FlockOfSillies Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 My 11th grader is being tutored in geometry and should be done by the end of this semester. Her tutor is suggesting we have dd take Algebra II at the community college in the spring so that she'll be ready for the SAT. I'm concerned that a traditional college-speed course may drown her and her GPA. We have the option of taking Algebra II at the traditional high-school speed through the CC. The downside to that is having summer break between the two semesters, and she still might not be ready for the SAT in the fall of senior year. What says the hive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If she is not a strong math student, I would have her continue with the tutor if at all possible. BTW, the SAT doesn't require much in the way of Algebra II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlockOfSillies Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 That was my plan, and I have a couple of books to choose from. I don't think the tutor wants to continue. I get the feeling she wants my dd to be moving faster to be finished with Algebra II by the end of this school year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 How did she do on the CC's placement test? Would the tutor be open to doing review once a week through the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlockOfSillies Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 She hasn't taken the placement test yet. I was planning to give her the sample test from the CC website. The tutor did geometry with her all summer, so it's possible she'd be willing to do it again if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 She cold audit the community college class and not have a grade recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlockOfSillies Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 She cold audit the community college class and not have a grade recorded. OK, but how does that work on a transcript? Do I assign a mommy grade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 No, you don't assign a grade; there isn't a grade. You register for the class under "Audit" and "Audit" appears on the transcript to acknowledge the work done, but to also indicate no tests were taken (at the college where I work, students who audit a class are not allowed to take the tests/quizzes). OK, but how does that work on a transcript? Do I assign a mommy grade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlockOfSillies Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Well, yeah, that's why I'm asking. How do I figure an audited class into her GPA? I don't see how I can give her credit for just auditing a class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teachin'Mine Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If she's permitted, as a dual enrolled student, to take remedial math classes, I'd have her take the CC placement test now, and then take the class she places into in the spring, the next one in the summer, and the next in the fall. IMO that would likely give her the best opportunity to "catch up" and hopefully do well on the SAT/ACT in the early and late fall. If she's enrolled at the CC, she should be able to get free tutoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I think the question is that the CC offers intermediate algebra as either a two-semester sequence or a one-semester course. I would ask the CC as well if there is a procedure by which students who are doing poorly in the one-semester sequence can transfer to the two-semester sequence a little later than normal. Sometimes this is allowed and sometimes not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom22ns Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Our CC won't let high school students (homeschool or otherwise) take remedial classes. They want them to finish the high school classes in the high school setting before beginning CC classes. They are allowed to begin with College Algebra. Before you get too far along in your decision making path, I'd contact the CC. See what is allowed and have her take a placement test. There is no point in making plans until you really know your options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I don't think you would be able to figure the grade, because there isn't a grade with tests. I suppose you could administer the tests yourself and grade on that criteria, though. Well, yeah, that's why I'm asking. How do I figure an audited class into her GPA? I don't see how I can give her credit for just auditing a class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teachin'Mine Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 She hasn't taken the placement test yet. I was planning to give her the sample test from the CC website. The tutor did geometry with her all summer, so it's possible she'd be willing to do it again if necessary. This is why I'm suggesting that your daughter take the placement test now. At the same time, you can speak with someone regarding dual enrollment and find out if an Intermediate Algebra course would even be an option for her as courses before College Algebra are usually considered remedial, and not available to dual enrolled students. But your CC may allow this and the only way to know is to ask. After she takes the placement test, then you can discuss her results with an advisor and someone in the math department to help your daughter decide which course would be the best for her. As she is currently working on geometry, her algebra placement isn't likely to change much in the next couple of months. Momtp2Ns I missed your post. I could have just agreed with your suggestion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlockOfSillies Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 I checked with the CC and they will allow DE students to take remedial classes if that is where the placement test puts them. Then they just work their way up to the regular college-level math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom22ns Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 :thumbup: It is nice that you have that option. So did you schedule a placement test? That sounds like your next step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jann in TX Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Most average high schoolers do best with Algebra 2 over 2 semesters. The one-semester class can be brutal-- think 2-3 hours of math homework PER DAY... it can be a LOT to process. Also the one semester course instructor will just skim through the lesson in class-- the students will most likely do much of the actual 'learning' in the math lab. Very few CC math instructors will tutor students during their office hours-- that is what the school math lab is for! When taking a CC math class I always recommend that students plan their class times so that they can at least begin their homework in the actual math lab where a tutor will be on hand to answer their questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlockOfSillies Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Jann, that was my precise concern about Algebra 2 at the CC. I may not be able to schedule a placement test until I have her apply. In the meantime, I'll see about getting some sample tests from the CC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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