Scarlett Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Can you call his wife? She may not be entirely aware of the situation. No. I cannot trust her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joules Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 :grouphug: , Scarlett. I know this must be hard. I don't have any better advice than what you've gotten here by people in the know, but I'm thinking of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Scarlett-- :grouphug: Your brother has a diagnosed, serious mental illness. He is off his meds. The rules for most people do not apply here. There is a strong likelihood that he is delusional and/or hallucinating. He is armed. This is very, very dangerous. From your distance, you do not have an effective way to evaluate the danger. Even if you lived next door, you are not equipped to evaluate the danger because you are not a doctor or a psychiatrist. I understand your fear. I experienced this fear dealing with mentally ill people in my life, and I have experienced it on the few occasions I have had to call DCFS for child abuse. The bottom line, however, is that your mentally ill brother is off his meds, armed, and targeting people. Please report this. I'm sorry--really and truly sorry. :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 That is just the thing though. He is targeting no one. He has not made one single threat. I talks to my mom, my dad, my husband....and we have all decided to do nothing based upon our knowledge of him. I came here because I needed perspective as to whether he is texting crazy stuff....I think I got 100% agreement that he is mentally ill. So thank you for that......:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 That is just the thing though. He is targeting no one. He has not made one single threat. I talks to my mom, my dad, my husband....and we have all decided to do nothing based upon our knowledge of him. I came here because I needed perspective as to whether he is texting crazy stuff....I think I got 100% agreement that he is mentally ill. So thank you for that......:) You know your brother better than anyone else, Scarlett, so I trust that you are making the right decision. I also completely trust that you care enough about other people that if you think your brother is becoming an actual threat to anyone, you will not hesitate to put your personal feelings about your brother aside and notify the authorities at that time. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this, and I am especially sorry that your poor brother is suffering from mental illness. I hope you can find a way to encourage him to start taking his medications again so he can start to feel better. It sounds like the poor guy is in a bad place right now, and that while his wife thinks she is being supportive of him, she is actually hurting him by not insisting he get help. Will he listen to your mom if she asks him about his meds? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 You know your brother better than anyone else, Scarlett, so I trust that you are making the right decision. I also completely trust that you care enough about other people that if you think your brother is becoming an actual threat to anyone, you will not hesitate to put your personal feelings about your brother aside and notify the authorities at that time. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this, and I am especially sorry that your poor brother is suffering from mental illness. I hope you can find a way to encourage him to start taking his medications again so he can start to feel better. It sounds like the poor guy is in a bad place right now, and that while his wife thinks she is being supportive of him, she is actually hurting him by not insisting he get help. Will he listen to your mom if she asks him about his meds? No because he is too hung up and fixated on our religion. I got another long text this morning about how it destroyed our family. My poor mom...she called me this morning and we talked about him some and she began to cry. I just can't bring this up to her any more. It is just killing her. She knows it is not her fault, and that there is NOTHING she can do but she is just devastated by the venom he spews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 From one lady with a mentally ill and erratic brother to another. (((hugs))) That's very difficult to deal with. A psych hold might be more helpful than contacting federal law enforcement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 From one lady with a mentally ill and erratic brother to another. (((hugs))) That's very difficult to deal with. A psych hold might be more helpful than contacting federal law enforcement. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 So tonight I get these screen shots from db. Beautiful sky with a white dot in it which he says is suspicious bcause it is in a no fly zone near the encampment which he alludes to being an Isis training camp. I ask him a few pointed questions...who is"we"? How do you know this? Things like that. He is not forthcoming. Very weird acting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 So tonight I get these screen shots from db. Beautiful sky with a white dot in it which he says is suspicious bcause it is in a no fly zone near the encampment which he alludes to being an Isis training camp. One of his paranoid friends using a drone to check out the 'encampment'? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 One of his paranoid friends using a drone to check out the 'encampment'? Yes. They tried to get a helicopter to take them up but no one would,claiming it is a no fly zone. I am thinking they know my brother and his friends are crazy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yes. They tried to get a helicopter to take them up but no one would,claiming it is a no fly zone. I am thinking they know my brother and his friends are crazy. I was wondering why it would be a no fly zone - probably a charter pilot's excuse to your brother. But there are lights because it's NOT a no fly zone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 My best friend lives in this small town and her husband is a pilot. He flies out of that airport ALL the time.....the area my brother is talking about is sooo close I don't know how a pilot would avoid it in that area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yes. They tried to get a helicopter to take them up but no one would,claiming it is a no fly zone. I am thinking they know my brother and his friends are crazy. I agree. If they told the pilot why they wanted to charter the helicopter, he probably didn't want to get involved. I don't blame him! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joules Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 My best friend lives in this small town and her husband is a pilot. He flies out of that airport ALL the time.....the area my brother is talking about is sooo close I don't know how a pilot would avoid it in that area. It's probably a no-fly zone for helicopters and small planes because it is so close to the airport. They don't want anything else in the way of planes landing and taking off, so there is a perimeter off-limits to other aircraft (like news choppers.) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Do you even have to give your name or relationship when you call in a wellness check? Just call anonymously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G5052 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 My best friend lives in this small town and her husband is a pilot. He flies out of that airport ALL the time.....the area my brother is talking about is sooo close I don't know how a pilot would avoid it in that area. :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: I called my sibling last week (our twice-a-year call), and thankfully nothing of note there. But I though of you because I know how it is to have a sibling that you're worried about. Mine never married and is more of a recluse, but I still worry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 He sent me a pic of a tree in the forest. It has a couple of odd man made marks on it. To my brother it is proof of something BIG.....I contacted my BIL who works for the Forest Department and although this isn't his area he gave me a hint and a 5 minute Google search tells me it is part of efforts to save/monitor an endangered bird. Right down to the area my brother is talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plink Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Oh Scarlet, I am so sorry that you feel compelled to chase down his imaginary rabbit trails. Nothing you could possibly say to him is going to increase his hold on reality. Praying he gets medical help soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 He sent me a pic of a tree in the forest. It has a couple of odd man made marks on it. To my brother it is proof of something BIG.....I contacted my BIL who works for the Forest Department and although this isn't his area he gave me a hint and a 5 minute Google search tells me it is part of efforts to save/monitor an endangered bird. Right down to the area my brother is talking about. Did you tell your brother about it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 Oh Scarlet, I am so sorry that you feel compelled to chase down his imaginary rabbit trails. Nothing you could possibly say to him is going to increase his hold on reality. Praying he gets medical help soon. I don't feel compelled. I feel curious. When we were kids we would see a pool of blood on the high way. No unusual at all..lots of roadkill. There was a time when I was 13 or 14 that kids started saying if there was blood in the road with no drag marks or body it meant satanic worshippers were in the area. Kids are dumb. And dramatic. Never mind that predators or scavengers easily pick up dead animals and walk off into the woods. A quick question to our parents would have solved the mystery. Or spoiled the mystery. That is what this feels like. He could easily find out what these marked up trees mean. But he is so convinced the government is involved in something sinister he won't ask questions like a normal human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 Did you tell your brother about it yet? No. Trying to decide if I should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 If he is using a drone, it might be worth mentioning that it is now federal law that all drones must be registered with the FAA. I wonder if law enforcement could give a courtesy call about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 If he is using a drone, it might be worth mentioning that it is now federal law that all drones must be registered with the FAA. I wonder if law enforcement could give a courtesy call about that? I don't think he is using a drone, I think he and his equally paranoid buddies are wondering around national forest land in the area where they have heard there is a terrorist training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 No. Trying to decide if I should. I absolutely would. Even if he thinks it's all part of a big conspiracy, maybe one of his friends will be smarter about it. What would be the point of not telling him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 I absolutely would. Even if he thinks it's all part of a big conspiracy, maybe one of his friends will be smarter about it. What would be the point of not telling him? Because nothing is going to convince him. My BIL said, "you know the endangered bird story is just a cover for the conspiracy story, right?" He and I LOL......but my brother won't be amused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8circles Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I absolutely would. Even if he thinks it's all part of a big conspiracy, maybe one of his friends will be smarter about it. What would be the point of not telling him? I'm not sure if I think Scarlett telling her brother is a good idea or not. But it definitely could be a bad thing. Scarlett could move from a trusted loved-one that needs protection to being on his conspiracy list & when someone is unhinged, that could be dangerous. Or if not dangerous, more worrisome for Scarlett because then she'd be totally out of the loop and worry more about her brother. Just my thoughts, though. I'm not sure if Scarlett is afraid of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Because nothing is going to convince him. My BIL said, "you know the endangered bird story is just a cover for the conspiracy story, right?" He and I LOL......but my brother won't be amused. I still think he deserves to be told the truth. You got the info from someone who works for the forestry department, not some sort of Army general or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I'm not sure if I think Scarlett telling her brother is a good idea or not. But it definitely could be a bad thing. Scarlett could move from a trusted loved-one that needs protection to being on his conspiracy list & when someone is unhinged, that could be dangerous. Or if not dangerous, more worrisome for Scarlett because then she'd be totally out of the loop and worry more about her brother. Just my thoughts, though. I'm not sure if Scarlett is afraid of that. I'm thinking she could phrase it as having been concerned about the markings, too, so she started researching to find out what they might mean. She could make it like she was trying to help, not trying to prove him wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8circles Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I'm thinking she could phrase it as having been concerned about the markings, too, so she started researching to find out what they might mean. She could make it like she was trying to help, not trying to prove him wrong. Yes, that is possible. I just think it's too rational to work on someone already so unhinged. