Hunter Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I didn't realize that some of the vertical cursive fonts/hands I have seen and like are French. Now I can talk all fancy about what people have been telling me is too "plain" and "childish". 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hunter Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 I downloaded this worksheet , but can't find it now, to link to it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nansk Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I personally believe a slight slant - 5 or 10 degree slant - is more natural and comfortable for a right-handed writer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymom Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Where can I purchase that workbook? Love it! :) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 This is what I have been using. They are in french so you have to hit the google translate- http://www.momes.net/education/ecriture/graphismes.html http://www.pepins-et-citrons.fr/les-majuscules-cursives-a2708213 i got the ideas for pens and paper here- http://blog.shopwritersbloc.com/general/should_children_learn_cursive_handwriting.html 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momacacia Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Will have to show this to 9yo. She is the one who pushed cursive in our house and now wants to learn French, because "it's pretty." She'll enjoy playing with this. Is there anything that shows how the letters connect? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 I found the chart. http://cp.lakanal.free.fr/ressources/ecriture/lettresetchiffres_lak.pdf Here is how to teach handwriting from a chart. http://practicalpages.wordpress.com/handwriting-pages/cursive-handwriting/ http://practicalpages.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/teaching-cursive-step-by-step.pdf Don Potter's Direct Path to Cursive instructions can be applied to any chart. http://donpotter.net/pdf/direct_path_to_cursive.pdf Practice sentences http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/269550-word-list-for-writing-practice/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Most of these fonts are lower case cursive, and uppercase manuscript or simple French uppercase http://www.edu.xunta.es/centros/ceipfrions/es/node/101 I've read French Parents saying the Cursif font is used in their schools. This one is fancy, maybe too fancy. http://www.dafont.com/cursif.font I think I might like this one best. police particulière abcCPEM à télécharger) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 You can make worksheets here. It took me awhile to figure out the options. http://cursivecole.fr/ecriture1.php Click "Majuscules en script" and the uppercase will be in manuscript. Leave it unclicked and the uppercase will be in cursive. Click "expert" and you can make choices about individual letter styles, and right or left handed. droiter means right-handed gaucher means left-handed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 I personally believe a slight slant - 5 or 10 degree slant - is more natural and comfortable for a right-handed writer. I think the German fonts are almost like the French, but with slant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 This is what I have been using. They are in french so you have to hit the google translate- http://www.pepins-et-citrons.fr/les-majuscules-cursives-a2708213 I've tried downloading documents from this site, but cannot open them. They are .fxp files? Can they be opened an a mac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think I'm going to go with a combination of the Cursif and abcCPEM fonts. They are almost identical; just the uppercase X and Z are different, and often any copywork I prepare, will not include either of those 2 letters. Between the 2 fonts, the student will be able to see exactly what a pencil/ballpoint pen looks like, and also be able to practice the exact heights of the letters on the lines. I have a LOT of lefties. These French fonts will allow me to accommodate the lefties' need for a vertical hand/font without the stigma of a remedial/child's hand. And when the basics are covered, they can choose a chart (or combination of charts) that they like best, and individualize their hand. French cursive isn't that different from Spalding. I should be able to convert my handwriting in a few days, if I really work at it. It's mostly just longer loops, not closing the "p", and some fancier uppercase letters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I've tried downloading documents from this site, but cannot open them. They are .fxp files? Can they be opened an a mac? That must not be the one I printed from. I'm not home but I will put up a better link tonight, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 I've been making copywork with the fonts. I hate making copywork with fonts. Yuck! And the pages stink of cheap burned ink. I read French teachers write the copywork in each student notebook. I'm going to use a chart to get mine right, and do what I've been doing all along, and continue to do it by hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Found it- http://ekladata.com/w3b1_NxgyjITiB8iUL1-uzh7oG4.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 I found the chart. http://cp.lakanal.free.fr/ressources/ecriture/lettresetchiffres_lak.pdf Here is how to teach handwriting from a chart. http://practicalpages.wordpress.com/handwriting-pages/cursive-handwriting/ http://practicalpages.