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My frustration is that - it seems - they're being particularly harsh. Threatening an educator/educator's forum with penalties and legal action when 1) it wasn't even her posting the pics and 2) obviously no one here is out to make a buck off said picture, seems over the top (hence the "panties in a twist" remark).

 

Now, we don't know what specifically happened (yet) but the tone of the event isn't nice. It doesn't seem like they're saying, "hey SWB, you have this forum, and they're posting copywrited/trademarked images that they shouldn't. Here's why (insert legalese here). Please stop and ask them to stop." Maybe I'm being a little Pollyanna about it, but jumping to the threat of legal action in this particular situation seems extreme to me. It's also possible that I'm misunderstanding the tone of things (silly black/white words on a screen don't have a "tone"), and the bully-ish-ness behavior of the offended isn't there and they actually are being nice about it. If that's the case, I retract my "panties in a twist" statement from earlier.

You're not misunderstanding. They're not being nice. No retraction needed.

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You're not misunderstanding. They're not being nice. No retraction needed.

 

I probably shouldn't print my thoughts about them right now, esp since no income was being made off any of the pics on here.  :cursing:

 

IMO, they should have been flattered to know they were getting the publicity from so many. It should have been an ego boost!

 

I'll admit to having less respect for those related to the images right now (overall) and look forward to knowing who should be the target of that less respect rather than "in general" when you can share more info.

 

 

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You're not misunderstanding. They're not being nice. No retraction needed.

 

:-(  I'm sorry we've caused you this trouble.  Put up that donation jar if you need to.  Make sure it accepts foreign currency. 

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I forgot, I also quote Geraldine Rodgers both here and on my web site. But, since her book is 1,000+ pages long, the length that you can quote before becoming problematic is quite high.

 

Also, she has given me permission to quote as much and as often as I want from her book in my website and on this forum. She thinks homeschooling, and especially classical homeschooling, is great!!

 

She is in her upper 80s now, so I email her only once or twice a year, but when she was in her early 80s I corresponded extensively with her and she had a lot of energy and extensive knowledge about phonics, spelling, and the history of reading instruction.

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Thanks! I'm guessing I just need to let the cache update on my iPad then. I'm too lazy to clear it and re-enter all my passwords, haha! The coastal pic is the right one!

I see a forget me not flower.

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YES.

 

Exactly in all details, including law firm and amount.

 

SWB

Susan, do you have an archived version of the forum from before people started removing images? It may make a difference if the images in question were hotlinked rather than uploaded to the site, but I expect you would need proof.

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I've heard that courts are starting to catch on to this sort of copyright trolling so their money digging activities will hopefully be stopped soon.  Totally ridiculous. 

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YES.

 

Exactly in all details, including law firm and amount.

 

SWB

 

:ohmy:   :svengo:

 

ETA: I see my avatar got taken down.  I'll try to upload a photo that I take with my own camera.

 

ETA again: I just took a picture of my own JB with my own camera for my avatar.  Not that this is even important....compared to what poor Susan is going through. 

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YES.

 

Exactly in all details, including law firm and amount.

 

SWB

 

I used to think it took all types to make the world go around.  As I get older I'm thinking the world would be better off without certain types.

 

If needed - definitely toss out that donation jar - and if any names can be named at that point, by all means name them.

 

:grouphug:

 

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YES.

 

Exactly in all details, including law firm and amount.

 

SWB

:grouphug:

 

Susan, I really hope this gets settled quickly and in your favor.

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YES.

 

Exactly in all details, including law firm and amount.

 

SWB

 

Wow! How ridiculous. No one is going to feel much sympathy for amazon, but it would be nice if we could get an article written about how it is also affecting a bunch of homeschoolers. 

 

I hope it gets thrown out as the greedy, money making scheme that it is.

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Wow, what...well, that just bites. 

 

The offender named in the article is worth a google, don't want to link anything just in case. 

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YES.

 

Exactly in all details, including law firm and amount.

 

SWB

 

Oh wow.

 

:grouphug:

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I like the term "opportunistic shakedown ventures" to describe this activity

https://gigaom.com/2012/09/19/copyright-trolls-2-0-image-sites-embrace-righthaven-tactics/

Great article, stripe.  I particularly agree with this part:

 

This mess shows we need a legal system that can distinguish between the two types of infringers — the careless and the criminal. If we instead allow the odious methods used by the trolls to gain traction, more innocent people and businesses will be damaged for no good reason and the overall internet economy will suffer.

 

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Today, my avatar was removed, I assume by moderating staff.  But it is "clean".  I took it with my own phone of my own feet, as it now states in my siggie.  When putting my avatar back, somehow my siggie was erased, and I did not have time to put it all back.  I might just leave it as is.  :D

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I went to Settings and then Manage My Attachments. At that point you have the option to delete them. I had only 4, but some were old.

This is what finally worked for me.  I found some Ryan Gosling, a Kilt and a nun, :lol:  but no Johnny Depp?!?  Does that mean they're gone already or do I still need to do a search?  Did some of the pics disappear with the last forum switch over?

 

So sorry this has turned into an  issue Susan.

Blessings!

Dorinda

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Hi,

 

I wasn't sure if my avatar was from public domain, so I changed it.  I took a photo of my son's published book for NaNoWriMo.  He painted this picture for his cover of the book. 

 

I did not post pictures other than my avatar.

 

So sorry Susan you have to go through this.  I hope it gets worked out quickly.

