umsami Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Math-U-See. It's horrible, but I find the guy annoying. I also find Jim Weiss's voice annoying which is a pain, because I'd love to be able to listen to the SOTW mp3s. The spelling program that uses a white board and those little letter tiles. We would lose them so quickly. Young Earth Science stuff, because actual science doesn't support that. Anything that talks about people of other faiths (or no faith) going to hell. Sonlight and their love of praying for people in the 10/40 window is a real turn off. I would rather respect and tolerance be taught than some sort of religious superiority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolamum Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Math Mammoth {seriously can't stand} IEW Rod & Staff MFW Singapore Math Apologia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolamum Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I also find Jim Weiss's voice annoying which is a pain, because I'd love to be able to listen to the SOTW mp3s. Yes, a million times yes. He puts us to sleep! We'll take Jim Dale any day of the week & twice on Fridays thank you very much. I was so sad to have SOTW on audio & feel like I was gonna doze off because STOW isn't boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruthie in MS Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'm not interested in anything that teaches evolution as fact I'm with you on that one! I have quite a list myself. I will go ahead and say I dislike any curriculum that is strictly classical. I know, weird, right? I'm on a classical homeschooling forum and I dislike the classical method. AAS- I did look at it but why is it so expensive to teach SPELLING?? HOD- Um, no TOG- because it's classical Singapore- WAY out of my comfort zone Life of Fred- Just too strange Rod and Staff- I love that it's Christian but I'm bored to death just looking at the samples BJU- too much like A Beka Alpha Omega- tried it while being a homeschooled student and I felt it was a punishment for something I didn't even do!! ACE- Just no MCT- I'm not even 100% sure what this is but it just LOOKS complicated Spelling Power- Why should SPELLING be this complicated? IEW-- or anything that makes writing a chore Sonlight- I have seriously looked at this twice but I can't justify the cost or the lose of sanity because you are in the middle of several different books at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Mom in NC Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 School in a box curriculum of all sorts 100 EZ Lessons- I'd rather teach them to read English as it's actually written, not with distracting symbols added. Anything scripted. TOG IEW- Writing by formula is bad writing if you ask me. Yes, I went to the seminar and yes I did try it. Saxon All old fashioned, loopy, frilly handwriting programs. Spelling Power-Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. Anything read aloud by Jim Weiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitterpatter Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 LOF for sure! Miquon...bought the whole shebang, spent a day trying to figure out how to incorporate it, decided it's a mess we don't have time for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nansk Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Handwriting with Tears...so ugly! And any handwriting curriculum with a modern cursive Q :iagree: Another one I don't think we'll try is AOPS. My dd is not the right student for it. Also, anything not secular. So no TOG, MOH, HOD, MFW, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nansk Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I also find Jim Weiss's voice annoying which is a pain, because I'd love to be able to listen to the SOTW mp3s. Wow! I am glad to hear other people on this thread express this sentiment. I listened to a SOTW sample and could not imagine why people willingly listen to this! He makes the stories seem sooo boring. Also agree with this: Young Earth Science stuff, because actual science doesn't support that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking Squirrels Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Anything overly religious. I'd rather not religious at all, but as long as it's usable in a secular way, I'll consider it. We're using SOTW next year. But I am not at all interested in things such as apologia, MFW, TOG... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targhee Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 This is not curriculum bashing from me - there are just some things which won't work for us, as I am sure there are many things we use which do not work for others. Saxon Horizon math Math U See MFW Tapestry of Grace HOD MOH FLL WWS Rod and Staff GWG, WWW Apologia science Rainbow science RS4K BJU Abeka It seems that I don't like boxed things (like MFW), probably because I need flexibility in content and speed at the subject and topic levels. I also don't start grammar with my kids until 4th grade, so the slow and steady grammars are right out. I'm have my own take on science, an most curricula just kill the joy my kids find in science. I keep wanting to like WWS, but every time I look at the samples to see if it would work for us I tell myself "there's no way - I love expository and persuasive writing and even I don't like this." And math, well, we are so far very happy with with that I don't even feel a need to go poking around these other maths. And I don't want anything that is "school at home." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I must say that I'm so thrilled not to be the only one who is not interested in HOD. :grouphug: I cannot, however, wrap my mind around anyone calling MFW "boxed." :blink: I will forever think of "school in a box," meaning buying a box of same-grade-level books from a single publisher (ABeka, BJUP, etc.) or a single source (CLASS/Christian Liberty Press/Timberdoodle). It's not unlike "language arts," because people mean different things when they say it. But I digress. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I would never use Sonlight because I don't like their assumption that we are unsaved heathens because we are not their religion. And because when I initially inquired with them about the religious bent of their program (way back in the goo-goo days of my beginning to homeschool), they lied to me. They told me that someone of my religion could use their program as-is, when in reality they have lots of delightful little stories about people of our religion and how much better off they were after they were converted from their heathen ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventuresinHomeschooling Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Ellie - I looked at MFW, and while their selections of literature are good and not boxed, the schedule is quite rigid, and I just knew it would not work. They have multiple subjects outlined on a schedule, and I would make a mess of that very quickly. What if we wanted to read further in one book and not only read 4 pages. It's not that we might skip a day and just pick back up, but we might skip a subject for a day and be on day 3 for that subject and day 4 for another. I knew it just wasn't as flexible, and they don't have a lot of substitute books...therefore, it's a box of books where you check off the box of assignments. It's $100 for the teacher's manual alone, and I'd have to completely rework it all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Ellie - I looked at MFW, and while their selections of literature are good and not boxed, the schedule is quite rigid, and I just knew it would not work. They have multiple subjects outlined on a schedule, and I would make a mess of that very quickly. What if we wanted to read further in one book and not only read 4 pages. It's not that we might skip a day and just pick back up, but we might skip a subject for a day and be on day 3 for that subject and day 4 for another. I knew it just wasn't as flexible, and they don't have a lot of substitute books...therefore, it's a box of books where you check off the box of assignments. It's $100 for the teacher's manual alone, and I'd have to completely rework it all year. I don't know if I would like it, either; it just strikes me weird to call it "box curriculum." :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClassical Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I jumped on sonlight and returned it 3 weeks later - quickly helped me evaluate what was way wrong for us. No interest in: BJU except the foreign language which we are using next year. Teaching Textbooks (I can't even get past the title) Mammoth Math Saxon Math 100 easy lessons Any curriculum that is Completely based on Unit Studies Apologia (I'm christian, but I think the texts are making it out like YE is the only "true" Christianity. Which is a shame) Real Science 4 Kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwmama Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 IEW and I'm on the outs with most of my CC friends because of this one but I do not like it, Sam I am! Any science with experiments, I need a co-op, and have no problem paying for one, to have someone else do that! Sonlight - used it as a homeschooler myself in high school, didn't hate it or anything but I'd rather piece my own stuff together. BJU/A Beka - also used as a homeschooler and did hate, very very much. Will never subject my kids to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Abeka, IEW, K12, Apologia, BJU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Saxon-hated it as a PS student, DD hated it in private school, and it's just not the way I want math to be. Anything where religion is more important than content-especially for science and history CLE-and I have a friend who works for the company, with the possible exception of some of the life skills LUs for high school. R&S Reading books, even though DD loved them when she was about 6, because she liked the big pictures and larger fonts-but if I'd actually have had to teach using the scripted questions and worksheets and stuff like that....I think I broke out in hives just thinking about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelmama1209 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I must say that I'm so thrilled not to be the only one who is not interested in HOD. :grouphug: I cannot, however, wrap my mind around anyone calling MFW "boxed." :blink: I will forever think of "school in a box," meaning buying a box of same-grade-level books from a single publisher (ABeka, BJUP, etc.) or a single source (CLASS/Christian Liberty Press/Timberdoodle). It's not unlike "language arts," because people mean different things when they say it. But I digress. :D um, i bought mfw k and everything i needed came to me all neatly packed in a box. didn't work for us, but that, to me, is a "boxed" curric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeghanL Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I think we've hit all the curricula that is currently available now. These threads always crack me up. "What's Your Favorite Curricula?" and everything is eventually listed. "What bombed?" and everything is eventually listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottonmama Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 AAR AAS Any packaged curriculum (why would I pay money for you to take away the best part of planning? :-D :-D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondeviolin Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yes, a million times yes. He puts us to sleep! We'll take Jim Dale any day of the week & twice on Fridays thank you very much. I was so sad to have SOTW on audio & feel like I was gonna doze off because STOW isn't boring. SOTW also had a female narrator at one point. Barbara Johnson. We don't have that version, but I see you can find them on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0974239119?pc_redir=1399586816&robot_redir=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Wow, is there anything left lol! I am realizing that if it was used heavily by homeschoolers in the 90s, then it is probably way too religious, procedural, or aesthetically unpleasant for me. Much of the stuff that I like best is intended for either public or private schools (with some notable exceptions that are newer programs). I am not at all interested in: Rod & Staff (religion, format) Easy Grammar (method) Spalding/WRTR (format, method) Saxon (format, method) FLL (format) Nancy Larson science (format) History Odyssey (method) Elemental Science (method) Writing with Ease workbook (method) Math U See (method) MCT LA (format, method) Apologia (religion) Teaching Textbooks (format, method) A Beka (religion) BJU (religion) AOPS (method) TOG (religion) Ambleside Online (format, method) Robinson Curriculum (method - ugh) Any math textbook that doesn't have a workbook (format) Plus all of the Christian multi-subject packages like those from: MFW HOD Sonlight WP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 And then, I'd make another claim -- any publisher of material for children that produces books/curricula that require a major leap of faith that, despite the fact that it looks like a slim and meaningless volume, it actually is the most fabulous thing ever that will result in genius children, seem to be modeling their sales pitch on "The Emperor's New Clothes." And I feel distinctly uncomfortable with that approach. What you say is completely true - however I have to admit that my kids have learned the most grammar from that "slim and meaningless volume" than from anything else. Crazy but true. We just do the town level, but boy does it set out the whole thing so you can see where you're going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahM Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 um, i bought mfw k and everything i needed came to me