not only could your sister use a financial settlement, but it could also end up helping other families avoid this kind of awful tragedy. Thank you all for your kind words! She is not blaming herself as of now. She does not want to pursue any kind of lawsuit because she doesn't want to have to keep dragging it all up or have his mental health on a chopping block, so to speak. She also doesn't want her pediatrician to know because she is the one who prescribed it for them. This lady was our pediatrician when we were growing up and has seen my nephew his whole life. Her special needs son's illness is the result of a documented vaccine injury so he has some help financially. Her husband also left my sister in good shape as far as life insurance, savings, no debt, etc. Of course, she'd rather live in a shack and be bankrupt and have him back. I told her that I might try to find some type of online forums where people can post their personal experiences with medications. She honestly figures even telling the company it would just get buried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Question - how much is Tamiflu in your area/insurance? My doctor wanted me to have some on hand, even though I did get a flu shot, since I now have asthma. The co-pay was $100. I left it at the pharmacy! I did see a coupon on-line...for a mere $10 off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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