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This is just so odd to me. Ok, so I love the website jezebel and they have threads that are meant for people to post pics and gifs and other stuff. It doesn't seem to be a problem. How do they manage it?

 

Right now they have an open thread about fashion and people are posting pic from all kinds of movies and famous people wearing fancy gowns etc.

 

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This is what finally worked for me. I found some Ryan Gosling, a Kilt and a nun, :lol: but no Johnny Depp?!? Does that mean they're gone already or do I still need to do a search? Did some of the pics disappear with the last forum switch over?

 

So sorry this has turned into an issue Susan.

Blessings!

Dorinda

Entire threads, like the Johnny Depp birthday thread, were deleted, so if you can't find a pic you posted, it's likely already removed.

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Entire threads, like the Johnny Depp birthday thread, were deleted, so if you can't find a pic you posted, it's likely already removed.

How funny that you knew exactly what I was talking about.  Good memories, good times. :)

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This is just so odd to me. Ok, so I love the website jezebel and they have threads that are meant for people to post pics and gifs and other stuff. It doesn't seem to be a problem. How do they manage it?

 

Right now they have an open thread about fashion and people are posting pic from all kinds of movies and famous people wearing fancy gowns etc.

 

See my posts earlier in this thread for an explanation. :)

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OK. so I went to google and searched "celebrities a-z" the very first link has a list of them by picture and name, etc. also it has the capability to search by name. So I clicked the "a"

 

many people I dind't know existed are there. so I put their name on our search box and try to find them.

 

while scrolling to the thread that has that specific, likely written mentioned, topic I found a BOOK COVER, is that something we ought to report???

 

If so, there is no button on the post to 'report'

 

here is the link to the whole post, number 34 has the picture of the book. If the lady/gent reading this is owner of the thread, please don't be angry at me, I am just asking if that is something I should look....

 

http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/525351-book-a-week-in-2014-bw34/?hl=%2Blanger&do=findComment&comment=5866214

 

sorry for all this, I can't sleep, so here I am

 

 

k

My avatar is my cake.

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Book covers seem to be OK. You couldn't argue that you're depriving the publisher of a licensing fee by posting it--in fact, you're advertising the book for the publisher, so it's a positive good.

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My avatar needs to be removed, I believe. It was taken from a google search, at the time I thought it was public domain but I don't want to take a chance. I'm at the hospital without access to a computer...can a mod please remove it for me if needed? Thank you!!

 

SWB- I am so sorry you are dealing with this. This board is a dream for me and others. Delete as many threads as needed and we will rebuild!

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Hi There,

 

So I just saw this.... This would be like thousands of posts of mine, potentially... depending on what it means exactly. For some reason I'm not able to post in the Sale Ads yet... anyway (so no credit  for posts :))  Would you just want to have all my posts taken off? I would be fine with that... how possible would that be? I know that when I was part of CC I posted a ton from there...etc....

 

 

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I have been a bit busy lately and not on the forum in a while.  It seems that a lot has been going on.  I did as requested and removed anything questionable, including the avatar.

 

 

Unfortunately, there are some very vile and slimy people out there who will do whatever it takes to extort money.  If this is what has latched its fangs into this informational, educational, motivational forum, then I am very sorry.

 

Susan, just know that there are a lot of people on this forum who attribute a huge part of their ability to forge over the hurdles of homeschooling to you.  I am one of them.

 

Please remember that you are not alone in this battle.  Do not hesitate to ask for help if it comes to that. You are not playing with very nice people out there, but you have friends here who are willing to do whatever it takes to help rectify this situation.

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Hi There,

 

So I just saw this.... This would be like thousands of posts of mine, potentially... depending on what it means exactly. For some reason I'm not able to post in the Sale Ads yet... anyway (so no credit for posts :)) Would you just want to have all my posts taken off? I would be fine with that... how possible would that be? I know that when I was part of CC I posted a ton from there...etc....

I have been a bit busy lately and not on the forum in a while. It seems that a lot has been going on. I did as requested and removed anything questionable, including the avatar.

 

I went through all 40 pages that came up when I first learned of this threat. Then I read justasque's helpful post about searching my posts w/ this added info:

 

In the "Find Words" box, put .jpg

(Or, presumably, any other picture file extension, like .gif)

Be sure to include the period in .jpg or .gif, as you need at least four characters.

 

And I found more images that didn't turn up w/ my initial search. See the link above for justasque's full instructions. It didn't take much time at all.

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Guys,

 

I can't thank all of you enough for your help. All of your searching, deleting, and reporting is SO much appreciated. It has made a huge difference.

 

I do have an update for you, but I have to pass it by the lawyer before I can post it.   :angry: Stay tuned...

 

SWB

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Oh my. Haven't been in for a while, and then come by and find out they're putting you through this. I'm so sorry. I'm a bit late to the party, but I went and checked my threads, too.

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Guys,

 

I can't thank all of you enough for your help. All of your searching, deleting, and reporting is SO much appreciated. It has made a huge difference.

 

I do have an update for you, but I have to pass it by the lawyer before I can post it.   :angry: Stay tuned...

 

SWB

 

I hope that stern face is the stink eye that you and your lawyers have been giving the folks who are vexing you and not the look that you've been going around with.

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Guys,

 

I can't thank all of you enough for your help. All of your searching, deleting, and reporting is SO much appreciated. It has made a huge difference.

 

I do have an update for you, but I have to pass it by the lawyer before I can post it.   :angry: Stay tuned...

 

SWB

 

How is it going?

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