QueenCat Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 $8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Add a pot of tea and nice teacups and I'd feel like I got a real experience for $10 :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catz Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 We can't hardly get a crappy fast food meal for one person for $5.99 in our area. That seems way cheap to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Looked up the price at a comparable local restaurant and it's 6.35 and includes a side like home fries or oatmeal. Another is 8:95 and includes 2 sides (fruit and potatoes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 $6-$7 tops. I would starve before paying what most people here are suggesting. For $10 I could buy all the ingredients, make it myself, and feed my whole family and a couple of guests... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I just looked up our favorite local breakfast spot and that breakfast is $8.95, but it comes with potatoes or fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Looked up the price at a comparable local restaurant and it's 6.35 and includes a side like home fries or oatmeal. Another is 8:95 and includes 2 sides (fruit and potatoes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Do you mean the other café in my town? If so, the price difference is because they use med eggs and the cheapest bread, and even with that, the restaurant food supply rep says that the other café will be unable to sustain those prices for very long. The other place is also a very different style than mine, and is likely to appeal to a slightly different target market. I don't think I can compete with them price-wise with those things in mind. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Do you mean the other café in my town? If so, the price difference is because they use med eggs and the cheapest bread, and even with that, the restaurant food supply rep says that the other café will be unable to sustain those prices for very long. The other place is also a very different style than mine, and is likely to appeal to a slightly different target market. I don't think I can compete with them price-wise with those things in mind. :-/ Price things well for your cafe. I would pay more to go to your place, it's lovely and we know the food is fabulous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Know your customers. Where I live, people will pay for place/quality. You are trying to attract those who prefer a non-chain restaurant. Quite honestly, I don't pay for others to make me breakfast because I just don't care. BUT! my family loves a good restaurant breakfast. Even the most fabulous $3 breakfast wouldn't get me showered and dressed early on a weekend. OTOH, my dh and daughters LOVE a good restaurant breakfast, and have their favs. Dh does try to keep it to around $30/$35 before tip. Dh wouldn't take the girls to a Denny's unless they were on a crazy road trip and had to; no way, no how. They go out for breakfast for good food and ambiance/community. It doesn't matter that I have free range eggs and organic everything in the fridge. They really enjoy eating in cute/delicious breakfast places. You are offering something most people could easily prepare if they wanted to. Don't undercut yourself if you don't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 $5.99 in that neat location would make me a regular customer. Way to go, Julie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeneralMom Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yesterday mum and I ate at a cafe. That exact item was $19. Sides like avocado were extra $2 each. The coffee was cheap at $3 small or $4 large. Of course, I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Are most customoers or potential customers going to know that your eggs are larger and bread better? They might just compare prices.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Your cafe is beautiful! I'm delighted to see you moving forward on your dreams. You go, girl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 How much does it cost you to produce, including proportion of overheads, taxes, etc. allocated to each meal? What do you need to set aside for a rainy day/future developments? You've probably thought through all this, but I thought I'd mention it..... L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 This really depends on where you live. Here in Far-Far-Away, that would easily go for $15-$20 in a nice restaurant, $13-$15 at Dennys. ??? Denny's online menus shows 2 eggs, 2 bacon or sausage, and 2 pancakes for $4. Even if you couldn't do a direct substitution, I doubt 2 pieces of toast or a biscuit is going to cost $10. OP - for quality food I think $7-8 is reasonable, but I'm not sure what your local market supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Oh, I've done all of the calculating. Food cost needs to fall at no more than 30%. That two egg breakfast as I'm serving it is right at that 30% maximum. Funny story. There is a TV show called Bar Rescue. The "rescuer" was quizzing the cook at a bar about food costs. The cook said food costs should be 