all neatly packed in a box. didn't work for us, but that, to me, is a "boxed" curric. I don't consider it a boxed curriculum either because you need to add English/language art and math two of the most important subjects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondreeuh Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Wow, is there anything left lol! Sure, if you consider curricula that isn't marketed exclusively to Christian homeschoolers. What I like and use are a mix of PS and homeschool materials that don't take a religious bent and are nicely formatted. CAP Writing and Rhetoric Logic of English Growing with Grammar Voyages in English Moving Beyond the Page Teacher Created Resources literature and thematic unit studies Math in Focus Holt middle school math Science textbooks with supplementary videos, kits, and activities Story of the World K12 Human Odyssey Hakim's Story of US all sorts of things from Evan-Moor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasperstone Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Great thread! My list is AAS, MUS (tried it, didn't work), Rosetta Stone German (ditto), IEW, and Sonlight, and Singapore Maths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimomma Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 This might be totally irrational, but I cannot seriously consider any curriculum with a person's full name in the title. It might be the very best curriculum in the world but I just cannot do it. This applies to universities as well. Other than that, I don't rule out anything at this point. I have been pleasantly surprised too many times by things I thought would be total busts. I do avoid religious material, especially creationist, but even that can be bent if I cannot find something that works better. I am baffled by people saying that Singapore is confusing or overwhelming. We have used it from day one (on 6A now) so I have nothing to compare it to. But I cannot imagine anything more straight-forward, especially with the aid of the instructor guide (which I stopped using around 3rd grade). It is far simpler than what my friends with schooled kids are grappling with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I don't consider it a boxed curriculum either because you need to add English/language art and math two of the most important subjects. See, some people think that Easy Grammar is "boxed." :blink: It is why I don't think it's a very useful, truly descriptive term, especially since it is often used in sort of a negative or derogatory way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myeightkiddies Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I decided to edit my post. I've tried so many things over the years. Usually it was because I found it used or was given it by someone who quit homeschooling. Most of the time I would use something in addition to my main as a supplement or for further study. Because of this, I'm going to refrain from saying never. If the post was titled, Popular Curriculum...you have no desire to try again?, I'd have a full list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAutumnOak Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I have considered trying many things, or have at least looked into them...These are the popular things that I have never even considered trying because I haven't had an interest in them... Beast Academy Math U See Sonlight My Father's World Heart of Dakota K-12 I also do not like lapbooks and never considered making one... I am sure there are other things but this is all I can think of right now :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbaeimers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 *Lurker* I hope you all do not mind if I chime in. Anything Old Earth (Against the grain of this thread I know) Anything that requires a lot of extra participation from me. I like for my girls to be able to work mostly independently. Yes, I like Abeka :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwik Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I can't take anything called Bob Jones University seriously because in NZ Bob Jones is a name not associated with education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasperstone Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I can't take anything called Bob Jones University seriously because in NZ Bob Jones is a name not associated with education.Hehehehe same here in Oz. But that doesn't really bother me. I was actually very close to buying their writing/grammar, but was turned off by the expensive and parent intensive TM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyR Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Saxon-hated it as a PS student, DD hated it in private school, and it's just not the way I want math to be. Anything where religion is more important than content-especially for science and history CLE-and I have a friend who works for the company, with the possible exception of some of the life skills LUs for high school. R&S Reading books, even though DD loved them when she was about 6, because she liked the big pictures and larger fonts-but if I'd actually have had to teach using the scripted questions and worksheets and stuff like that....I think I broke out in hives just thinking about it! What is wrong with CLE? I have used both their math and LA and its excellent. My daughters scored very high on standardized tests after using it. Granted I know they are from a Mennonite publisher so I won't use the History , which I would think would have a Mennonite slant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyGF Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I find it really fun to read this thread and to see what curricula get lumped together! Since every single thing out there has been listed, it seems, it is fun to see what sort of webs exist. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyR Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Won't buy : Anything Old Earth Singapore ( we tried it and it just doesn't work for my family, totally detest it ) We didn't like Miquon ( to much trying to figure it all out) MUS Mammoth Math IEW ( tried it wanted it to work because I just can't teach writing but my girls HATED it) Shirley English ( way to darned expensive) Calvert (or anything boxed really though I don't mind using bits and pieces from curriculums) though we want nothing to do with anything Common Core anymore. We actually are rare and love to have religion in our school books. I mean, why as Christians would we not want to immerse our children into our faith? Honestly I'm a curriculum addict as well and there hasn't been much we haven't tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootyTooty Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I love these threads too, am I the only one who looks at what people do end up using to get ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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