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yes, that is possible. I just think it's too rational to work on someone already so unhinged. You're probably right. I was just thinking that if he and his friends do something stupid based on this "evidence," and something bad happens, Scarlett will always wonder if she should have told him. He might listen to his own sister, and even if he doesn't believe her, he will probably think she was just trying to help. I feel like he trusts her, so she should be honest with him about the markings. If he chooses not to believe her, that's out of her control, but let's say the situation was reversed and he didn't tell Scarlett something important because he was afraid she wouldn't believe him -- like if years ago he knew what a weasel Scarlett's ex-dh was, but didn't tell her -- she might not have wanted to believe him at the time, but he would have still been doing the right thing by giving her the information. I mean, I know it's different because Scarlett is rational and her brother isn't, but I keep coming back to the trust issue, and the idea that she should be honest with her brother about the markings in case he or his friends might believe her. I could be way off-base about this, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 You're probably right. I was just thinking that if he and his friends do something stupid based on this "evidence," and something bad happens, Scarlett will always wonder if she should have told him. He might listen to his own sister, and even if he doesn't believe her, he will probably think she was just trying to help. I feel like he trusts her, so she should be honest with him about the markings. If he chooses not to believe her, that's out of her control, but let's say the situation was reversed and he didn't tell Scarlett something important because he was afraid she wouldn't believe him -- like if years ago he knew what a weasel Scarlett's ex-dh was, but didn't tell her -- she might not have wanted to believe him at the time, but he would have still been doing the right thing by giving her the information. I mean, I know it's different because Scarlett is rational and her brother isn't, but I keep coming back to the trust issue, and the idea that she should be honest with her brother about the markings in case he or his friends might believe her. I could be way off-base about this, though. Well I told him. He said oh cool we have some neat birds here. I sent him the link to the article complete with pics just like what he sent me. I asked him if he read the article.....not yet. He has to go with his friend to town. I don't think he or his friends are going to do anything to anyone. I just think he is a mentally ill man with too much time on his hands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Well I told him. He said oh cool we have some neat birds here. I sent him the link to the article complete with pics just like what he sent me. I asked him if he read the article.....not yet. He has to go with his friend to town. I don't think he or his friends are going to do anything to anyone. I just think he is a mentally ill man with too much time on his hands. I'm glad you told him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 So this morning brother texts my mom for the first time in 2 months. She asks him if he saw that her house is for sale.....yes he has seen the ads etc.....he asked her if they were going to build....she said no we moving over to be near Scarlett....in case we need help in the future. He says "yeah because no one here would do that for you." Total sarcasm of course....she let it pass..... I feel bad for him.....but he has created this mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 So. My brothers wife has cancer, she went in for hemorrhoid surgery last Friday and came out with a cancer diagnosis. It is anal....and I think very very bad. They have a 5 year old. My brother is out of his mind with grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'm so sorry... :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfunnybunch Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'm sorry. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 That's awful. I'm sorry, Scarlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoobie Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Oh how horrible! I'm so sorry. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Kate Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'm so sorry. (((hugs))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I am so, so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janeway Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Chances are, when you were ten, you were not noticing how clean his clothes were or otherwise. And he is four years difference. You asked YOUR friends what things were like, not his. Perhaps you were the golden child and he was a black sheep. Or, maybe he is delusional. Can't say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamiof5 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'm so sorry!!!! Prayers for her and his family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Oh woe, Scarlett. :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'm sorry, Scarlet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinnia Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 So sorry, Scarlett. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Girls' Mom Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 So sorry Scarlet :grouphug: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlsdMama Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'm so sorry. :( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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