90%. Uh, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Lol! Not even close! I'm not sure that any of my employees would know food cost % either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Just a thought about the nice FB page: I'd probably remove the "reviews" from the person who had obviously not ever eaten there, and also the lovely one from Mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Lol! Not even close! I'm not sure that any of my employees would know food cost % either. Well, this cook claimed he was a professionally trained chef...but he was a nightmare. Not knowing food costs was the least of his problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Could you keep this basic meal on the low side...then make up for it by charging a tad more for more special items like French toast made with your special bread, etc.? Here, we have a place called Ann Slathers. It is in the formerly Swedish part of Chicago, and has a few Swedish specialties on the menu. But what really draws folks in are the HUGE cinnemon rolls that come with everything on the breakfast menu. Since you are one great baker, make a signature cinnamon roll or muffin or something that is not $$$ to make in bulk and hand it out with EVERY b'fast. Folks will love it and come back often. Works for Ann Slathers. Much more memorable than toast, no matter how good the bread is. People will think they are getting good value, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaNYC Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 About $6-$7 at a NYC diner. http://www.mikesdinerastoria.com/Datamenu.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I'd expect to pay about $8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Mousie Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I'd charge $6 or some round number. Our favorite nice casual breakfast/brunch place's menu: http://www.westeggcafe.com/media/pdf/10.11.13_Breakfast_Menu.pdf They charge $8 but include grits or skillet potatoes. :) Yep, without potatoes I'd say $6-7. And, without potatoes, I'd probably still be hungry - but wouldn't order an additional item. :leaving: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Mousie Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Could you keep this basic meal on the low side...then make up for it by charging a tad more for more special items like French toast made with your special bread, etc.? Here, we have a place called Ann Slathers. It is in the formerly Swedish part of Chicago, and has a few Swedish specialties on the menu. But what really draws folks in are the HUGE cinnemon rolls that come with everything on the breakfast menu. Since you are one great baker, make a signature cinnamon roll or muffin or something that is not $$$ to make in bulk and hand it out with EVERY b'fast. Folks will love it and come back often. Works for Ann Slathers. Much more memorable than toast, no matter how good the bread is. People will think they are getting good value, too. Tee hee ... it's Ann Sather's - although "Slathers" definitely reflects the style there! :drool5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Tee hee ... it's Ann Sather's - although "Slathers" definitely reflects the style there! :drool5: You slather on the calories at Ann Sathers. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Do you mean the other café in my town? If so, the price difference is because they use med eggs and the cheapest bread, and even with that, the restaurant food supply rep says that the other café will be unable to sustain those prices for very long. The other place is also a very different style than mine, and is likely to appeal to a slightly different target market. I don't think I can compete with them price-wise with those things in mind. :-/ If this was in response to my post (not sure), I looked up the prices here locally (on the East Coast) and gave you those prices. Both restaurants fit your description of your restaurant and one of them even has similar decor. They both have excellent food. There may be price differences for food from where you are, but you asked all of us what we'd pay. I was trying to be helpful by looking up actual prices of similar restaurants for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 If this was in response to my post (not sure), I looked up the prices here locally (on the East Coast) and gave you those prices. Both restaurants fit your description of your restaurant and one of them even has similar decor. They both have excellent food. There may be price differences for food from where you are, but you asked all of us what we'd pay. I was trying to be helpful by looking up actual prices of similar restaurants for you. I wasn't sure if you meant that you'd checked where you were, or if you'd checked where I am. :001_smile: It sounded like you were describing my closest competition in town here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 At our restaurant we offer this exact breakfast at $4.99 at 22 per cent food cost with no garnish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 At our restaurant we offer this exact breakfast at $4.99 at 22 per cent food cost with no garnish. 