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/teaching-cursive-step-by-step.pdf Don Potter's Direct Path to Cursive instructions can be applied to any chart. http://donpotter.net/pdf/direct_path_to_cursive.pdf Practice sentences http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/269550-word-list-for-writing-practice/ I added some more links to this post about using charts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Found it- http://ekladata.com/w3b1_NxgyjITiB8iUL1-uzh7oG4.pdf VERY NICE! :thumbup: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Found it- http://ekladata.com/w3b1_NxgyjITiB8iUL1-uzh7oG4.pdf Is there a part 1 for the lowercase letters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yes, I'm definitely going to use a chart. I used a little white out and a black pen, and changed a few things on my favorite chart, and I'm having no trouble writing models that are more than good enough for students to copy. Now as well as using a "French" hand, I can defend my handwritten models as the French way. :lol: Does anyone have links to french notebooks other than the one I posted above? I had been planning on maybe studying Spanish, but I think I want to study French right now. It would help just to know a few easy words like, right, left, and narrow when studying French handwriting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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momacacia Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I have a LOT of lefties. These French fonts will allow me to accommodate the lefties' need for a vertical hand/font without the stigma of a remedial/child's hand. And when the basics are covered, they can choose a chart (or combination of charts) that they like best, and individualize their hand. I was just wondering about this, so I rechecked this thread. This is wonderful stuff. My 5yo is a Lefty and honestly, I think I'm procrastinating teaching her to write because of that. Is the thought that this font (which I was just going to let my 9yo play with) would be an easy font for 5yo to learn as a left? We have not gotten that deep into the Cursive First font that we couldn't switch . . . and I see that all the lowercase letters (except m, n, and a few at the end of the alphabet) begin at the baseline---which I think makes so much sense about Cursive first. Hmmmmmm . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Some of the French fonts start on the baseline and some don't. That is one of the options at the worksheet generator. Also the option to use manuscript or cursive uppercase, is a great option for K-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Here is a link to a cursive first blog post where I found this picture of a notebook. http://sandboxtosocrates.com/2014/06/09/handwriting-learning-cursive-first/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Another picture of a notebook here. http://french-word-a-day.typepad.com/motdujour/penmanship/ If you click on the picture, it is an enlarged pop up. It looks like it's common to paste bits of worksheets in the notebooks, so the student can write on the special lined paper, instead of on the worksheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Mama Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Subbing. :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Video "Explaining French-rule (séyès)" http://www.inknouveau.com/2010/09/explaining-french-rule-seyes.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anabelneri Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 There are good French cursive apps available on iPad, in case that's handy. My kids like doing those. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 I have an iPad, but my purchased apps don't work. I gave up on the ipad and used a Kindle HDX for awhile, but ended out with a whole other set of problems, the worst of which was that I couldn't see the screen well enough. I have some major eye stuff going on right now, that won't be resolved any time soon. Such is MY life. :banghead: I have spent 2 hours trying to resolve this last night and this morning. I give up on apps again. :banghead: I guess I just need to use the ipad for email and document reading. It does that well. I guess I should be thankful for that. Two days ago, I gave up on the french cursive. I was writing it quite prettily, but needed graph paper. That was all fine for awhile and then...real life happened and I need to write a whole lot real fast, teeny tiny, on unlined paper and I had to revert back to my old handwriting. ME and MY life just cannot sustain such a superfluous style, and that's just the way it is. Every 6 months or so, I do this. I think I want to adopt something fancier than Spalding cursive and uppercase manuscript. I have good reasons. The hands are beautiful and useful for others. They just are not for ME. Other people wear high heals and skirts and blouses. I wear hiking books and sweats. It's not as easy to change handwriting as shoes and clothes, and I can't even handle fancier clothing SOMETIMES. What makes me thing I can handle fancier handwriting ALWAYS. My handwriting is like black yoga pants. It gets the job done, even when underdressed for the situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 My handwriting is like black yoga pants. It gets the job done, even when underdressed for the situation. Such a good analogy. I think the only way french cursive is normal is if you are french and have never written any differently. I think of it as fun, like trying to write in runes. I don't think it will ever replace my handwriting style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaquitita Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) Nm Edited December 12, 2015 by vaquitita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 Ooh pretty! Makes me want to switch from Getty -Dubay italic. But then ... those super fancy uppercase letters ... I know I will ditch them when Im in a hurry. I like the italic uppercase, a nice blend of simple with pretty. But it's the lowercase I find myself wanting the connecting tails on f/g/j/y. I'm going to be using the shortcut to cursive with my two starting next month. With italic. So I need to make up my mind now. Since I'm teaching it that way, I wonder if I should teach them the letters beginning at the baseline? After going through the shortcut to cursive I want to start my oldest on cursive copywork out of the McGuffey first reader. My daughter I'm starting in the primer. Im considering teaching her cursive as the letters come up in McGuffey instead of using the shortcut to cursive. Good luck choosing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momacacia Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 You know, I taught myself some calligraphy in my late teens/early twenties. I never had horrible handwriting, but it really improved, even day to day, with the addition of calligraphy work. Even to this day, my daily, fast handwriting (mix of cursive and print) has changed because of that time. My lowercase Fs are faincier, I write my As differently, my W is entirely based on the calligraphy style I learned, and I just learned to have a 'hand,' at all. If one has time (that's a BIG IF), I think there's value in playing with some of these things. Pick a letter you love and want to incorporate into your style. Let a child who is interested, play around with the font sheet. Will my 9yo actually change her style after being exposed to this? I hope not . . . she's still really ingraining her style, still has a cursive capital J to work on, etc. But, will she enjoy the play and maybe come back to it when she's 15 and develop her own beautiful, personal hand---maybe so. Her Kindergarten unteachableness and desire to write fancy are after all why we found Cursive First in the first place. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniter Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I found this website that allows you to create handwriting practice pages using Seyes ruled paper. http://cursivecole.fr/ecriture1.php It's a French website so everything is in French, but it is fairly easy to decipher. *** Oops, didn't see someone had already posted this! :huh: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniter Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Way at the bottom there are practice pages: http://soutien67.free.fr/francais/niv01/franniv01.htm#lettres%20et%20mots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniter Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Loose leaf paper source: http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/clairefontaine-paper/c964 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniter Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 ipenstore on Amazon sells Clairefontained notebooks w/French Ruled paper. If you search "French Ruled", a bunch of items pop up. http://www.amazon.com/Clairefontaine-Wirebound-Notebook-French-Ruled/dp/B00A6VVING/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417997146&sr=8-1&keywords=french+ruled+paper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDoe Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Thanks to all previous posters for great info here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rebecaqueen Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) i bought mine from here Edited January 1, 2016 by rebecaqueen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rebecaqueen Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 i bought mine from link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniter Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I found a generator for Seyes ruled paper. http://www.desmoulins.fr/index.php?pg=scripts!online!feuilles!form_feuille_gros_carreaux ** this generator is nice because it will generate a letter-sized document. You can also change the settings for whatever color lines you like. The standard Seyes is 2mm/space for a total of 8mm each row. The ruling for "visually impaired" is 2.5mm/space for a total of 10mm each row. My French is really rusty, but that is what I gathered. Teachers will typically start their kids off w/4mm/space = 16mm/row. When the letter are *perfect*, then they move on to 3mm/space = 12mm/row. It appears the kids may stay at 3mm for quite a while... I bought a bunch of Seyes ruled things for my kids, and standard Seyes is quite small for a kid not yet in middle school. It is very difficult to get your hands on the "agrandi" Seyes ruled paper. France won't directly distribute the paper to the US, and very few sellers on Amazon.fr or ebay.fr will ship to the US. I haven't tried to purchase it, because the cost would be exorbitant. My kids have gotten rather...sloppy w/their cursive, probably because the lines were too small for them. I may be printing a lot of paper to remedy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjkahvedjian Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Found the lowercase! (from jardinalice.eklablog.com) http://ekladata.com/_MppcNT9k1VQnPWsMfOnbg3gKbs.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolkitty Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I downloaded this worksheet , but can't find it now, to link to it. This link looks similar http://toluca-lyon.blogspot.com/2009/04/comprendre-lecriture-francaise.html?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madteaparty Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I’m bumping this old thread ask if anyone was able to buy, in the US, any ready-made worksheets using French cursive. A la the Zaner Blosser but in this style? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, madteaparty said: I’m bumping this old thread ask if anyone was able to buy, in the US, any ready-made worksheets using French cursive. A la the Zaner Blosser but in this style? Anyone? TPT has some for free and some for a small fee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madteaparty Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, HomeAgain said: TPT has some for free and some for a small fee. Thank you lady. I ended up paying extortious shipping to have some sent from France but this will hold us over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent FrenchMan Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 You might like these handwriting booklets, I used them in the 90's, they are very cute! Lower case https://manuelsanciens.blogspot.com/2012/09/grosgurin-cahier-eglantine-ce1.html Upper case https://manuelsanciens.blogspot.com/2012/06/grosgurin-cahier-capucine-ce2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janeway Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 7/16/2014 at 9:59 PM, nansk said: I personally believe a slight slant - 5 or 10 degree slant - is more natural and comfortable for a right-handed writer. What should the left handed writer do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarita Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Janeway said: What should the left handed writer do? I suppose you don't have to have a slant in your cursive if you don't want to. Also know at some point beautiful cursive becomes calligraphy. That is an artform not the handwriting that you use all the time. In that relm lefties and righties find a way to get the look. Although, I may not know what I'm talking about since I technically don't know how to write in cursive. I just know how to do calligraphy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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