Wheres Toto Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Was it this thread or the other thread that linked the article about the status of same sex marriage? I'm having trouble keeping track. :huh: Anyway, I didn't realize so many states now allowed same sex marriage. That's really cool. :hurray: I was shopping with dd the other day and she needed a wedding card. She was very impressed to see that Target sells cards explicitly for same sex weddings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoobie Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I think I'm circling back around here, but I think this thread was the one in which my 1st Amendment question was never answered. Rather than try to go back and find it, I'll ask again. I have a very tenuous understanding of the intricacies of the amendments, but I do understand the basics. So, how does the freedom of religion aspect apply to the cake and baker situation? The way that I understand things, the 1st Amendment protects our right to claim whatever religion we'd like and to practice said religion without fear of reprisals from the government. So, if that's right, it doesn't apply to the baker. He IS allowed to practice his religion and to hold his beliefs. Requiring that he bake the cake might go against his religious beliefs, but I don't see how it threatens his right to believe what he wants or to practice his religion. Baking the cake isn't stopping him from being able to go to church or being able to be Christian. Can somebody please explain? It doesn't. It's fear mongering. THEY are coming to take your God and your guns. It's also a convenient excuse when someone doesn't want to follow a law or thinks something or someone else is icky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaqui Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Anyway, I didn't realize so many states now allowed same sex marriage. That's really cool. :hurray: Oh, yes. Hold on, XKCD has a few comics on the subject. http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1431:_Marriage Or maybe just one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 No, the shameless hussy is living in sin to boot! And she stole my cow. Really, where are those matches?! Wait, if we burn her at the stake, some one will come for me. Though I'd rather burn with Sadie than eat filet mignon with some people. Goodey Sadie laid a hex on my tomato plants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineDiary Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 When only one point of view is allowed, when no one may dissent without risking his livelihood and his good name, you are already living in a totalitarian regime, twin sister to theocracy. Guess who always gets the short end of the stick in a totalitarian regime? "Freedom of speech" does not now mean, and never has meant, "freedom from criticism." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam in CT Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Here's one way to deal with hate speech: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.631539 This is an interesting approach... particularly, the recommended shared Shabbos meal... I would certainly imagine there would be a good bit of anxiety and distrust initially, on both sides... but developing actual relationships across the lines of Other is surely the best way to see one another's faces and humanity... ... yet I can also see that feeling compelled to do so has the potential to backfire... though consequences for law-breaking are always compelled, so there's that as well... thanks for sharing -- much to mull over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 You can't burn her at the stake. Her daughter is a weather witch and will make the firewood soggy. But does she weigh the same as a duck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFaerie Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 But does she weigh the same as a duck? :lol: :lol: :lol: :hurray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Goodey Sadie laid a hex on my tomato plants! Let's throw her in the ocean! If she sinks, she is not a witch and did not lay a hex on your tomato plants. If she floats, she is guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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