Laura Corin Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Doctor-ordered two week regime. After that I can add the 'bad' things back in very small quantities, dependent on my symptoms. There's the rest of my life right there. Very grumpy. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Most depressing thread title ever. Sorry. I'd be grumpy too. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truscifi Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 :grouphug: I would be beyond grumpy. But maybe it will make you feel better enough to offset the grumpiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Mousie Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Good heavens. I'd be sorely tempted to have a Denial Binge and start the two-week count on Monday. Or maybe in June. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'm on day two. Yes, I went a bit crazy on Saturday before starting. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 :grouphug: I would be beyond grumpy. But maybe it will make you feel better enough to offset the grumpiness. I'm not feeling bad, but if I don't get this thing under control, I will eventually have to give up a hobby that means a lot to me. So I think it's worth it. I think. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Oh wow. No fat at all? Poor you. I agree,a most depressing thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 singing? Yeah I can't sing these days. Let me know if this works. I think I'd be willing to try it actually. I joke, but really it's pretty awful and I wish I could get rid of it. Yup. Husband can't sing anymore - he has the same issues. He's really sad about it. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Oh wow. No fat at all? Poor you. I agree,a most depressing thread. I'm allowed chicken and fish, but they have to be poached, grilled or baked with no fat. I feel as if I'm eating tons of food but I never feel full. I'm a one-woman experiment in the importance of fat for satiety. Off to bed now L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 You might have to resort to smoking weed. You know, for medical purposes....pain management and stuff... Except for the munchies...might make it worse. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It's only 2 weeks. You can do this. It will be worth it. I cannot imagine life without my music. It will be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 It's only 2 weeks. You can do this. It will be worth it. I cannot imagine life without my music. It will be worth it. You are right. I'm just worrying ahead of any evidence that I won't be able to add much back in. We'll see. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulycrabby Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Oh man, no fizzy drinks? Gosh, that's harsh. I'm doing no sugar, which is bad enough. Hang in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 That sounds terrible. I'm with Wendi, I play an instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Completely lost. What ailment requires such a stringent diet. Reading the title, I thought "gallbladder issues" but that cannot be it since we are talking about singing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn in FL Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Silent reflux. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie G Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Since I sound like an injured animal when I sing, it wouldn't be worth it for me to give up all those yummy foods. But if I COULD sing, I can see where it would be awful to NOT be able to. So sorry you have to give all this up- and I hope that after the two weeks you can add at least SOME of them back. If I had to eliminate caffeine and chocolate, my family would probably be more sad than I would be since I would be One Grumpy Woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyofsixreboot Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Well I couldn't carry a tune in a basket. This might be the first time I've been glad. Hugs to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyinTN Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I have nothing to offer, but hang in there!! :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrookValley. Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Oh, Laura! That's cruel and unusual right there. :( I hope you get things figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I had to stick to a terribly restricted diet (including extremely low fat) for about ten months to avoid having my gallbladder removed during pregnancy or right after, and it was pretty miserable. I hear you about never feeling satiated. I would eat a meal and get up feeling hungrier than before I ate. I ate more grilled boneless skinless chicken breasts and egg whites than I care to think about. I ate constantly, even waking up in the middle of the night to snack, and I was still 12 lbs below my pre pregnancy weight when I gave birth. You have my sympathy, and I hope you are able to add back in a good number of foods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadie Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well, I'm not suggesting going against your doctor's orders, but.... Our refluxers DO have trouble with conventional vegetable oils that are extracted with solvents, but none of us has trouble with traditional fats like olive oil or butter. Perhaps it's not the fat content that has given fats a bad name among GI docs, but what we've done to fat in the past 20 years. I believe that for a majority of refluxers (although not all) certain additives in processed foods are major triggers, if not the root of the issue. When you add fat back, try plain olive oil and butter first, then trial such things as palm and canola oil separately. I hope this lean period leads you to some answers that will not only be livable, but allow you to do what you love! Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rain Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I've had a similar issue. I don't know if it will make you feel better or worse, but avoiding those trigger foods (and black pepper) made a big difference. I also notice issues with peppers, onions, and tomatoes- the things that make veggie dishes tasty. :glare: I hope it works for you though. Having a beautiful voice is a wonderful gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Laurie Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm sorry. Acid reflux is no fun. I keep eating little bits of things I shouldn't eat, it's hard to give all that up. I hope you find that you can add some things back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Laura, can you eat avocados? Olives? Is it just animal fats you're avoiding? The avocados really help me feel satisfied. Maybe nuts, too. I'm sorry, but it's worth a go, isn't it? Two weeks. That's enough time to get stuck on and distracted by a good series of novels. Hope it goes quickly for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well, I'm not suggesting going against your doctor's orders, but.... Our refluxers DO have trouble with conventional vegetable oils that are extracted with solvents, but none of us has trouble with traditional fats like olive oil or butter. Perhaps it's not the fat content that has given fats a bad name among GI docs, but what we've done to fat in the past 20 years. I believe that for a majority of refluxers (although not all) certain additives in processed foods are major triggers, if not the root of the issue. When you add fat back, try plain olive oil and butter first, then trial such things as palm and canola oil separately. I hope this lean period leads you to some answers that will not only be livable, but allow you to do what you love! Amy Thanks for the advice. I don't really eat processed foods anyway, so that should be pretty easy. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Laura, can you eat avocados? Olives? Is it just animal fats you're avoiding? The avocados really help me feel satisfied. Maybe nuts, too. I'm sorry, but it's worth a go, isn't it? Two weeks. That's enough time to get stuck on and distracted by a good series of novels. Hope it goes quickly for you. Yes, it's worth a go. It's the long term management that I'm fearing. No chocolate eclairs.... I'm meant to be avoiding all fats, not just animal ones, so no olive oil to saute a chicken breast, for example. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 You might be able to do properly fermented fizzy drinks in the future. :grouphug: How are you supposed to get your fat soluble vitamins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deee Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thank heavens I can't sing, cos to me that title reads "Kill me now!" D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 You might be able to do properly fermented fizzy drinks in the future. :grouphug: How are you supposed to get your fat soluble vitamins? The fizziness itself is meant to be an issue - forcing the valve at the top of the stomach open.... For two weeks, I suspect I won't be getting my fat-soluble vitamins, but thereafter I hope to be adding a tiny bit of oil back in. Thank heavens I can't sing, cos to me that title reads "Kill me now!" D The joke is that I actually don't have a brilliant voice. I just really enjoy singing in the local unauditioned choir. Singing is a great physical and mental release, and the social side is good for me too. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 :grouphug: You can do this! Personally, the no-fat thing would have me worried, for satiety reasons. Otherwise, I must be the most boring eater on the planet, but the other items wouldn't bother me the slightest. I wish we could trade places, I would follow your diet, you could teach my kids English, that would be a happy trade :D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alef Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yes, it's worth a go. It's the long term management that I'm fearing. No chocolate eclairs.... I'm meant to be avoiding all fats, not just animal ones, so no olive oil to saute a chicken breast, for example. L I've been suffering from chocolate eclair withdrawal ever since I left France more than twenty years ago. I'm afraid that craving can never be overcome :( The things they call eclairs in most of the US are nothing like what they make in France...I'm assuming that in th UK you can get the real thing. I hope the trial period goes by quickly and you find that most things can be added back in without trouble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alef Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Dp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I was just wondering how it was going? Are you surviving? :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Me too. How are you doing, Laura? :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeacherZee Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 That sounds like misery. Hope it is helping at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 I was just wondering how it was going? Are you surviving? :grouphug: It's not too bad now. I'm drinking a lot more (skimmed) milk than I normally do, and I eat four meals a day, but it's doable. I did slip once - we spent 8 1/2 hours at Ikea yesterday, and although I managed to have a nice undressed salad for lunch, by 6.30 the only available food was sandwiches and hotdogs. I had a chicken caesar wrap - not ideal, but the best we could manage to allow us to get through the 90 minute drive home. I think my symptoms have completely gone, but I'm not counting my chickens. Thanks for asking L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Thanks for the update, Laura -- I'm glad it seems to be working so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 That's not a bad slip at all. It took us 4 all day trips to ikea to plan our kitchen. I'm glad you are feeling better because than it will have been worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Well, I'm not suggesting going against your doctor's orders, but.... Our refluxers DO have trouble with conventional vegetable oils that are extracted with solvents, but none of us has trouble with traditional fats like olive oil or butter. Perhaps it's not the fat content that has given fats a bad name among GI docs, but what we've done to fat in the past 20 years. I believe that for a majority of refluxers (although not all) certain additives in processed foods are major triggers, if not the root of the issue. When you add fat back, try plain olive oil and butter first, then trial such things as palm and canola oil separately. I hope this lean period leads you to some answers that will not only be livable, but allow you to do what you love! Amy Yup, same here. I can have some butter/olive oil, etc, but not deep fried food. Also, wheat gives me more reflus than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hang in there; it is possible to get through this and go on to enjoy the benefits. I had to endure the diet a few years ago minus the caffeine and was able to add a number of things back into my diet; for me it was and still is well worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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