2 ex-lg. eggs .34 2 slices bacon .43 butter/oil blend .04 1 oz. butter for toast .17 2 slices sourdough .46 2 oz. jam .48 garnish .05 $1.97 in food cost Menu item price $5.99 22% food cost would be great, but I'm not hitting it! :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 We are paying a lot more for bacon, but our bread is .20 a slice and I forgot we are only doing one slice of bread on a "lite" breakfast and our butter and jam are cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbridgeacademy Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 $6-$7 tops. I would starve before paying what most people here are suggesting. For $10 I could buy all the ingredients, make it myself, and feed my whole family and a couple of guests... :iagree: but if I were travelling I'd probably pay the $6-7 as long as the coffee was free refills and I could get a side of hash browns for around $2 ;) . For those of you who have to pay $10+ for breakfast; are the food prices that much higher at the store as well? Here in the Midwest (Indiana): Eggs run about $1.50 (plain white) to 3.50 veggie fed/cage free, brown, or local farmer free range around $4 per dozen(or green, blue, pink, ones from my sister for free) . Bacon used to be cheaper but runs around $4-$4.50 per pound now. 12 grain bread is about $3 per loaf or bakery bread maybe $4.00. So that works out to be between $1.25 +/- to $2.00 per person. Okay now I'm hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoobie Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 :iagree: but if I were travelling I'd probably pay the $6-7 as long as the coffee was free refills and I could get a side of hash browns for around $2 ;) . For those of you who have to pay $10+ for breakfast; are the food prices that much higher at the store as well? Here in the Midwest (Indiana): Eggs run about $1.50 (plain white) to 3.50 veggie fed/cage free, brown, or local farmer free range around $4 per dozen(or green, blue, pink, ones from my sister for free) . Bacon used to be cheaper but runs around $4-$4.50 per pound now. 12 grain bread is about $3 per loaf or bakery bread maybe $4.00. So that works out to be between $1.25 +/- to $2.00 per person. Okay now I'm hungry. Organic, cage free eggs are at least $4/doz. Thick, quality bacon is $4-6/pkg but the packages are now 8-12oz, not 16oz. I don't go out to breakfast because it's cheaper than cooking at home. I go out so we can each order our favorites (one kid wants pancakes, one wants French toast? No problem!), and all the meals are delivered at the same time. I'm not stuck eating cold eggs and cleaning the kitchen. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umsami Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 For those of you who have to pay $10+ for breakfast; are the food prices that much higher at the store as well? I wouldn't normally pay it, but those are the prices here (SW FL) for normal nice casual breakfast places (not Denny's, Perkins, etc.) Near my Mom's house in Central Florida, they are a little cheaper. There's a chain called First Watch which does just breakfast/lunch. Here's their menu. I'm guessing it's in the 6-8 range there, but it's been awhile since I've gone. http://www.firstwatch.com/menu There's also the Peach Valley Cafe…which is nice. It would be $4.99 for eggs, hash browns, toast/biscuit…and add $2.99 if you want breakfast meat http://www.peachvalleyrestaurants.com/menu.php#eggs-menu For organic cage-free eggs here, it's around $4.50/dozen. We buy Applewood Turkey bacon…and get 2 packages for $10 at BJs. Nice 12 grain bread from Publix's bakery is $3.99/loaf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelotmom Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 $5.99 is about what I'd expect to pay for that meal with standard Sysco-type ingredients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Mousie Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Am I the only one who can't stop thinking about bacon now? :drool5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Am I the only one who can't stop thinking about bacon now? :drool5: Me, too, but I'm also remembering it's bacon cooked and served and cleaned up after by someone else. That makes it sound even better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 So far the consensus seems to be that $5.99 would probably not be out of line? $5.99 would be the Senior price around here - it is Florida after all. :lol: Around $8 would be expected, especially now that I looked at the facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Yes, I think $5.99 would be just fine, just charge a reasonable price for coffee with free refills. Oh, I also wanted to add that I love the signature cinnamon rolls/sweet addictive baked goodie idea that someone mentioned up thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Here, we have a place called Ann Slathers. It is in the formerly Swedish part of Chicago, and has a few Swedish specialties on the menu. But what really draws folks in are the HUGE cinnemon rolls that come with everything on the breakfast menu. I love love love Ann Sathers. Now I have a craving for cinnamon rolls..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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